InSiminator Mod for Sims3

[Ghostie]

I think EAxis are going to have to realise that there are many adults that play the Sims, & if they don't do it straight away they may create an "adult" version of Sims 3, but given the puritanism of Americans, it'll be as adult as a wet blanket !

[VampyrMuffinMan]

I think EAxis are going to have to realise that there are many adults that play the Sims, & if they don't do it straight away they may create an "adult" version of Sims 3, but given the puritanism of Americans, it'll be as adult as a wet blanket !

You would think that the marketing execs would get it that violence and sex sell...  There's not much in the way of violence in the game (though that would be highly cool...), there has to be sex for the game to really sell [to adults].  Now, these aren't the only things, but they are a large part of why games sell.  On that note, I don't think it would be plausible to create an adult version, but they could certainly add some more adult clothing and interactions in an expansion.  I'm still waiting to here for sure if there will be same sex relations possible in Sims 3.  If not, then I will not buy it until that's hacked.  Damn.  Now I have the idea of my Sims going on dungeon craws stuck in my head...

[MaryH]

In all reality, EA has to be aware of the ratings that the game must have in order to sell it to the 12's. The teen rating is the one they always aim for, but I've read where some more "clued-in" people think that it will not have any sex besides that of sanctioned EA sex-"woohoo", which is pretty dull, and it won't be moddable for anything beyond that.
It's quite probable that the execs at EA found those other mods that are available for Sims 2 to be offensive and they're locking the modding down to prevent it.
Of course they're cutting their own throats in doing so-because as you mentioned, sex sells.
Jack Thompson did a number on EA, and they don't forget that. The fact that he's no longer a power to contend with doesn't matter. The damage has already been done.

[Feisty32]

MaryH i could've said it better myself nicely said.

[friendlyquark]

Okay, my brother works for Activision and we have talked about the hell that is getting the ratings board to approve your game. After the Coffee Cup mod problem in GTA, it got even tighter and more problematic. He has informed me that almost no game can get through the approval process the first time and it is a process that can take weeks. Also, remember that the game will be sold internationally and what might fly in France will not cut it in Dubai. I do not expect any kind of sex in Sims, I even prefer that it not have that, so that when the four year old walks in I don't have to explain the Kama Sutra to her. LOL  I have mods for that which I can turn on and off so that I don't get in trouble with her mother. Sims is meant to be a Teen rated game which means more players and more profits for EA. I am not complaining about that at all. I just want my modding community to be able to give me options for adult play if I feel like it. EA is so NOT my porn provider, they wouldn't do it well anyway! ROFL!

[Hanomaru]

The fact that he's no longer a power to contend with doesn't matter.

The fact that he was ever a power to contend with would be funny if it weren't depressing. I could go on my American Culture rant, but it's three pages long.

...what might fly in France will not cut it in Dubai.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it had been banned here and there for allowing homosexuality.

[jellystar]

   OOO    I hope your wrong  kaoz666 "sobs"

[Casual Dude]

Just to comment on page 1, It doesnt matter if CC is a no-no, its going to be hacked to allow it anyway.

[jerryking]

No inteen or a similar type insimenenator then no Sims 3 for me.

[roerzman]

I have my own theories on all this adult content stuff. This is going to open a can of worms but here goes.
Those that can still remember the heady days of the late 60s and early 70s when anything goes in the cinemas was the norm will also recall another phenomena, women's lib, that matured into the feminist movement and really became a force to be reckoned with so much so that governments began to bend to their demands, eg. beauty pageant's, miss world miss universe etc were all deemed to be degrading and exploited women and so on. In the mid to late 70s a lot of these same women began to get elected into various governments, coincidentally at about this time the movies began to regress as far as sex as nudity went. Mind you this is only my theory, what actually started this was my awareness of certain Japanese games in which anything goes and that in Japan women play a largely subservient role, and there are very few women in government and those that are, are only there to show the rest of the world that they are not really sexist.
As I said this is only my theory and is in no way meant to put women down but is food for thought.

[elsmallo]

hmmm, roerzman, I'm wondering exactly what your theory is?
 
That now the 60s feminists are in government we therefore have a more sexually judgemental society? Whereas, in Japan, where the men are in charge, perversity runs wild?

Well, I can't speak for Japan. But as for what we'd have to call 'the West', I think there's more to it.

Firstly, I'd question the amount of control that governments wield in regard to societal atitudes towards sex and its representation in movies and videogames. Then I'd ask how many of the female politicians we have cracking the whip today actually are genuine feminists, or indeed whether any of them are the same sorts of feminist. There are feminists today who believe that the 'free love' of the 60s etc. was a regressive entrapment of women, and then there are those who make feminist porn. I'd also question whether there is less sex and nudity in popular culture today - quite the opposite I suspect. Certainly as far as taboos go I wonder how many are yet to be broken in one cultural strand or another.

I suppose I'd venture the (hardly groundbreaking) conclusion that cycles in societal attitudes towards anything are inevitable and generational reaction a norm. People harp on about political correctness but I wonder whether any society has freed its citizens from the need to conform and whether current societies put any more pressure on people than previous ones. I do think that we've reached a fairly libertarian stage where what people actually say about things doesn't match what they do behind closed doors - not that this is always a bad thing. And that there were probably enthusiastic and reluctant women participants in the 'free love' movement just as there were doubtless benign and exploitative men.

And regarding CC in the sims 3???!!!!!

Well, frankly, I'll be p**ed if there isn't any. The minute I discovered insimenator for Sims 2 I was getting up to all sorts of mischief. The prospect of doing it again with even smoother polygons?? Please let it happen!

[roerzman]

This political correctness and currant social attitudes is a minority desire on how society should conduct itself, gone are the days of mass protest as in the anti Vietnam war movement for social or political change, we now have a more covert way of imposing change and it's done by individuals getting elected to office with a less than transparent agenda.
This desires to impose their values on the rest of society soon comes to light when for example in the event of a bill getting voted on, the trade offs begin. It's the old you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours scenario.
The danger begins when the minority has the ways and means to impose their values on how the rest of society should conduct on the majority. All this is possible by being in a position to influence the elected governments.
History gives a clear lesson there with the rise to power of Hitler, something he would never have achieved if ALL his policies were on the table so to speak. Just how many Germans would have voted for that man if he had told them that once in power "I'm going to kill your children if they're not perfect and also any one with Jewish or Slavic ancestry" ?
Imagine the ramifications of Jack Thompson being elected to office. Well there a lot of Jack Thompsons in governments in the English speaking world both male and female, they got there because they were smart enough to keep their mouths shut and are now able because of the political systems to impose their values.
I don't have a crystal ball so I can only assume that some of the women that were involved in the noble and just women's rights campaigns of previous decades have taken it one step further and are now in a position to impose their outlook on so called female exploitation on the main stream of society, for example this hogwash of not having a chairman anymore just a chair and all the other gender specific titles that have disappeared are just examples of an individuals desire very quietly becoming law.
My theory is that the majority does not and never has ruled, it has always has been the silent minority that call the shots. That is why in the media and games you will always have what they deem appropriate and not what you think is.
Also governments can whip up the population if it so chooses for social change, this was apparent during the civil rights campaigns of the early 60s. Those that still think it was all about some sense of justice or righting a wrong should exercise some lateral thinking. At that time Cuba, China and other Soviet clients were making big diplomatic inroads into Africa and the poor old US. diplomats were promptly shown the door when they tried the same, it's not as if the dismal racist policies of the US. and southern  states were a secret. Because of the political support system that exists in government laws to end the appalling racisism that existed did not have a hope in hell of passing, so in order to make US. policy more palatable a social uprising had to be engineered and supported to make it appear to the world and southern states and their elected representatives that it was society and not the government that wanted change and as it grew just about anyone who was anybody jumped on that bandwagon.Ironic how just a few decades earlier Elanor Roosevelt attempted to influence her husband to outlaw lynchings. (no cold war then)
And yes governments if they want the support of a minority can engineer social thinking, now days it's done via the mass media, not masses on the streets.
 

[ancienthighway]

If I'm reading this right, white heterosexual men have never repressed the rights of any minority based on race creed, color, religion, sex, etc.  I only imagined the discrimination I received because I was in a mixed marriage, and my children have never experienced it either because they weren't pure.

Thank you for setting the record straight.

[Ali]

OK, this stops right now

quite how this turned from "will there be an insimenator mod for sims 3" to political bullshit, I don't know but no more. You want to discuss politics that's fine but go and do it in the General Discussion area and keep it friendly and flame free

[whoaitzdomi]

how come there won't be a insimenator for the sims 3?