Can you play without cheats?

[caffeinated.joy]

Nope. I can't live without cheats. Even before I started getting serious with picture taking and storytelling I coudn't. I love my cheats. Love. Them.

[coliss]

I voted "no", though I do not play with cheat codes like "motherlode", or "maxmotives". It's more fun and challenging without them. I also have a few hacks to get rid of certain annoyances.

[vanessa]

No-no-no!

[Sleepycat]

I could play without cheats and hacks but why would I want to? it certainly wouldn't be as much fun. With hacks my game is tricked out for me and how I like to play.

[BlackKat13]

Yes.  In fact, the only cheats I *ever* use are to build (The 45 degree angle one and stuff)

I never use cheats for money, or to max my sims skills or aspiration...

In fact, I cannot play *with* cheats, because I just get soooo bored

[hotrod50s]

lol nooooooo i cheat all the time i don't use very many money cheats of any kind it is easy enough to get money but the insim has so many cool things to play with and squinges mods and inteen i mean i just did a reinstall and added my can't live without cheats in 1st lol.

now i'm working on getting the skins back in i downloaded one hack too many and caused 149 conflicts since i couldn't trace it down i did the reinstall and fixed a bunch of problems i was having.

in a couple of weeks i will have to go thru it all again when pets come out lol.

even with a fresh install and no hacks i will still cheat

[freeasabird]

No, I use a lot of Awesome hacks and fixs' :devill:

No money cheats and no increasing skills, friends etc.

[Sleepycat]

What some people don't understand is:

1, not all hacks are cheats
2, not all cheat codes are actually cheats
3, not all hacks/cheats make the game easier


Some hacks fix maxis bugs.

Some hacks just change how something is done and may actually make the game harder.

Some hacks just get rid of annoying stuff.

Some hacks add to the game like a mini EP (like InTeen by jase or twojeffs Auto Casual Romance)

Some cheats like moveobjects , snap to grid, Wall Placement Restrictions Removed, Plumbbobtoggle and allow45DegreeAngleOfRotation etc... certainly are "cheat codes" but aren't cheats. They are just for building and decorating and stuff.


I dislike when people turn their nose up at all hacks and cheats just because they want to think they are better then people who do use them. Yes, I have come across numerous people who are like that....

If I said I use the familyfunds cheat, most people would assume I use it to "cheat" and give my sims lots of money, when actually it's the opposite, I usually use it to take money away from them. (I'll also use InSIMs budget adjuster but it depends on how much I'm removing)

When I do give my sims money (for maybe that new house or just basic furniture for the new empty house) I always take money from them once they start having "extra cash hanging around" untill the initial "loan" is paid back. Although sometimes if their parents have way to much cash, I perfer to think the parents bought the house for them and take the money from the parents.

So anyway, my point is (yes I do have one lol) using cheats/hacks dosen't mean your cheating or making your game easier or boring, sometimes they just make it different.

/gets off soapbox

[ancienthighway]

Excellent post SleepyCat.  When I said I don't use cheats early in the thread, I took "cheats" to mean things like "motive decay off", "aging off", gimme-the-world-on-a-silver-plater type cheats.
 
While I don't use  those types of cheats, I will readily admit my game is has plenty of mods.  InSim, InTeen, harder jobs (MATY), and NPC careers (that just take up ads in the paper to make it even harder to get the job you want) are just some of the mods I have.  "What's this?"  "Miss this?"  Come on Maxis!  Let the adult sims grow up!

[vita4all]

Well said, Sleepycat!

[Sleepycat]

*blushes*

[ancienthighway]

Good thing you told us you're blushing Sleepycat.  Hard to tell on a black cat.

[Sleepycat]

*dies laughing*

[Foxybaby]

I don't really use many hacks or cheats-I could certainly play without any at all. I never use the money cheat as it just makes the game boring-I like to work my sims up from just about nothing. The only one's that I would go crazy without is InTeen & Squinge's maternity hack (God I love Jase & Squinge-my hero's!:notworth:), and move objects (if you're classing that as an actual cheat). In fact, the only hacks I have in my game are InTeen, breast feeding, and the maternity wear hack. Things that would enhance it rather than "cheat" :blah:

[weetzie]

Usually, I'll use a Motherlode cheat if I have a toddler in the family, just so that I can move them into a decent starter house and still afford the crib and such. After I get the crib and low-end furniture (1 couch, 1 bed, counters, fridge, trash can, oven, bookshelf and phone), I spend the rest of the money on floors and walls and usually get it back to however much was left.

Other than that, the only cheat I use is the No Empty Potty hack for the training pot, simply because I've had too many times where the kid pees himself while someone ambles over to empty it out. The Maid never touches the thing in my game.