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RaynePoodle:
My game is still crashing... even after I took the now outdated insim out... what was that debug code again? And how do I use it?

ancienthighway:
Besides removing the old Insim as you have you should try removing ALL hacks and CC.  The easiest way is to move your Downloads folder to the desktop.

Then confirm your game is working.

Create a Downloads folder in My Documents/EA Games/The Sims 2.

If you Downloads are organized with subfolders, copy subfolders back one at a time and try the game again. And continue this until your game doesn't work.  The problem will be in that last folder you added.

If you Downloads wasn't organized, Run CleanInstaller and browse to the Desktop/Downloads folder to scan it.  We'll add some organization :grin:

After the scan is complete, sort on Type.  

NOTE:  Leave any file highlighted in RED in the Downloads folder.  We will address those later.

The first thing we'll do is move your Meshes.  This won't have a type, and usually have Mesh somewhere in the name.  You can click on the first to highlight it, then scroll down to the last in the group and shift-click to highlight them all.  Then right click and select "Move to New" to create a folder called Meshes.  Once you create that folder, all the mesh files highlighted will be located in that folder.  After you've got all that you can find, you can try the game again.  It should run without problems though because a mesh by itself isn't picked up by the game.

Then Highlight all content such as Makeup, clothing, genetics.  
Right click in the highlighted area and chose "Move to New" to create a new folder under Downloads called "Bodyshop".  If you need to move more to Bodyshop, it should be under Downloads now, no need to create another new folder.  Do this until all of your bodyshop type CC is in that folder.  

NOTE:  Some hacks are listed as clothing, game objects, and careers in Clean Installer.  If you see any, don't copy those into a subfolder.

Test your game.

Do the same thing for Walls, Floors, and Terrain Paint using a folder called "Build"

Test your game.

All the recolors you can put into a folder called "Recolors"

Test your game.

Now do the same for game objects into a folder called "Buy" and yes, test it again.

This should leave you with files that don't have a type, careers and some hacks that you've identified that did have a type.  Scan through the list to pick up any meshes you may have missed before.  As you're looking you see some filenames that may indicate what they are and you can place them correctly.  Many accessories, earrings and necklaces in particular aren't typed.  Click on those, and if you identify what it is with a picture you can move it to the right folder.

What you have now is basically mods/hacks.  This is where you will most likely find your problem.

All of the file highlighted in red are mods/hacks to global behavior of the game.  You need to decide if you want to keep those or not.  If you do, check with the source/creator to see if they are compatible with Pets (my assumption is you have Pets, because this is in Pets Help :) )

If it's not compatible right click and remove it or disable it.

Now move 1/2 of the files showing in Clean Installer to the Downloads folder.  I like to create a folder called Test until I know if the hack works or if I want to keep it.

Test your game.  If it works those files are good.  Create another folder called good and move them into it.

Now move 1/2 of the remaining files in Clean Installer to Test.  Same thing.  If the game works those are good.

Continue this until the game doesn't work.  The bad file is in there.  Move them back out of the game to a folder called Bad.

Move the rest of the files from Desktop/Downloads to Test and try them.  Move them to good or bad as appropriate after your test.

Then depending on how many hacks are in the bad folder you can move them one at a time, or 1/2 at a time and check out the game.

Hope this helps.

XPTL297:
If nothing helps, check your system capacity and see if it meets the requirements to run TS2, if yes, test if it has capacity to support all the downloads you have. Don't forget to run Hack Conflict Detect regularly. It can detect even some repeated bhavs even if they are having the same modifications. After you make changes like placing hacks or deleting them, depending if they are global you will need sometimes to restart - the computer - no hot start, but complete shut down.

RaynePoodle:
OMG.... that first option is going to take more time than I have right now :(

And I know my computer can handle TS2... that's what is was made for. I don't know how to test it to see if it can support all the downloads though. And I have never heard of Hack Conflict Detect before...

I have ton of error logs... I just found them... and I have no idea what the heck they mean... would they help you? Or just tell me what log(s) you want and I'll get them to you.

What does a mesh, highlighted in pink mean??? And what are the files that are just numbers and letters... and really long??? What about empty packages(3 of 4 are pink), careers, collections and the things that don't say anything? Or did I read over that part and not realize it?

Sorry if I am an idiot... I am trying to learn something here... wouldn't my mom love this...LOL... she always comes to me to help her fix her game, and now I need help LOL

It will take awhile to test my game, because I usually have to play for about a bit before it goes wonky on me... the first time. I'll test it in a few minutes, and let you know...

ancienthighway:
Quote from: RaynePoodle

OMG.... that first option is going to take more time than I have right now :(


It really doesn't take that long.  The first step of moving your Downloads folder out, then adding your meshes and bodyshop back in will have you playing without error right away.  I assumed you have NL, which allows you to have subfolders under Downloads.  What EPs and SPs do you have?

Quote from: RaynePoodle

And I know my computer can handle TS2... that's what is was made for. I don't know how to test it to see if it can support all the downloads though. And I have never heard of Hack Conflict Detect before...


The Hack Conflict Detection Utility in Paladin's Program section may be a good thing to pick up.  I didn't suggest it before because it sounded like you game was working prior to pets.  If you have a lot of error logs, that's not the case :lol:

Get it, run it, then post the results here.  We can speed up finding bad hacks with it.

Quote from: RaynePoodle

What does a mesh, highlighted in pink mean??? And what are the files that are just numbers and letters... and really long??? What about empty packages(3 of 4 are pink), careers, collections and the things that don't say anything? Or did I read over that part and not realize it?


Files highlighted in pink are duplicates.  You can delete them and empty packages.  You read over the part I talked about career and things that don't say anything.  But I did forget collections.  Move those to My Documents/EA Games/The Sims 2/Collections.  


In short
1.  Get HCDU and post results
2.  Start moving bodyshop CC back into the game.  You can probably move walls/floors/terrain paint and recolors in without problems too.  Same with collections.

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