Paysite Discussion Thread
Tenshii~Akari:
Quote from: mountainman31us;821689
Isn't it a known fact, or somewhat, that beosboxboy is "pro-paysite" ? Could this be why he's arguing,or it seems to me at least, against Nouk? I see it as it reads, as soon as Sims 2 loads up whatever the hell you made, it becomes more or less property of EA.
He's already stated his position... ;)
And I was about to input my sentiments on the previous comments, but it seems Paden has beat me to it. Couldn't have put it any better myself! :angel:
Inge Jones:
Quote from: mountainman31us;821689
Isn't it a known fact, or somewhat, that beosboxboy is "pro-paysite" ? Could this be why he's arguing,or it seems to me at least, against Nouk? I see it as it reads, as soon as Sims 2 loads up whatever the hell you made, it becomes more or less property of EA.
Of course, EA have yet to test their EULA in a court of law. It could turn out they would lose if they tried to claim copyright on someone else's work. Maybe they suspect that would be the case which is why they have not tried to enforce it. The EULA may be "empty words" written simply to encourage us to share freely.
vanessa:
How can you think Beos is pro paysites when he gives his creations here,for free?
vanessa:
Nouk,I'm not trying to disrespect you,I like your creations,but I understand Beos.I'm playing Sims to escape too,everything is beautyfull and funny in my game.Sometimes I'm reading treads about torturing and killing sims(yes,I know it's a game) and I don't realy want to put those pictures into my brain,so I've learned to avoid those treads.Regarding the pay sites - I couldn't care less,I'm never buying anything only because I 'm not using my visa card on Internet.Some days ago,I found some sim furnitures on a site and I wanted them badly,but I restrained myself.(just say NO,LOL)
I don't think EA will take action against paysites,we have TSR,a huge PR resource for EA games,I'm sure they'll never take action against them.
PegasusDiana:
I've really been pondering and thinking about this and should EA decide to do something paysite's have my sympathy. I don't agree with what they are doing. But, I also don't want to see any harm come to them. Should EA decide to do something, there won't be any cease orders like they are thinking EA has to give them, why? Because it isn't a violation of copyright, it is a violation of contract. A contract we agree too. A very legal contract, that has been tested in court. Not with EA but many other companies and they have won. It is our John Hancock we put on the dotted line when we click on agree, which is also why there is an I disagree button. Paysites could be faced with millions in fines and penalties. Copyright have set fines, violation fees. With contracts it is up to the company to set the amount they feel are their losses caused by paysites. Who knows how much EA can say they lost with 20 million players around the world. I don't want to see that happen to anyone. It's not worth the... "I was right and you were wrong." to do that to anyone, or to wish for EA to do it to them.
PS I've said this over and over, but I'm going to say it again. Ignorance of a contract you agree to is 0 grounds for a defense in a court of law. This too has been tried over and over. The moral of the story is, if you don't agree to the terms of a contract. You don't agree to abide by them. You click on I disagree and take the game, movie, etc...back to the store. Even if the store won't refund your money, the company has too, it's the law.
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