Paysite Discussion Thread
miros1:
I don't see anyone with a physical or metaphysical gun to your head forcing you to download anything, pay or free!
How does the existence of pay content harm you? What do you feel you need "protection" from? Would you like to assume the hosting cost for your favorite pay sites so they could become free sites?
kathy:
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ok, i try again. As to the topic. I do not create sims2 content, i use 3d-programs for other reasons. I am a customer of EA, and the only protection i can get is via their EULA. That's why so many people stick to the EULA arguments, cause that's the only protection they have.
It's not a guestion of money to me. It's a question whether it's right or wrong to claim money for CC - when stated clearly in the EULA that filesharing are ok, sale of CC is not. Nouk has given a good example - her response from EA should be valid enough. That was an answer from EA support on usermade tools. There is 1 EULA for bodyshop, 1 for homecrafter, and 1 when you install the game. Click, accept and agree.
Reverse engineering is also mentioned in the EULA for bodyshop, i understand this is fully legal for own use, and filesharing, but not for sale.
PS or ETA: Kathy, hope you're in a better mood, i like your avi, i love Inseminator, i am addicted to that toy, and i have fun in the adult-section when i first am there. I am very thankful to the guys who created Inseminator. Straight from my heart that is!
I always thanks the artist of free content, don't clutter anyones guestbooks, are polite and kind.
I can of course only speak for myself, as a downloader of your CC. I rather prefer freesites, in my location or elsewhere in this big world. Free-sites are more polite, and very helpful. I also think they have great content. When someone claim donation from me to unlock a file, so i can download it, it's not a donation, it's sale. I am a bit surprised that creators of skins and other CC support paysites when they create for free themself? Could anyone enlighten me?
Yeah I am.. sorry about earlier.. woke up cranky lol.
Thats the thing we don't know what EA thinks. They aren't coming out one way or another. If they think paysites are acceptable I just wish they would say so already. This thing, the entire paysite/freesite debate has put off a lot of creators, both of free and pay content because of this attitude that people have. That they are entitled to content. We pay for the game, we aren't given an agreement by EA that says you will be given cc made by the community. People tend to forget this and then get all snotty and leave hateful messages as which was done to Solander and Kate.
Whether we like paysites they do serve as a lesson for the community in a sense that you have two choices, pay or don't pay. If you aren't paying for content you really have no right to bitch at these creators or place demands on them. You should treat those people with respect, at a minimum the same amount of respect you would want to be treated with but too often than not we are seeing an increasing problem of the very opposite happening.
When people message me to bitch because the very day an expansion pack is released that the insim isn't updated is a clear sign that people need to check themselves at the door. I try very hard to treat everyone, regardless of who they are, with respect but more and more I am personally feeling hostile and feel like washing my hands of the entire thing.
All of this bickering between sites is getting very frustrating. Especially since none of us have any clue as to which way EA is going to lean, if they ever lean. If they announced tomorrow that paysites were illegal then the anti-paysite side would win so to speak and this thread would be closed as it would be moot.. especially seeing as we aren't allowed to have warez discussions per our server companies TOS. But if they rule on the other side, and say that paysites are well within their rights to charge for content then what? Whether any of us like it or not they would be within their own rights and you would have to live with it or continue sharing content thru other means as is already being done.
Either way until they say something we can debate this all day and nothing will be done.
Also.. please, regardless of someones opinion lets keep this toned down. I don't want to close this thread and I hate banning people. We all have the right to our own opinion, regardless of what it is. As long as people can act like mature adults this thread can remain open. That or I will make my 10 yr old an admin and she isn't as nice as I am. :D
Chairman Greg:
Yeah, what everybody said. :angel:
Now, getting back to the question that Kathy posed in the first message in this topic: So, who has the good stuff? :D
I know there's lots of great stuff among the multitude at The Sims Resource and Peggy Sims redefines the word "awesome," but who has some other favorite sites that makes things worthy of my increasingly limited simmish mad money?
miros1:
Personally, I like the stuff in the Wooden Simolean section at SunSims... but that's a shameless, self-serving plug!
Ok... how about Simsational Sandy at SunSims?
BTW, Greg's my webhost. Otherwise, I'd be running a half-baked paysite.
SolidGoldFunk:
I love 4Eversimfantasy, Aroundthesims2, and Raonjena for Raonsims.
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