Paysite Discussion Thread
Tomkat:
Ive been trying to get into the *ahem*booty*cough* but I keep getting "this page cannot be displayed".
Is anyone else having trouble there?
miros1:
Quote from: Chairman Greg;841871
B'b'but... The Wooden Simolean and Simsational Sandy (which are now sections of Sun Sims) don't count as "pay" sites unless you're watching an old movie. :lol:
(I did put a PayPal begging button on Sun Sims, so in the parlance used on the Ultimate Sims List it would be a "Free*" site, like Insimenator. The * means that there's a begging button but there's no charge for any of the downloads.)
How else was I supposed to get my shameless, self-serving plug in there, silly man?
PegasusDiana:
Quote from: Tomkat;843871
Ive been trying to get into the *ahem*booty*cough* but I keep getting "this page cannot be displayed".
Is anyone else having trouble there?
I never realized it was so easy to find all I typed in google was booty sims 2 and it's the first link. Jeez I was thinking I'd at least have to search for it a little. I can never remember the link to it and I know I have it saved in my favs along with a million other Sims 2 websites, which is why I can't find anything. I want some paysite owner to really irk me off so I can really go in there and raid that link and not feel guilty about doing it. That's what I get for being Catholic everything that's fun is bad. lol
Anyway I clicked on the link and went straight in.
Oh and PS it has NOTHING to do with weather I think a paysite is wrong or right. I personally believe they are wrong. Theives stealing from young children since the majority of players are teenagers, and EA. That karma will come back around to them. It's about respect to me which no one seems to understand. Respect of another human being. Two wrongs have never made a right to me. If it is about paying for a website, there are always alternatives. If it's about getting you something "YOU" want or supporting your family, get a job. How is it they can photoskin a designers clothing totally disrespecting their trademarks/copyrights, yet expect others to respect theirs? Steal things from these free Poser sites that share freely with the community and then sell their things, steal from these cad places that offer object files for free to the community. Use tools developed and shared freely in the community. How many of them have offered a dime to help support SimPe? Oh but they'll sit like vultures at the website waiting for the updates. Then sit and pound their chest about their rights. Blah, blah, blah and on and on.
SolidGoldFunk:
To PegasusDiana, you make a very good point, but like you said, the tools are out there and they're free so if people want to use them they can but they choose not to. I'm not going to say that meshing and recoloring is easy because it's not. I just tried it and I found it very difficult. I thought it would be easy because like you said, most people just take pictures of clothes and paste them on there. I had no idea until I read this tutorial on here. I thought it was all hand made... (with the mouse that is). The outfit that I did is "handmade" but that's because of the point you bring up that all these people are doing is stealing from designers and whatnot. I think people should be paid for their work because after trying it myself... I didn't even start with meshing yet... it was kind of difficult... I think time consuming would be a better word. I think if these people take the time to do the work then maybe they should get paid for it. I do however disagree with some of the policies but that's another story.
I would love to give TSR a HUGE piece of my mind!!! Someone else said it, that if people are going to charge for their creations then they should be as close to perfect as humanly possible.
But most of what you said is VERY TRUE!! I have to agree but disagree at the same time. You put your statement so well! I would have never thought about them stealing from designers if I hadn't read that tutorial on photoskinning. By the way, that was a great tutorial:)
djslippyman:
Again people who are against paysites are not against donating to sites that offer good CC. As said before it would be great if you could "try before you buy". You can't do that with a paysite (unless you get content from lots, sims, peer to peer, pmdb).
Basically the ideal utopia would be freesites that get the proper donations and support to keep going. Where if you want a few items you don't have to run off to paypal first to try them out. Where freesites can receive funds if fans want to donate them.
SGF it seems you seem ok with paysites, taking and giving money to creators basically. That is your choice but its rather silly when there's so much great free content available. We all know its time consuming, we all know there are bandwidth costs, but does that justify it especially if lots of people say its wrong (EA Games, MTS2, PMBD) and the quality can often be poor? I'd rather that great sites be freesites and that people donate to them accordingly.
I'd urge paysites and freesites to start taking advantage of free download hosting (sendspace, mediafire) and grouping their downloads. Its a great way to allow free bandwidth and yet not pay for the costs. Hundreds of music blogs use this method for hosting music files (50mb-100mb) and Sim sites doing this would be legal and likely last longer. Taking the bandwidth costs out of the equation would simplify the problem. Then it simply becomes should a creator accept payment for time spent. I'd say definitely not but if they want to accept donations then other who say they do can repay them if they CHOOSE.
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