Paysite Discussion Thread
Marhis:
Of course the EULA is for protecting EA rights, not users', who ever has discussed this point?
Who cares about EA rights? I care about my rights, that are not being mocked and conned.
And of course a site needs money. If I can't afford having a site, I will not.
Or, I will search for an income that allows me to run that site. I can sell something. Fine: now I have a business; smaller as you want, but still a business.
I make a choice.
Now I have to make another choice: selling stuff I can prove I own, with all the annoyances pertaining a business, or go naive and be ready to face the resulting consequences.
The point is that I have to make a choice.
Another point is that noone is forced to have a personal site for sharing their creations; anyone can upload their creations on the Exchange for free. It sucks, I know, but it's completely free.
The money I need for sharing my creations are for having more fun making a site that I like the most, for having a better service on files, for having a personal forum for my friends, without annoying ads and popups... in a nutshell, I do not need any money at all for sharing my stuff.
Again, I have to make a choice.
This "pirate" movement is mostly against people who want every pro (and no cons) without having to make choices, who never do anything to protect their possible rights in the proper way and toward the proper antagonist, and who prefer instead the easiest way to cheat (only a bit, so it can't be bad, right?) on the other community members, and eventually blame those who get aware and complain about.
This choice was easy to take, yeah: the first and only one.
And yes, of course the good ol' days, when all were friends and all those square pegs in round holes shut up and stay hidden in their basements, were oh so good and funny.
Right, shut up, hide the rubbish under the carpet: this will be a problem only for that stupid who will dare to lift the carpet and revealing the mess; who cares how that mess were generated, and how much rotten is now?
Ostrichs should be the merriest living forms in the world.
Dr_Pixel:
The reason I mentioned about the EULA is because the pirate movement uses that as it's basic argument against paysites.
You're right, from our end this is all about choices.
My main complaint against the pirates is that they wish to remove choices from us if they don't approve of those choices.
I choose to let Maxis worry about their EULA and any violations of it, they have a well paid legal team and they certainly don't need my help, nor anyone elses.
I choose to respect the time and effort that someone has put into their creations, whatever their reason for doing it, whether or not I like the end result, and whether or not I approve of they way they want to distribute it.
If they don't want me to have it without paying, then I won't have it.
I myself choose not to pay to download Sims items - but other people are capable to decide for themselves if they do wish to pay for something and who they want to donate to, they don't need me or anyone else to decide for them.
kathy:
I am completely bored with all this paysite drama now. I don't pay for it and won't pay for it however this has gotten completely out of hand. Someone, Dr Pixel I believe, pointed out that anyone who has modified the game has broken the EULA and this is true. So in short all sites, free and pay, are screwed. As much as I love or loved this community the last 6 months or so has caused nothing but grief for many people and have caused them to say to hell with this community and for what? Because someone has a pay file? Boo-freaking-hoo. I support free sites, I always have and always will but with this crusade continuing as it is we are pushing a disrespect for all creators, whether they be for free or for pay, and it has become sickening.
shirokuma:
If someone is willing to pack up and leave because people support pay sites then they obviously weren't involved with the community for the right reasons. Pay sites have been allowed since the sims 1 days. They won't just go away. People seem to think the the world is wrong just because people don't agree with them. It's usually my way or the highway and that's the problem.
Tenshii~Akari:
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If someone is willing to pack up and leave because people support pay sites then they obviously weren't involved with the community for the right reasons. Pay sites have been allowed since the sims 1 days. They won't just go away. People seem to think the the world is wrong just because people don't agree with them. It's usually my way or the highway and that's the problem.
Very well said! I was just thinking this a few minutes ago, then saw your post. ;)
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This is the way I think of it: For some, being against paysites is just a natural reaction. It's always been human nature to be highly critical of something we'd have to give money in order to receive.
Like I said above in my post, those were some of my original reasons. As of right now, (Like kathy) I no longer care as much and still won't pay for CC. Sites can disappear if they want to, but I sure won't cry about it any longer. (Besides, my laptop is doing enough of that for me. It has its share of downloads to the point the game just breaks a random file and will not open...) I could reiterate this all day: It's just a game. I have more important things to worry about now days, instead of having to worry about not being able to get content from someone who doesn't want me to have it in the first place. Sometimes, I wish others would follow suit, but that's up to them, not me. :icon9:
By stating that, though, it doesn't mean I agree with the censoring of the situation. It may be talking in circles to many, but closing the topic doesn't really give everyone that wants to state something the chance to participate or ask questions. There are still a lot of people coming into the community just as clueless as ever about this whole conflict on "free vs. pay." I know if someone were like me, they'd want to know what's up and choose what they want to avoid. ;)
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