Androgynous The Clothing Line Help
cmo2005:
Firstly i would like to say how thrilled i have become at the wonderful feedback i have gotten from this idea and i hope to make it a reality as soon as i can. I would all so like to touch on an issue that was brought to my attention today. Apparently i have been "sterotyping" to elaborate further here is the notice i recieved via Personal message from our friends at The sim Resource.com
I have temporarily removed the above thread from our forums. You are welcome to repost, ideally in the skinning forum subject to a couple of amendments.
While we at TSR understand your desire to have more alternatives for your sims, the wording of your request implies that you believe that only lesbian sims would want to dress in that type of clothing, and since The Sims 2 is a "life simulator", one could plausibly infer from that statement that you believe that lesbian women out in real life are the only ones who would want to dress in androgynous clothing. Labelling a type of clothing as "lesbian clothing" or "African-American clothing" or "gay clothing" stereotypes the people of that group. Not all lesbians wear that kind of clothing and, by the same token, there are many straight women out there who prefer to dress in androgynous clothing. The fact that you would like androgynous clothing for your female sims is not the issue...but the fact that you are labelling it "lesbian clothing" is, as it reinforces an inaccurate stereotype. While I am certain you did not mean to do so, you are saying with that label that you believe that any female who dresses androgynously is a lesbian.
Please, by all means, request androgynous clothing for your sims, but do not label it as "lesbian clothing".
Depending on exactly what you're looking for, both gelydh and aikea_guinea on here would be a good place to start, and HystericalParoxysm's fanseefem collection at Mod the Sims 2 may also be of interest. That link takes you to the main set, but there's numerous others connected to it, either under recolours, or through HP's profile.
Please let us know if you have any further questions
TSR mods
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I would like to take this time to appologize to any glbt that i have offended. especially considering i am a lesbian myself. It was not my intention to do so. It was my intention to offer help in a situation that in my opinion clearly neeeded some aid. so a idea was born and i expressed it and my opinon, as i have the right to do "free speech" Androgynous was just a name that at the time i saw fitting and probably will not back down from using. Needless to say i have just canceled my memebership at tsr, my line will not be available through them.
With that being said i look forward to the continuing support and shrug off the negative feedback i cant be bothered at this point.
cmo2005:
I'd just like to remind everyone that i'm still looking for a partner(s) to join the team with the purpose of mesh making. Any and Everyone is welcomed, just pm and/or add me and i'll be sure to get back to you and listen to any ideas you may have. That goes for the general public as well anyone with an idea please feel free to submit it. :) thanks everyone
XOXO
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Sam the T-man:
First off, while I agree that labeling them as "lesbian" clothes is stereotyping, I don't think that's good enough reason to remove your post from the forum - but then, that's TSR for you :P
We do need more of that kinda thing - I wouldn't dress that way myself, but I'm still no fan of the girly outfits and high heels abound in the community (although they're good for variety ;)). What you've done looks great :)
On a side-note though, this is the wrong forum - this is for storytelling help ;) *waves to next passing mod to get this moved*
cmo2005:
Thanks *whistles for a mod* u know i dont know how it got here in the first place :| i really didnt mean to put it here lol.... and as for labeling it as lesbian clothing, like i told the mod from tsr that wasnt my intention (but i still appologize if it came out that way) at all... i really was just making a reference to my simmies and my personal prefrence. the way i see it like any other custom content if you like it you dwl it, regardless of what the name is you know? I'd also like to point out that i wanted to get a male androgynous line out as well but i didnt want to mention it until i found a mesh aid... *pouts*
*writes on blackboard*
"I will learn to phrase things better"...100x
Sam the T-man:
Oh, don't worry about it. They're a funny lot at TSR, you only have to breathe the wrong way and they start on you from what I've seen. I know where you're coming from though, a girl I dated once dressed something like that. (FYI I'm bi ;))
Hope this gets off the ground - I would but I'm still learning about this kind of stuff.
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