Insanely High Poly Counts - now you KNOW what to trash!

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quackers1226:
I don't know about YOU but I am sick and tired of ye olde "dragging mouse through molasses" syndrome.  You know what I mean.  One of the quickest fixes is going through all your CC and deleting!  But, before you part with your faves - why not get rid of the items that have such insanely high polys it is pointless to keep?  I mean, come on Reflex Sims new Classic Outdoor Set uses 20,000 some polys for a CHAIR - the equivalent of a CAR.  As you can see from the list, there are many other creators out there guilty of the same.  Keep in mind that it IS worse for items that are used in multiples (like chairs) than items used once ((like a vase).  
If this is in the wrong spot, sorry, I just couldn't decide where to throw it!  

http://www.simscave.com/ferris/index.php?topic=1181.0
by MCP from simscave  This new link is actually in a place where everyone can read it.  Oops.  Will update as info becomes available.

Mango Opera set cushions (1 tile) : V 6025 F 10082
Mango Milord set tray (1 tile) : V 15698 F 28804
Solander K-Set01 Messageboard (1 tile) : V 9776 F 12910
ReflexForum AngelamvEliza Clock Window (2 tile) : V 14256 F 16096
Stylist Sims Montreal Plant (1 tile) : V 23258 F 24488
Bella's Birthday Gift to Mira Dining Chair (1 tile) : V 3393 F 5174
Sasilia Mondo Kitchen Counter 1a (1 tile) : V 6326 F 5205
Sasilia Mondo Kitchen Counter 2 (1 tile) : V 6566 F 5325
Sasilia Dining Free Ceiling Lamp (1 tile) : V 4282 F 5484
Sasilia Newport Living Sofa (3 tiles) : V 3783 F 6092
KansasCityRose Pottery Barn Kitchen Counter with Drawers (1 tile) : V 6156 F 5795
KansasCityRose Pottery Barn Bathroom Cabinet (1 tile) : V 1964 F 6454
KansasCityRose Pottery Barn Bathroom Counter 1 (1 tile) : V 4816 F 7148
KansasCityRose Pottery Barn Bathroom Counter 2 (1 tile) : V 5994 F 8412
KansasCityRose Pottery Barn Dining Room Candelier (1 tile) : V 4664 F 6544
Sims Design Ave Arcan Set Wall Candles (1 tile) : V 3851 F 5954
Sims Design Ave Campagne Childs Room Dresser (2 tile) : V 6862 F 6444
Sims Design Ave Campagne Living Room Table Lamp (1 tile) : V 4720 F 7788
Sims Design Ave Campagne Bedroom Dresser (2 tile) : V 6332 F 7944
Wall Sims Angel Bottle of Wine (1 tile) : V 3634 F 6494
SimSecrets Newport Living Candles (1 tile) : V 5500 F 7302
SimSecrets Newport Dining Lighthouse Lamp (1 tile) : V 6013 F 8080
Birgit43 Set Laufen Fountain (1 tile) : V 3733 F 7400
ReflexSims Classic Outdoor Set
                       Chair: V (verticals) 20069, T (faces) 39404
                       Table: V 9926, T 19776
                       Parasol: V 9742, T 19452
UPDATED APRIL 2, 2008 by SHEEHAZ
Sims Design Avenue/Caravan Shop Sims
Campagne Kitchen Set/Cuisine Set Campagne
Set_Campagne_Frances_Chaise_Cuisine(1 tile) : V.5695 F.6706 (Dining Chair)
Set_Campagne_Frances_Frigidaire(1 tile): V.6993 F.6052
Set_Campagne_Frances_Ilot Table(6 tiles): V.17262 F.20370 (Dining table sized kitchen island.)
Set_Campagne_Frances_Lustre(1 tile): V.7522 F.7844 (Light)
Set_Campagne_Frances_MuebleBas01(1 tile): V.26069 F. 21534 (Counter!)
Set_Campagne_Frances_MuebleBas02(1 tile): V.24485 F.20061 (Counter!)
Set_Campagne_Frances_MuebleHautDroite(1 tile): V.8076 F. 7314 (Right portion of the wall cabinet that forms the stove surround.)
Set_Campagne_Frances_MuebleHautGroche(1 tile): V.6511 F. 5739 (Left portion of the wall cabinet that forms the stove surround.)
Set_Campagne_Frances_MuebelHautPortes Tiroirs(1 tile): V.10494 F. 10094 (Wall cabinet with three drawers.)
Misc Files
Cotswold Kitchen Counter(1 tile): V.12741 F.9532
Cotswold Island Counter(1 tile): V.9613 F.7201
B43_bellaforumchair(1 tile): V.5499 F.5068
Barcelona Chair_bySJmCreative office: V.29380 F.25794
Barcelona Ottoman: V.13182 F.11178
Sunnisims_Detours Irish Canopy: V.9211 F.13511

I am going to go ahead and do Vita Sims.  I feel very strongly about this as it is one of those sites I always drooled after before I knew about PMBD and here.  I have gotten this much done so far...I, quackers actually did these!  I am so very proud of myself.
Vita Sims Victorian Dining Room
candle   v +++  f 7241
barstool   v +++  f 4447
BIG Curtain   v +++  f 5912
Buffet   v +++  f 18,959
Dining Chair   v +++  f 5072
End Table  v +++  f 11,323
Fireplace Tool  v +++ f 2686
Lustra   v +++  f 17058
Vase With Flowers  v +++  f 9933
Bar  v +++  f 4235
Bar Stuff   v +++  f 5873
Chair v +++  f 8885
Dining Table  (2 Tiles) v +++  f 22,540    
Fireplace   v +++  f 26,458
Fireplace Tool  v +++  f 6292
SideBoard   v 3402  f 1789




Vita Sims Victorian Billiard Room

Bar   v 3068  f 3008
Barstool  v 3155  f 2838
Billiard Stuff  v 1570  f 1519
Chair  v +++   f 7520
Curtains  v +++   f 2764
Floor Lamp  v 3723   f 2418
Moose  v +++  f 3697
Pool Table  v +++  f 4662
Wall decor  v       f 4953
Bar Cab Glass  v +++  f 6028
Big Lamp  v 2903   f 2823
Wine Shelf  v 2231  f 2000
Card Chair  v +++  f 6163
Coffee Table  v +++  f 4125
LoveSeat (2 Tiles) v +++  f 8050
Bar Cabinet v +++  f 6026
Lamp  v 1419  f 1365




OK I saw this on BinesSimsRevue and couldn't resist seeing if the whole to-do about her Classic Outdoor Set made her change her ways...

AngelamvEliza Reflex Sims Forum Modern Dining Set

Floor Lamp  v 1318  f 1532
Sidetable  v +++  f 14764
Wine Glasses  v +++  f 6136
Chair  v 2023  f 3240
Table  v +++  f 3176



apparently not...unfortunately.



learn about polys here http://www.modthesims2.com/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Poly_Counts


The thread listing has now gotten quite large and I would hate to take up the whole forum space here with it SO I will still tell you guys when it has been updated but I don't think I will post any more of it here.  It is on to page two over there and, well, that is a heck of a lot!  So, head on over to http://www.simscave.com/ferris/index.php?topic=1181.0  if you want to peruse the updated listing.  It is in an area where everyone can see it (Sims 2 Chit Chat).

Jonesi of Reflex Sims Forum has actually updated her September Sofa Set in response to this list!  This is just the kind of reaction we are hoping for!  
September Sofa Set
picture - 207
chair - was 6144 - now 2464
table - was 1752 - now 984
sofa - was 10082 - 4092
curtain- 650
fireplace - 681
cushion - was 988 - now 224

PegasusDiana:
Vita Sims has some beautiful stuff, but her stuff has also always been extremely high in poly counts. Only set I still have I think from what you posted is the campagne set. I'm gonna go check out the Poly count on it, because I use the whole set. Although, I've never had it slow down my game.

I'm getting a different reading in SimsPE on some of these. Still high, but for instance:
Set_Campagne_Frances_MuebelHautPortes Tiroirs(1 tile): V.10494 F. 10094 (Wall cabinet with three drawers.)

I get F. 3884 V. 4474(I haven't used any type of compression thing on them)But that's a huge difference.

On  Set_Campagne_Frances_Ilot Table(6 tiles): V.17262 F.20370 (Dining table sized kitchen island.)

I got the same reading. So about 3395 Poly's per tile.

Set_Campagne_Frances_MuebleBas01(1 tile): V.26069 F. 21534 (Counter!)

I got F. 3008 V. 2231 That is a big/big difference!! I don't know where some of these numbers are coming from. I'm attaching my Screenshots.

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From MTS2
5) FACECOUNT = POLYCOUNT

Most body meshes are in the 2000-3500 range on poly count.
Extra details or alpha additions tend to make the count a bit higher.
Hair is also usually in about that same range.

For objects - the rule of thumb is to aim for 800 poly or less per tile that the object takes up. But again - that can vary depending on the detail of the object. Comparing to several similar Maxis meshes is another way to see if your counts seem in line with 'normal'.

What is too high?

Generally if you're not within the range of similar meshes made by Maxis - then you should investigate ways to reduce the count. If your poly count is twice Maxis amounts - that is high, but perhaps justifiable, if the item has a lot of curves or extra details. Higher than that it should be something super-special.

You're taking the time to make a mesh; take time to know what is a 'normal' poly count and to use just enough mesh detail to get the effect you want and create more detail using your textures. The better your textures, the better the overall impression your mesh will make.

quackers1226:
I did not do the campagne set myself.  I only did Vita and ReflexSims Forum set.  Feel free to venture over to Sims Cave (follow link in first thread) and talk to the person who actually did that particular posting to see what's what.  For those sets, I am only the humble messenger.  I'll take a look myself and ask later when I am able to head over there...getting ready to let someone ride his trike around the block in a sec.

kalynn06:
It looks like from my quick look, that the counter numbers are caused by the fact that there are multiple versions of the counter in one package.  The numbers seem to be derived from adding all the versions.  If I do that I get the same numbers that are listed.  The counts are too high for counters but not as high as that.  Actually that whole set is high which is a shame, because I love it, but even the things that are essentially boxes are higher than they should be.

J00wish:
This is an interesting thread (and VERY helpful to those with slower computers). This is also a great help to those who aren't savvy with polycounts and what to look for.

While I appreciate your listing the high polycount (without any negative remarks towards the creators) I think it would be a HUGE help if someone could break it down a little simpler. For instance,

Maxi chair Plolycount: XXXXX

This way people will understand what a high polycount means in terms of what it should be. I wish I could do it but I am one of those people still trying to grasp what to look for.

Thank you for this post.

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