What's your take on Securom?
abaris:
My take on Securom?
I made it my policy not to buy any game unless there's a no CD/DVD patch out already. So these pieces of cack don't enter my drive. They're more than useless anyway, since the games are cracked within hours of them hitting the market. All these so called security tools are only there to annoy customers.
And securom especially? Well, since the sony scandal a few years back, the label sony is a major deterrent for me.
BlooM:
As far as i know Securom worked ok till they did a update on it wich wasn't properly tested.
This update came with Bon voyage(correct me if im wrong) and wasn't compatible with alot cd/dvd drives wich resulted in a game that wouldn't start.
Securom will Never crash your game, it simply prevents it from starting.
The exe will freeze and you have to end it with the task manager before you can have a 2nd attempt.
I suspect Securom is trying to update their product by making it compatible with all cd/dvd drives and those updates come with the EP's after Bon Voyage.
When i installed Bath and Kitchen my problems were gone while it didn't fix it for others.
Securom was already in Seasons and in the special basegame cd's(with one EP included)
Nobody ever complained about it till they made a mistake, and now we want to shoot them..........
You might consider why they invented securom, to avoid piracy and that also includes the people that borrowed EP's from eachother or installed the game on more then one computer.
How would you feel when you invent something nice and your neighbor makes 100 copy's of it and gives them away for free......
Thats how i think about it. ;)
abaris:
Quote from: BlooM;1382772
How would you feel when you invent something nice and your neighbor makes 100 copy's of it and gives them away for free......
Thats how i think about it. ;)
Not the point. The point is, it doesn't do what it's supposed to do. Like with any other copy protection programms it's a laugh for those wanting to hack things and an annoyance for honest customers. And it was qualified as being a proud member of the most aggressive family of malwares some years back - namely rootkits. It doesn't matter if it's administered by a major corporation, it's still a rootkit.
Nione:
In the state of California the installation of software, including copyright protection software on people's computers without knowledge and consent is now illegal but they are probably gambling there will be no class action suit like Sony had with a previous copyright protection software issue. I don't know about law in other states and other countries, but EA is based in California. Yes, piracy is a real problem for companies and I do understand that, but as many people have pointed out, the people who pirate have cracks (and because of Securom and Starforce etc. now many people who do not pirate have turned to those as well). I have elected not to use methods to break Securom, but to do that means I can't play any of the games I may buy without knowing they contain Securom. I am lucky that I know how to check for it, but most consumers don't and although EA has a warranty, not all companies do for games. People who BOUGHT the games are spending money on tech support with their computer manufacturer, on new hardware, because they do not at first realize their CD/DVD capability was disabled or destroyed by Securom. In some cases, the person's software tells them a burn was successful and there's actually nothing on the disc, their backup is empty. A lot of people have computers that are used for work/home business as well as gaming. Obviously someone could lose an awful lot if they didn't think to verify the backup. Think of the family photos, the financial records, all the things that people actually bother to back up. Most people do not back up games, if they back up anything. They back up items of value. Even then many software licenses allow you to make a single copy of the software for backup reasons, to protect your investment in the software.
Tenshii~Akari:
Quote from: BlooM;1382772
Securom was already in Seasons and in the special basegame cd's(with one EP included)
Nobody ever complained about it till they made a mistake, and now we want to shoot them..........
Actually, beforehand EA had Safedisc as their anti-piracy software, and it only caused a few known hiccups (i.e. a few interferences in installing the game in normal Windows mode). SecuRom didn't come into the picture until H&M and BV were released, and thereon after. Trust me, if Seasons had SecuRom on it when I first bought it, I would've found it by now. Even did the searching just in case when the news came out about it, but everything came out clean. ;)
ETA: And now that I have a clearer head after a good night's rest, I do agree with you on a few things, BlooM. :angel: They did try to protect their hard work and investments... but I guess my "sharing" mentality kinda takes over when I don't see a lot of software pirates as a major setback to the company as a whole. I could see if they were trying to prevent people from pirating and selling the game at any price, though. That's where there'd be a real problem. But seeing as EA has over 100 million copies of Sims games sold, plus the fact that they're a prominent corporation in the console gaming genre (just about every RL-based sports game is made by them), should they really be that worried over it? They have(/had) the customer loyalty and support, and as long as they keep making good games, people will buy them, despite the "free" copies roaming around. (not condoning software pirating... people that work hard to create the games we play do deserve the profits)
My only gripe is that they have very little faith in consumers... a lot of people saw the true worth in actually buying the game up until the whole train wreck of problems they had with the new software. Heck, a lot of people still do see the worth in spite of that fact, just not as many as before. Now after reading up on what it can do to your computer, some people just don't want to take the risk to even try. I'm still not willing myself, and I'm not going to take the "other" route because I personally don't think it's worth it. Just me, of course. Can't speak for everyone else, though. :lol:
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