Religious faith versus Non-conformist faith and the Sims 2
amadazul:
I have never associated the sims with any religion of any sort. We all have to deal with so much stuff in our daily lives that it would take away the fantasy and fun if you threw so much real world stuff into the game. Whatever religion, if you have one at all, we can all agree that the sims is fun.
Amira:
As a Muslim, I'm pretty strict with my values according to Islam. When I started to play the sims, I was having fun and wouldn't take my game to the heart. It's just a game. When I saw creators making the sims more diverse, I was so excited. I got inspired to create sims and share my religion of Islam and the way Muslim women act or Muslims in general. I got welcomed by the Mods and answered PM questions to fellow members. I wanted the Sim community to know there is a Muslim player on the board. I don't know much about Wicca but to each it's own. I'm not for White magic or Black magic. I believe in it but from what I have been taught and what Islam says to avoid having magic put on you. That's another topic.
So the other day, I checked out APT life and as a Muslim, anything that is has to do with the Devil or what is it? Witchcraft is a major sin to actually commit the act. Well, it's in a game. I mean it's just a game for real. It's not like I'm really going to allow myself to do this outside the sims2. I play the sims as a hobby and past time of mine. I don't know why anyone would get all butt hurt about a simple game. IT'S JUST A GAME! Sorry but for real. Not to be a prude but grow up. Stop whining about the game having "witchcraft" or "satanism". If it bothers you that much, don't buy the game and wait for another EP maybe the next one will be all about Islam. Let's see someone of ya'll really "FREAK" out.
Amira
stygia2002:
amar el7ob: I think it's awesome that we have so much diversity among our players, and as a Muslim, you have a great opportunity do be an "ambassador" of sorts. Personally, even though I'm a Witch, I am curious about things that I don't understand, including (especially) belief systems. Not everyone would have a meltdown over a Sims EP that focused on Islam...I know I wouldn't. I'd buy it, partly becuase I'm a Sims junkie ;) , and partly because I enjoy diversity in my game (I have Sims with Jewish items from Holiday Stuff, so why not other cultures?). The only belief system I really have a problem with is Satanism, and my problem with it isn't based on ignorance, I have known several Satanists and understand what they're about. So if the Sims ever came out with an EP that really *was* focused on such a concept, I would not buy it. But I wouldn't rant and rave that it should be banned either! Just my two (or so) cents.
Blessings,
--Stygia
digni7y:
Stygia: Unfortunately, there's many people out there who would have a screaming fit if a game about Islam came out. "ZOMG INFIDELS YADA YADA". I personally wouldn't care because I've made the choice to not purchase another product from EA so long as they continue to use secuROM. If they didn't, I'd buy it in a heartbeat! I'd love to know more about Islam. But that's a different can of worms. :)
I'm a beginning Pagan. I came to Paganism through juvenile reasons-hex spell on a guy I liked who ended up liking someone else instead of me (long story, don't ask). I left it because I would have to *gasp* study the religion and my 15 year old self only wanted the instant gratification of seeing the guy turn into a toad :). It was only last year that I picked it up again because it simply clicked with me. I can't really describe it except as that. I hesitate calling myself a Witch or a Wiccan or an Astaru or anything because I know nothing yet even though I've been studying and keep a small altar on my dresser.
So, how does that figure into my game? It doesn't, really. I'm merely the Mother Goddess and I enjoy the power trip of having a bunch of pixelated beings responding to my commands and of having arranged marriages and bizarre experimentation (ACR + various auto woohoo mods and more sims hacks + 9 sims who have little self control=47 sims on one lot before the death of the first generation and the near death of my computer). Yet I get bored fairly quickly with my sims and move on within a few weeks to a month, leaving the neighborhoods to rot on my harddrive until I delete them.
pookysimlover:
Quote from: kathy;1363544
It isn't Satanic. That was the main point in the other thread. It is simply another belief that has been skewed, out of fear and ignorance of what it is, and twisted into something it isn't.
:wave: thank you Kathy, I have :study:studied Wicca myself and it really bothers me when people say its satanic, Wiccans don't even believe in Satan, so you can't worship what you don't even believe in, I now think of myself as Agnostic now, but I still respect the Wiccans, and other Pagans, and I love the new Sims pack, Apartment Life, I also love that they put Witches in it like The Sims 1 did, I wondered if they were going to do it or not, and they finally did, anyway thanks again Kathy. :smilebox:
one more thing, I would have loved it if they had put some more diversity in the Sims 2, Like Muslims and maybe Ascetic Jews, and Hindu's and Buddhists , I've tried to create that in my game myself, because I like to play with different kinds of characters, like I'm white But I have created a lot of black family's and Asian family's, maybe they will have more in the Sims 3, but I still love the witches, Zombies, Werewolves, and Vampires in the game, and Of course the Aliens, just try to remember its just a game, have fun and don't think about it so much, peace to everyone, and Happy Halloween.
Quote from: abaris;1388039
Interesting thought. Personally, I don't think, that I would move any closer to any form of organised religion. I'm already in my mid 40ies and had my share of lost loved ones. Did it move me closer to what I was born and raised with? The answer is no.
See, I was born an raised a catholic. Now I consider myself an agnostic and I can't imagine finding any answer in Christian or any other believe in the future. Simply because I don't believe in their concepts. That doesn't mean that I totally discard everything they're believing. If it was only about Jesus, he would be kind of a role model for a decent living. But it isn't. Over the centuries people have added the contents of the old Testament which festures a vengeful, jealous god, pretty much the same as the gods of the Hellenic or Roman pantheon. There has been much bending and stretching to make this concept half logical. Same goes for the trinity, which has been introduced at a much later time and - together with the saints - is basically the return to politheism.
The world is some billion years old and humanity took the stage some minutes ago as far as earth's history is concerned. We're insignificant and the few thousands of years of monotheistic religions are even more insignificant.
If I was to believe in something, it would be a neutral entity, neither good nor bad. It would be the force of nature itself.
:worship: I feel the same way I too am a Agnostic, though it took me years to figure that out but I know now that is the right word for me, anyway I totally agree with what you said, and though I do put different characters in my game who might be followers of some religion or another, even though I don't believe in any of them, and even though it wouldn't bother me if they put any of them in the game like Muslims, I don't think its really necessary, The Sims has always been about fantasy which is what makes the game so great and it is the best game ever, at least until the Sims 3 comes out in Feb 09 HeeHee.:worship:
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