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The Sims 2 Forum (BBS) > Help > SecuROM Issues > "What your problem with SM Burpie ?"
 | What your problem with SM Burpie ? Read 1063 times (MyrtoPlayer) Oct-08-07 10:10 AM PDT (updated) |
 | | those caps are killlers, i thought it was a bbs no no to use,
actually it is hard... (WandaAnn1000) Oct-08-07 10:13 AM PDT |
 |  | | Better now ? :-) (MyrtoPlayer) Oct-08-07 10:15 AM PDT |
 | | It's apparently okay to threaten someone else if you use enough smilies, and assure t... (CalalilyPlayer) Oct-08-07 10:20 AM PDT |
| | Are you trying to incite a riot?!? :-innocent :-innocent:-innocent (JoMar28P) Oct-08-07 10:24 AM PDT |
| | If anyone answers you they are putting themself up for a ban from this site... Simmas... (Melomo6) Oct-08-07 10:28 AM PDT |
| | | SimmasterBurpie can be HELPFUL WITHOUT being INSULTING!! It's the insults that are ge... (Vr795) Oct-08-07 12:00 PM PDT (updated) |
| | my problem with SM Burpie
is her THEORIES thats shes passing off as FACT an then... (knightguy1982) Oct-08-07 10:31 AM PDT |
| | | I can agree, but you have to understand that she has to do what EA directs her to do!... (Melomo6) Oct-08-07 10:43 AM PDT |
| | SMBurpie's post is presenting theories as facts and that is wrong. It is misleading... (ObiesWalter) Oct-08-07 11:42 AM PDT (updated) |
| | | I strongly imply you should use your first ammendment and write EA! 8-)
Simmaster... (Melomo6) Oct-08-07 11:48 AM PDT (updated) |
| | | I understand that and, believe me, I AM angry at EA and I do hold them and Sony liabl... (ObiesWalter) Oct-08-07 12:01 PM PDT |
| | thanks for the laugh that was funny:-chuckle:-chuckle:-chuckle (playliar4) Oct-08-07 11:52 AM PDT |
| | Nobody is going to kill you for that post, well, maybe Burpie will take her USB cords... (acagle0407) Oct-08-07 10:31 AM PDT |
| | | This forum is for SecuRom questions, not about whether or not we have problems with t... (Wndy10010) Oct-08-07 10:44 AM PDT |
| | Excuse me if I made that not easy to understand ! :-)
When I said babies I meant und... (MyrtoPlayer) Oct-08-07 10:51 AM PDT |
| | | yes that was read out of context.. I understood you not calling anyone names but refe... (Melomo6) Oct-08-07 10:53 AM PDT |
| | Because of her thread that is mostly saying that if you do not agree with her take on... (MorriganRane) Oct-08-07 11:03 AM PDT |
| | | legally i do not think she can link us to other sources.. remember she is deemed empl... (Melomo6) Oct-08-07 11:52 AM PDT |
| | | no, but she could link to official sites that back up her statements, an official sit... (MorriganRane) Oct-08-07 12:10 PM PDT |
| | I think this sums it up beautifully. This is the attitude of not only SMB's post but... (ObiesWalter) Oct-08-07 12:04 PM PDT |
| | My problem with "SimMaster" Burpie, is that she can't spell the name of the program.... (Marrianna113) Oct-08-07 11:08 AM PDT (updated) |
| | | ROFL
I thougt i was the only one who cought that..
but i have seen it over and... (Melomo6) Oct-08-07 11:17 AM PDT |
| | | You used a smiley, of course you were joking! :-chuckle
And the sad thing is, is t... (Marrianna113) Oct-08-07 11:24 AM PDT |
| | | well when she reads this I would like to point out that it is even mispelled at the t... (Melomo6) Oct-08-07 11:41 AM PDT (updated) |
| | omg so thats where she gets its a differnet version of SecuROM being used 8-O
this... (knightguy1982) Oct-08-07 11:17 AM PDT |
| | | Oh I sent a very well written complaint to the web team about it. Indeed...
It is... (TheCallumus) Oct-08-07 11:27 AM PDT (updated) |
| | | Actually, not just "seemingly". It's exactly what she's been doing. She made a post c... (Chandra9901) Oct-08-07 11:53 AM PDT (updated) |
| | | It can't be fact since she's talking about something entirely different (we're talkin... (Marrianna113) Oct-08-07 12:07 PM PDT (updated) |
| | Actually, it us usually unacceptable and unprofessional for ANY moderator (generally... (Baskar00007) Oct-08-07 11:57 AM PDT |
| |  | Thanks Baskar, but you can stop dictating to me how you think I should do my job, ple... (SimMasterBurpie) Oct-08-07 12:12 PM PDT (updated) |
| | MyrtoPlayer is speaking the truth! SM Burpie is just trying to help everyone. It's... (Jrobinred) Oct-08-07 11:47 AM PDT |
| | | Because she's being violent!!!! and Unfair! (Blondeboi575) Oct-08-07 11:58 AM PDT |
| | SM Burpie may be trying to be helpful, however her / his tone in the last few posts I... (feldynn) Oct-08-07 12:04 PM PDT |
| | And again I say:
SimmasterBurpie can be HELPFUL WITHOUT being INSULTING!! It's the... (Vr795) Oct-08-07 12:11 PM PDT |
| | | Excuse me, but I have not insulted anybody at any time on this site.
I realize you... (SimMasterBurpie) Oct-08-07 12:24 PM PDT |
| | For the last freaking time, the post that is at the top of this board outlines the... (SimMasterBurpie) Oct-08-07 12:03 PM PDT |
| | | I never stated that any one was stupid, I said mis-informed. Please, recheck with Tec... (MorriganRane) Oct-08-07 12:13 PM PDT |
| | | I'm sorry but I have sat back and read everything involved with this Securerom (sry i... (Akookykoala) Oct-08-07 12:25 PM PDT |
| | | I hear what your saying Akooky,
I am sure that EA will be providing an official st... (SimMasterBurpie) Oct-08-07 12:36 PM PDT |
| | Deleting my post about YOUR spelling mistakes doesn't change the fact that you are sp... (Marrianna113) Oct-08-07 12:17 PM PDT |
| | | guys please calm down with the anti-burpie comments. he/she (sorry don't know) is doi... (hberry88888888) Oct-08-07 12:25 PM PDT |
| | | If this is their "job" then they need to get their own facts straight before telling... (Marrianna113) Oct-08-07 12:27 PM PDT |
| | Deleting my post about YOUR spelling mistakes doesn't change the fact that you are s... (MorriganRane) Oct-08-07 12:27 PM PDT (updated) |
| | Your post was deleted because it was absolutely rude, and you are banned from partici... (SimMasterBurpie) Oct-08-07 12:28 PM PDT (updated) |
| | | You shouldn't be allowed to say Crap!!! It's a bad word!! Naughty Naughty! (Blondeboi575) Oct-08-07 12:50 PM PDT |
| | :-sickthey should call you " Ms. Banner" for banning 1/4 of the simmers(not really)... (AlxL319) Oct-08-07 12:51 PM PDT |
| | Thank you for your kind and courteous reply.
First, EA may have given you informat... (ObiesWalter) Oct-08-07 12:25 PM PDT |
| | And aren't you a clever little SimMaster for avoiding the general angst about the ina... (jakethemadcat) Oct-08-07 12:29 PM PDT |
| | No problems with Burpie.
She has a great sense of humour and is a welcome moderator... (bluegayle_) Oct-08-07 12:27 PM PDT (updated) |
| | Why can't anyone be nice? because of some stupid bug maxis overlooked makes everyone... (Castor0037) Oct-08-07 12:28 PM PDT |
| | | If SimMasterBurpie would spell SecuROM correctly then perhaps people would take her m... (TheCallumus) Oct-08-07 12:35 PM PDT (updated) |
| | Bottom line is:
The irony that SecuROM won't stop the piracy, and that all the peep... (Vr795) Oct-08-07 12:36 PM PDT (updated) |
| | | Bene to you. That's exactly right.
All of us who did the honest thing and bought... (ObiesWalter) Oct-08-07 12:39 PM PDT |
| | | Well thanky muchly for the BENEdiction ObiesWalter:-chuckle:-chuckle (Vr795) Oct-08-07 12:43 PM PDT (updated) |
| | Securom is not a bug. They put it in on purpose. It's supposed to be an anti-piracy p... (Keeper3211) Oct-08-07 12:39 PM PDT (updated) |
| | Bug? What bug? The NPC spawning bug? None of this is about that at all. It's about Se... (MorriganRane) Oct-08-07 12:40 PM PDT |
| | I don't think it is actually helping. There are more angry and hurt simmers over the... (CalalilyPlayer) Oct-08-07 12:42 PM PDT |
| | Oh you people are just impossible. Is there absolutely nothing, nothing, that you wo... (SimMasterBurpie) Oct-08-07 12:51 PM PDT |
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Why is almost everybody accusing her for spreading misleading information ! She is JUST trying to help us , you should thank her about that !
Of course I don't desagree with all you that are Mad wih her but she is just trying to help ! I'm sure that if she said sth that did not sound very polite to some "elder" simmers , she was just joking.I think we SHOULD ask sory about OUR behaviour that it was so childlish even more childlish than it was ever expected to be!
Concluding I really feel like you that do not like to being threatened like you are some kind of babies but think about it' isn't it pity to "brake our hearts" because of a non sucessfull Joke ?
Please don't kill me because of that post ... and for Gods sake do not attack me I'm just expressing my opinion  !
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Why is almost everybody accusing her for spreading misleading information ! She is JUST trying to help us , you should thank her about that !
Of course I don't desagree with all you that are Mad wih her but she is just trying to help ! I'm sure that if she said sth that did not sound very polite to some "elder" simmers , she was just joking.I think we SHOULD ask sory about OUR behaviour that it was so childlish even more childlish than it was ever expected to be!
Concluding I really feel like you that do not like to being threatened like you are some kind of babies but think about it' isn't it pity to "brake our hearts" because of a non sucessfull Joke ?
Please don't kill me because of that post ... and for Gods sake do not attack me I'm just expressing my opinion :-) !
Thank You :-)
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those caps are killlers, i thought it was a bbs no no to use,
actually it is hard on the eyes, i would be kinder not to do those colored caps, your post would be read well without them. caps are regarded as shouting, colored caps are even worse...
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Quoted from original message:
those caps are killlers, i thought it was a bbs no no to use,
actually it is hard on the eyes, i would be kinder not to do those colored caps, your post would be read well without them. caps are regarded as shouting, colored caps are even worse...
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It's apparently okay to threaten someone else if you use enough smilies, and assure them that you are joking - that's what has happened here. You can even then make it the threatened person's fault, just so long as you are joking, and have enough smilies.    See? I can't be held responsible - there's smilies attached, and I'm known to be a joker.
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Are you trying to incite a riot?!? 
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If anyone answers you they are putting themself up for a ban from this site... SimmasterBurpie is being as helpful as she can, with the information given to her.
I am an elder simmer and although i feel the simmasters are under a HUGE deal of stress, some emotions could go without being said and making some people feel insulted or angry..and I dont agree with some responses as well, and I do think they should of been delt with in private.. but really it is not my place to tell them how to do there jobs!
Focus you angers where it matters people, on EA , it isnt on the simmasters ... remember they did not include this software on the games, as a matter of fact they had NO choice in the matter just like all of us... so to yell at them for secuROM is just not rational!
If you have other matters that your were offended or "do not like" a simmaster complain to where it matters, now that i could agree with... but again there doing the best they can with the informaiton given to them from EA and as a simmaster they have to believe that information is true... And agian if you have a poroblem with a simmaster blasting them on this forum is really not going to accomplish anything but making them very mad and getting you banned.
Like i said up above i am also on the fence with a few responses, but you cannot be mad at them for giving you the inforation they are being fed... even if we dont agree with it! Its all they have to answer the angry mobs of people over this... the real fault does not lie with them it lies with EA.
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SimmasterBurpie can be HELPFUL WITHOUT being INSULTING!! It's the insults that are getting to people!!! And RIGHTLY SO darn it!!
NO smiley and NO joking!!
Forget BENES, & Count BLESSINGS
Maybe you can think of it as a BENEdiction instead!
 CATS ARE PEOPLE TOO!
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my problem with SM Burpie
is her THEORIES thats shes passing off as FACT an then she locks or deletes everything that dosent go along with said THEORY
since everyone knows FACTS are backed up with PROOF which tons people have asked her to provide where she got her info an she just says someone from EA (could be the janitor, mail clerk,lunch lady, a crazy ex-cleaning lady that got into the building)
i used "Protection_ID" an found out its "SecuROM - Version 7.xx" so all i can say is GOOGLE an read
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my problem with SM Burpie
is her THEORIES thats shes passing off as FACT an then she locks or deletes everything that dosent go along with said THEORY :-innocent
since everyone knows FACTS are backed up with PROOF which tons people have asked her to provide where she got her info an she just says someone from EA (could be the janitor, mail clerk,lunch lady, a crazy ex-cleaning lady that got into the building)
i used "Protection_ID" an found out its "SecuROM - Version 7.xx" so all i can say is GOOGLE an read
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I can agree, but you have to understand that she has to do what EA directs her to do!
and really can only give out the information given to her
has anyone realized that if she came out and said I dont agree with EA that she could probably as a simmaster be held accountable down the road for her words by them?
simmasterBurpie has to watch what she is telling us just like we have to watch what we are saying... Its all legal mumbo jumbo, and even if she doesnt agree it is her job to tell us what EA wants..
Again if your mad at some of her posts that are taken as insulting then i totally get it ...
But ever hear the saying "dont kill the messinger"
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Quoted from original message:
my problem with SM Burpie
is her THEORIES thats shes passing off as FACT an then she locks or deletes everything that dosent go along with said THEORY :-innocent
since everyone knows FACTS are backed up with PROOF which tons people have asked her to provide where she got her info an she just says someone from EA (could be the janitor, mail clerk,lunch lady, a crazy ex-cleaning lady that got into the building)
i used "Protection_ID" an found out its "SecuROM - Version 7.xx" so all i can say is GOOGLE an read
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SMBurpie's post is presenting theories as facts and that is wrong. It is misleading many in this community into thinking SecuROM is just some benign program that merely prevents a game from being pirated. SecuROM can't even do it's job right. This game was pirated and on the Internet to download the very first day it was released. Now, that's a pretty effectual anti-piracy program, isn't it?
She keeps telling everyone to do their homework or go back to school, take their choice but she needs to take her own advice. She needs to make the choice of doing HER homework or going back to school and find out what SecrROM really is and what it really does to a system.
She says it does not leave a system vulnerable to any kind of attack. I would like her to explain why my firewall was shut off. I would like her to explain why my anti-virus program was shut down. I would like her to explain why my spyware programs could not update themselves against new threats. Is the fact that those three protective services were disabled on my computer not leaving the system open to threats? Course, now I guess I'll never know because that computer system is dead. The computer worked fine before SecuROM infected my machine and, yes, opened it to attack.
And those are not the only problems I had. My DVD/CD burner would not function. Thank you, SecuROM. My burning program did not function. Thank you SecuROM. The computer ran like molasses despite the fact the system resources were high and there wasn't anything on the computer that should have taxed the system. Thanks, SecuROM.
And if SMB thinks that simply uninstalling the games that are infected with SecuROM will remove it from your system she should think again. I have another computer that SecuROM has infected thanks to the Sims. It is showing some of the same symptoms my now dead system did. Every single Sims game has been removed from that system. Every single one right down to the base game. Guess what is still lurking around on the hard drive just waiting to cause more trouble. You got it, SecuROM.
So, my problem with SMB is that she needs to do her homework and find out that yes, SecuROM does damage systems and leave them open for attack before she starts criticising everyone who is having problems. We didn't ask for this trouble, it was given to us by EAxis without our knowledge or consent. Now, because we were not able to make the choice of our computers or a game we're having to deal with the fallout.
I don't appreciate that and I don't appreciate being talked down to by someone who accuses me of doing something she clearly hasn't done herself.
Open your eyes SMB and stop being so paranoid and thinking that everyone is against YOU. This issue isn't about YOU. If this IS about YOU would you like me to send you the bill for having my computer repaired or replaced? Do you want the bill for the 4 EA games I have now that I can't use because they have SecuROM on them? If just one person or 10 people were having problems then it could be written off to bad system specs. But, you have a large number of people in the Sims gaming community having the same problems. You have a large number of people in other gaming communities having the same problems with the same version of SecuROM. Are we all making a mountain out of a molehill?
I guess the solution to this problem is going to be the standard solution: lock the threads so no one else can share their information and problems and let anyone know what is really going on, blame the users for doing something wrong or having "bad system specs" and pass the buck to Sony or whoever else is readily available.
Well, I'll tell you MY solution: from here on out there will NEVER be another EA game installed on my computer or any other computer in my home.
Thank you for your time and for listening to my concerns that I have the right to express thanks to a little thing called the FIRST AMENDMENT.
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I strongly imply you should use your first ammendment and write EA!
SimmasterBurpie is just doing as EA tells her, and the opposite of that would open her up to huge liability from EA.
Focus, Its EA that we need to focus all our anger on not the simmasters. They are just the ones who EA chose to handle this backlash while they sit back and talk it up with lawyers and programmers on the matter. It is EA who choses to limit the amount of wrong information she is allowed to tell us,
And someone as passionate as you and I about this issue needs to be wrighting EA and signing the petition in my siggy not bashing the uninformed simmasters who really cant do anything but tell us what there told and ban us anyways... Remeber there regular people not paid by EA.. if i was one i would have not wanted to deal with this at all.. Personally I sort of feel How dare EA let there simmasters out to the wolves with misinformation and no backing of any sort!
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I strongly imply you should use your first ammendment and write EA!
SimmasterBurpie is just doing as EA tells her, and the opposite of that would open her up to huge liability from EA.
Focus, Its EA that we need to focus all our anger on not the simmasters. They are just the ones who EA chose to handle this backlash while they sit back and talk it up with lawyers and programmers on the matter. It is EA who choses to limit the amount of wrong information she is allowed to tell us,
And someone as passionate as you and I about this issue needs to be wrighting EA and signing the petition in my siggy
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I understand that and, believe me, I AM angry at EA and I do hold them and Sony liable for every single thing SecuROM did to my system. I want to stress that I have nothing personal against her at all. My problem is that I feel she is doing a disservice to the community by not presenting it with factual information and by ridiculing them for sharing their thoughts and concerns about it.
SMB should not get on this board and tell people she's sick of hearing them voice their opinion on something that is important to them. She needs to understand that there are people on here who can't afford to buy a $4,000 gaming system or even replace a $100 optical drive that might be destroyed. There are some that can't afford taking their computers in to specialists every week to fix the damage that SecuROM allowed to happen because it shut down their anti-virus and allowed a trojan in to lock up the system. Not everyone on this board is Bill Gates. We all don't have massive amounts of computer knowledge to deal with problems of this nature.
I know a lot of people who have bought Sim games that literally have to save for a long time just to get that game. When they do get it they don't deserve this kind of treatment. So, when SecuROM starts causing trouble for them, what are they supposed to do? Forget about it? Not say anything for fear it will hurt someones feelings?
Where are these people supposed to go so share information and learn more? They have to have an outlet and she needs to be more understanding. No one is accusing her of causing all this trouble.
Funny thing, I don't see anyone in other gaming communities telling people to go back to school or telling people how fed up they are of hearing complaints.
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thanks for the laugh that was funny
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This forum is for SecuRom questions, not about whether or not we have problems with the SimMasters.
I would love a board to get out my frustration, like GP, but we aint' gonna get that.
I am not 14 yrs old and bucking for a SimMaster position!
SecuRom causes real computer damage, Don't buy Deluxe, Pet Life Stories, H&M or BV...don't be
naive!
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yes that was read out of context.. I understood you not calling anyone names but referring to other people as saying they felt like they were being treated as babies
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Because of her thread that is mostly saying that if you do not agree with her take on the Facts then your thread will be deleted.
It's pretty much saying "post any opinion you have, as long as you agree with our version of what the truth is".
She's posting truths that have been told to her, not ones that she has found out for herself and she can not link to a place that backs up this information. To anyone that supplies alternate information(that contradicts hers) she deletes their posts and if they keep it up she bans them, even when they have proof of their own Truth. I do not blame her on her lack of knowledge about Securom as she believes that what someone else told her is the truth, but she has not bothered to check up on her own and bans people who say that she is mistaken. All I have to say is that what one person says is not Gospel, and you certainly do not have to defend it like it is. There should be space for doubt and a change of opinion, now that she has said something she refuses to believe that it could possibly be wrong.
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legally i do not think she can link us to other sources.. remember she is deemed employed by EA
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no, but she could link to official sites that back up her statements, an official site could be Microsoft, SecuRom themselves that kind of place, official tech help sites, besides the point, she herself is contradicting information that we were given before, in her sticky, for instance, removing H&M and BV do not remove SecuRom in any way. She is telling people who do not know any better that this is a Truth and deleting posts that say otherwise. Has she not checked posts by other simMasters or MAxoids? This is in no way a truth but she is inforcing it like it is even though there is information from EA that says otherwise. Even EAs Tech help says that removing RecuRom is not simple!
http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Main_Page
sims2 wiki Use it, its usefull. for your technical game error questions go here
http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Halp%21
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Because of her thread that is mostly saying that if you do not agree with her take on the Facts then your thread will be deleted.
It's pretty much saying "post any opinion you have, as long as you agree with our version of what the truth is".
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I think this sums it up beautifully. This is the attitude of not only SMB's post but of all the responses we've heard from EAxis to date about this issue.
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My problem with "SimMaster" Burpie, is that she can't spell the name of the program. I do believe the name of this entire section is called SECUROM issues because the thing is called SECUROM, and Burpie continually calls it secuRErom, which... no.
If you're going to pass off your own theories as fact, especially when you're a spokesperson for the company who gave this program to us, the least you can do is get the name of the program right! How can we believe someone's "facts" when they obviously don't know what they're talking about?!
For all we know, there's an entirely different program out there called secureROM, which is what her info is about - and that doesn't effect us at all because we have SECUROM.
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My problem with "SimMaster" Burpie, is that she can't spell the name of the program. I do believe the name of this entire section is called SECUROM issues because the thing is called SECUROM, and Burpie continually calls it secuRErom, which... no.
If you're going to pass off your own theories as fact, especially when you're a spokesperson for the company who gave this program to us, the least you can do is get the name of the program right! How can we believe someone's "facts" when they obviously don't know what they're talking about?!
For all we know, there's an entirely different program out there called secureROM, which is what her info is about - and that doesn't effect us at all because we have SECUROM.
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ROFL
I thougt i was the only one who cought that..
but i have seen it over and over spelled by her a secureROM
How dumb would we all be if it was a totally different program (that was a joke im not calling any of us dumb)
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One SM cannot suddenly dictate what IS and ISN'T ok on the BBS. She has stated that we are free to state our opinions in a non-agressive manner. Many people who have done just that have been banned, seemingly for only contradicting with her stickied post.
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Actually, not just "seemingly". It's exactly what she's been doing. She made a post called "Why posts are being locked and deleted", stating, amongst other things:
"The post at the top of this board is not opinion people, it's fact, there's a difference.
You are free on here to express your opinion that you are frustrated with the situation, you are not free to express your opinion as if it were fact and continue the spread of false information and allegations against EA.
Those that continue to post information that contradicts the facts, and refuse to stop, are receiving one week bans from participation without further notice, pursuant to the conduct warning at the top of this board. (underlining mine) So if you have an opinion, feel free to express it in a respectful fashion, but if you are going to start posting about how wrong we are about the facts, please keep it to yourself, there are several other forums that will welcome your angst against the machine, this isn't one of them."
All I have to say on this that (hopefully) won't get me banned, TheCallums, is that I totally agree with everything you said in your post.
Edited to underline.
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Actually, not just "seemingly". It's exactly what she's been doing. She made a post called "Why posts are being locked and deleted", stating, amongst other things:
"The post at the top of this board is not opinion people, it's fact, there's a difference.
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It can't be fact since she's talking about something entirely different (we're talking about securom, she's talking about securerom). [just to be clearer: I'm not referring to you Chandra9901, but to SMBurpie's quote]
SMBurpie: you really should be ashamed of yourself.
You don't want us to be spreading "misinformation" and "lies", which is terribly hypocritical of you. Double check your own facts when posting, because I'm sure you've confused a lot of "not-so-with-it" people ( to put it nicely) by calling SecuROM something completely different. No wonder they can't find the help they need - YOU are giving them the wrong info to start with.
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Actually, it us usually unacceptable and unprofessional for ANY moderator (generally speaking) to impose their own rules. At least not without some sort of announcement by the head administration outlining what can and cannot be done.
As a moderator, the job is to keep peace and take care of unruly posts. In the event that you have to defend your actions, you probably shouldn't do it or if you have to, DO NOT BE MEAN ABOUT IT. I say this because more than likely there will always be at least 1 person who doesn't like the way you run things. And if they catch you in a weak moment, you'll spout off crap that you're not supposed to and your actions will put your job in question.
I'm sure there's some sort of moderator's forum around here and in it there's probably some sort of outline on what they're only allowed to say, what to say, when to say it, etc. assuming that there is, when the SM makes the post, just don't push any buttons when you do. Common sense.
My issue with SM Burpie is that she's making rookie mistakes in the worst ways. If this isn't her first administration position, I'm surprised. This not now how moderator's are to carry themselves. There's something to live by as an administrator: Respect, dignity, and honor. If you can't do this, then... And for the record, yes I am speaking from experience.
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Thanks Baskar, but you can stop dictating to me how you think I should do my job, please and spanx 
Rookie?  Moi??
I've been a moderator for The Sims since the first game dude, like over 4 years now, and in fact I was selected for the job specifically because of the attitude I have that you and some others seem so offended by.
This is not a paid position, I am not a representative of EA, I am a volunteer simmer on this site, I can make jokes, I can talk to people, I can do exactly the same things that you can do, I just happen to have some extra buttons to use is all, and I can throw food fights
Seriously, how's about I start telling all you that you aren't allowed to make jokes, have fun, or act in any way on this site that I might deem "unprofessional" . . . how would that be?
. . . pretty sucky for sure me thinks
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MyrtoPlayer is speaking the truth! SM Burpie is just trying to help everyone. It's not right to go on riots about SecuROM issues, that's wht threads are being locked.
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Because she's being violent!!!! and Unfair!
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SM Burpie may be trying to be helpful, however her / his tone in the last few posts I've read has not been in the least bit helpful.. infact I'd go as far as to say they sounded somewhat confrontational, sarcastic (not in a funny way) and down right rude on occasion.
Granted, he / she is not a paid EA / Maxis employee and nothing more than an empowered volunteer (by his / her own admission), however that's no excuse for someone with a degree of "official capacity" to go off on a personal rant, or crusade even, "yelling and screaming" at people and using that semi-official capactiy to lock threads and ban people. That's not the kind of attitude and conduct I'd expect from a moderator, official or otherwise.. it's no better than the regular unofficial posters she / he seems to be speaking out against.
But that's just my opinion based on what I've read here in the last hour.
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For the last freaking time, the post that is at the top of this board outlines the FACTS of SecureROM AS GIVEN TO ME BY EA ON SATURDAY NIGHT.
As of Saturday night, that was the factual information available from the EA Tech Team, which is also working with the Sony Tech Team.
Since those are the two companies involved in the conflict issue, I'm figuring they might have a clue what they're talking about, but apparently that's just me, I'm just a lackie idiot.
Am I saying that it may still be accurate at this point? No. At the time it was posted, and as far as I know to this very moment in time, it is the FACTS about SecureROM.
Just as the world was proven to be round rather than flat, it is entirely possible that as more information is gathered and processed, the facts that applied on Saturday night and are currently standing, may prove to be inaccurate, but they are still FACT as of this moment, directly from the source.
As for the bannings. Those that were banned were banned because they refused to stop spreading information that is KNOWN for a FACT to be false, such as the myth that this version of SecureROM is malicious. Nor would they stop making allegations against EA that they have acted illegally. They were given more than ample opportunity to stop doing that and they refused, so they were banned.
What exactly would you have us do? Let them continue causing mass hysteria on the boards? We can't allow that, so we asked them to stop, many many times, and they continued, so they are gone.
It has absolutely nothing to do with people agreeing or disagreeing with the facts or asking questions, there's a huge difference between disagreeing with the facts and launching an opinion-filled tirade about how right you think you are and how stupid we are, and the constant implications that folks will get banned for disagreeing with the facts or asking questions is beyond stupid.
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I'm sorry but I have sat back and read everything involved with this Securerom (sry if splled wrong) issue since returning home from gall bladder surgery last week. I have kept my comments to myself but I can no longer do that. This piracy software is on my computer as I have installed BV when it came out. My computer has been acting funny although I can still burn cd's and I DO feel for every and anyone having other issues with this. I feel that people only want some type of response from EA/Maxis since it was stated that the company is concerned yet, there's no response from them. People want info on this issue from other reliable sources with proof only because it is our right to know as consumers exactly what we have on our computers whether it's seen by anyone as simply piracy software or something else. We have that right to know. I will probably get banned for this but we are alqyas told to watch our caps..............SimMaster Burpie.................could you please change your caps as they may be seen as yelling. I understand your frustration but aren't we all supposed to abide by the rules? As well as saying that anyone who thinks that threads being banned because of their opinon is beyond stupid. These are upsetting times on the BBS but, yelling and name calling (even if it was unintentional) is wrong. Rules are rules. I hope more information and not speculation comes out soon. happy simming
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I'm sorry but I have sat back and read everything involved with this Securerom (sry if splled wrong) issue since returning home from gall bladder surgery last week. I have kept my comments to myself but I can no longer do that. This piracy software is on my computer as I have installed BV when it came out. My computer has been acting funny although I can still burn cd's and I DO feel for every and anyone having other issues with this. I feel that people only want some type of response from EA/Maxis since it was stated that the company is concerned yet, there's no response from them. People want info on this issue from other reliable sources with proof only because it is our right to know as consumers exactly what we have on our computers whether it's seen by anyone as simply piracy software or something else. We have that right to know. I will probably get banned for this but we are alqyas told to watch our caps..............SimMaster Burpie.................could you please change your caps as they may be seen as yelling. I understand your frustration but aren't we all supposed to abide by the rules? As well as saying that anyone who thinks that threads being banned because of their opinon is beyond stupid. These are upsetting times on the BBS but, yelling and name calling (even if it was unintentional) is wrong. Rules are rules. I hope more information and not speculation comes out soon. happy simming:-)
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I hear what your saying Akooky,
I am sure that EA will be providing an official statement as soon as they are able to. If people are assuming that because they haven't seen anything official from EA, that they're not doing anything, that is absolutely not true.
In fact, in all my years moderating, I've never seen EA so upset over an issue as they are about this, they are doing absolutely everything to resolve it, they have a special team working around the clock, we just all need to be patient and wait.
Also realize too that they can't just make a post like we do. They need to get approval for whatever statement they're going to issue, which requires time as well.
I hope this helps
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Deleting my post about YOUR spelling mistakes doesn't change the fact that you are spreading lies and misinformation of your own.
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guys please calm down with the anti-burpie comments. he/she (sorry don't know) is doing their 'job' the best they can. There's no need to be argumentative.
SecuRO-wha?
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If this is their "job" then they need to get their own facts straight before telling the rest of us to do so.
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Deleting my post about YOUR spelling mistakes doesn't change the fact that you are spreading lies and misinformation of your own.
I think many people would appreciate you editing that mistake as well. How can anyone research information on their own if the right name of the program involved is not in use?
It's SecuRom 7 people. And there is a differance in versions so don't leave that out when you google.
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Deleting my post about YOUR spelling mistakes doesn't change the fact that you are spreading lies and misinformation of your own.
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Your post was deleted because it was absolutely rude, and you are banned from participation because of it, and you can now add your accusation that I am spreading lies as one of the reasons why you are banned for a week.
Quite frankly the fact that there is no "e" in the name did indeed get lost on me . . . something about dealing with all the crap you and some others keep dishing out . . . sorry but the "e" really isn't a priority for me.
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 they should call you " Ms. Banner" for banning 1/4 of the simmers(not really)
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For the last freaking time, the post that is at the top of this board outlines the FACTS of SecureROM AS GIVEN TO ME BY EA ON SATURDAY NIGHT.
As of Saturday night, that was the factual information available from the EA Tech Team, which is also working with the Sony Tech Team.
Since those are the two companies involved in the conflict issue, I'm figuring they might have a clue what they're talking about, but apparently that's just me, I'm just a lackie idiot.
Am I saying that it may still be accurate at this point? No. At the time it was posted, and as far as I know to this very moment in time, it is the FACTS about SecureROM.
Just as the world was proven to be round rather than flat, it is entirely possible that as more information is gathered and processed, the facts that applied on Saturday night and are currently standing, may prove to be inaccurate, but they are still FACT as of this moment, directly from the source.
As for the bannings. Those that were banned were banned because they refused to stop spreading information that is KNOWN for a FACT to be false, such as the myth that this version of SecureROM is malicious. Nor would they stop making allegations against EA that they have acted illegally. They were given more than ample opportunity to stop doing that and they refused, so they were banned.
What exactly would you have us do? Let them continue causing mass hysteria on the boards? We can't allow that, so we asked them to stop, many many times, and they continued, so they are gone.
It has absolutely nothing to do with people agreeing or disagreeing with the facts or asking questions, there's a huge difference between disagreeing with the facts and launching an opinion-filled tirade about how right you think you are and how stupid we are, and the constant implications that folks will get banned for disagreeing with the facts or asking questions is beyond stupid.
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Thank you for your kind and courteous reply.
First, EA may have given you information about SecuROM. But, what you seem to overlook is that EA and Sony are handing out the information THEY WANT people to know about it not what is really happening. They are trying to sell products. Sony is trying to sell SecuROM to any company that produces and distributes software. EA is trying to sell games. What THEY say should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt considering the massive number of people who have had issues with SecuROM (and not just in the Sim gaming community but in the gaming community as a whole).
Secondly, yes, the world was proven to be round. True, there are always new facts emerging about something. Have you and everyone else here who is pro-EA, pro-Sony and pro-SecuROM not given any thought to the fact that at some point both companies may do a backturn and finally be FORCED to admit they've been providing us with untrue information all this time. Have you thought that the future might show us that the SecuROM world is round and not flat?
Thirdly, the people who are taking the most flack on this board are the people who are actually telling the truth about SecuROM--not the people who are buying into the company hype. They are being accused of being liars, trouble-makers, etc. They are being libeled on this board for sake of selling a few more defective games.
Fourth, what would I have EAxis do? I'd have them take SecuROM off the game, recall and redistribute a new copy of the game that does not include that malicious program to each and every person who bought and registered the game. And Not just BV and H&M. They need to do that with every single game they have manufactured and sold with SecuROM, whether it is a Sim game or not.
They DID NOT notify anyone that SecuROM was being installed on thier computers BEFORE installation. Many states have laws against companies putting software onto users computers without their knowledge. That is exactly what EA and Sony have done. Is violating those laws legal?
Finally, you say in your post that people have been "launching an opinion-filled tirade about how right you think you are and how stupid we are". Wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
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And aren't you a clever little SimMaster for avoiding the general angst about the inappropriateness of your stickied post and yet you're still able to bring the forum to task for the inappropriateness of their posts. The problem is that power was given to you and you lack the basic ability to handle it justly and responsibly. Me, I would recommend that you either step away form the forum and gain a little perspective or retire from your position and then you can post all of the "shut up unless you agree with me" posts you like...well, at least until a SimMaster comes along and bans you for flaming and creating a riot. If I and my fellow members must maintain a certain level of decorum on the BBS then you have got to realize you are held to a higher standard because of your position and I'm pretty sure that threatening us, jokingly or not, doesn't meet that standard.
Also, it was pointed out that the piracy protection software is called SecuROM and not SecureROM...that's why folks are saying that you're not addressing the correct issue and that's one of the reasons your facts are wrong. Read more, react less.
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No problems with Burpie.
She has a great sense of humour and is a welcome moderator on this website.
I have read all her posts and none of them personally attack people like they are doing back to her.
Hopefully this whole mess will not result in her getting fed up and leaving.
As far as spelling goes if you can't figure out that it refers to the same thing then you probably don't have a clue what this is all about in the first place.
Hang in there Burpie.
note: I do own a legal copy and am having no issues with my computer.
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Why can't anyone be nice? because of some stupid bug maxis overlooked makes everyone insecure and hostile is so stupid, I'm not ranting becuase I don't care. But when people can be rude to people who try to help... well that's just sad, especially when turning on each other. Reply all you want if you disagree, I don't care.
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Bottom line is:
The irony that SecuROM won't stop the piracy, and that all peeps with the probs are the ones that bought legit games.
Tut tut......how disgusting:-sick
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Bene to you. That's exactly right.
All of us who did the honest thing and bought the game are now paying dearly for it. And I mean paying in every sense of the word.
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Why can't anyone be nice? because of some stupid bug maxis overlooked makes everyone insecure and hostile is so stupid, I'm not ranting becuase I don't care. But when people can be rude to people who try to help... well that's just sad, especially when turning on each other. Reply all you want if you disagree, I don't care. :-)
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Securom is not a bug. They put it in on purpose. It's supposed to be an anti-piracy product. People are mad because it is doing other things, and from what I've heard doesn't even do what it's supposed to do really well.
In response to a comment made by SM Burpie about us being mad about her making jokes: This is a serious issue. People's computers are breaking. If you can not handle this without jokes let someone else handle it.
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Bug? What bug? The NPC spawning bug? None of this is about that at all. It's about Securom causing issues with many peoples legal software, legal machines, legal games and legal hardware. Then being told that it is not Seurom at all, even to those people who have proof that it is, especially the ones who have taken their problems to shops and the Arm-chair Techs who are not just arm chair techs but Real Techs with certification who play the game. To a person who does not know much about computers and the ones to who Securom true removal is beyond them, this is permanent damage to them, because they-themselves can not get it off and have to bring it to a shop that can.
People who do know what they are talking about, who have gotten information from official sources and who are REAL TECHS are being called liars. Even the ones repeating information from EA tech help are being called liars. People who have experienced problems are being call liars.
The world in indeed round and the TRUTH of Today, may not be the Truth of Tomorrow. My take on the matter? What is the official truth being used Today, hmm?
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But when people can be rude to people who try to help... well that's just sad, especially when turning on each other.
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I don't think it is actually helping. There are more angry and hurt simmers over the various comments one SM has made - on top of the SecuRom problem. It doesn't actually help the situation if people are having problems and they feel like the forum where they turn to for support is letting a SM get nasty with people, no matter how many smilies there are.
There are other SMs helping, and there are no threads about them - they have been engaged in normal conversations.
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Oh you people are just impossible. Is there absolutely nothing, nothing, that you won't make into an angry argument? A flippin "e" . . . are you kidding me???
I'm spelling a word incorrectly and that somehow translates to me being an incompetent moron? You guys are unbelievable!
I guess y'all just ignored the fact that the way I'm spelling it is actually the correct spelling for the word "secure" but hey, whatever, apparently I should have picked up that the proper spelling is the wrong spelling 
THIS is exactly why the board is a mess.
THIS is exactly why threads are getting locked.
THIS is exactly why people are getting banned.
Clearly some of you have nothing better to do than stir the pot around here so this thread is getting shut down.
For those that are communicating respectfully and politely in here, thank you very much, and I'm sorry if I missed your question but seriously, I can't do this anymore, I need Calgon
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