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Title: Big problem
Post by: annika on February 15, 2009, 06:00:24 pm
Hi all!

I have a huge problem, my game crash everytime I download and install new cc. I removed everything I downloaded around the time when the problem started, but it still crashes. I even reinstalled the entire game, but nothing seems to work. I beg on my bare knees for help!!!!! Thanks...


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: amc462000 on February 15, 2009, 06:40:01 pm
Possibly you are downloading custom content that is incompatible with your game. What expansion packs & stuff packs do you have?


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: kinnika on February 16, 2009, 09:04:55 am
Are your drivers updated? That may have something to do with it.

I had problems with how much RAM I had. I couldn't run the game with how little my computer had.


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: annika on February 16, 2009, 05:53:09 pm
Hi guys and thanks for replying :)

I have all expansion packs and stuff packs.

My computer is relatively new with 2.13Ghz and 3GB ram. I don´t know if that helps...

A big 2hug to all of you that´s helping me


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: amc462000 on February 16, 2009, 06:10:03 pm
how much available storage memory (hard drive space) does it have? and what operating system is it using?


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: annika on February 17, 2009, 05:49:07 am
372gb with 313 available, I use windows xp.


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: MaryH on February 17, 2009, 06:28:32 am
If your memory numbers are those, it should be more than adequate to run the game without crashing.
But it really sounds like something might be wrong in your computer config, and that's interfering with the game. It should run without all the CC installed. Why it does not is a mystery.
I'd look at your drivers, as someone else suggested.


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: amc462000 on February 17, 2009, 07:17:39 am
ok, how far into loading, or playing, does the game crash?


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: annika on February 17, 2009, 07:45:13 am
It crash when I enter buymode, the lounger section. It does work fine when I remove my downloadfolder. Again a BIG thanks to all of you for helping me 2hug


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: rwills on February 17, 2009, 07:45:57 pm
If the problem does not occur when there is no Downloads folder, and does occur when there is a Downloads folder, then there is one or more items in the Downloads folder that are incompatible, in conflict or otherwise at fault. You will have to cull through your downloads and remove the culprit(s). There is no quick and easy way to immediately pinpoint such item(s) (though if you know after what date the problem came up, that can help in narrowing down the hunt to items installed on or after that date). Follow the guidance here:

http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Finding_Problem_Custom_Content


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: annika on February 19, 2009, 04:57:16 am
I have tried that, and I have deleted alot of what I have downloaded. But the problem starts when I download new things. Some works fine while others don´t. This is what makes me confused.


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: amc462000 on February 19, 2009, 07:45:24 am
ok. If you download something that is incompatible with your game, it will make your game crash. When you download something, be sure to read everything at the site that the creator wrote about it, like what ep's or sp's are required or that they have in their game, and if you don't have those also, don't download it. Some things will make your game crash even if you have the same ep's or sp's, such as careers or food.


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: annika on February 19, 2009, 06:29:24 pm
ok, it´s official..i´m going crazy 4gah I removed all hacks and food, game still crash...Is there no end to my personal hell 1headwall


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: rwills on February 19, 2009, 07:44:25 pm
There is no substitute for following the guidance given at the link above. Especially in following the 50% method as outlined there.

It may not be a hack, or food. For example, if one installs a house with a Seasons-compatible refrigerator in it and has only pre-Seasons games  installed, then having that object in the game could cause a crash.

Winnowing the content of the Downloads folder down using the 50% method is time consuming, but tried and true for isolating problematic files and getting rid of them.

One other thing to mention is to use Clean Installer to scan your Downloads folder, then sort the listing by Type and if any items are listed under Type as Collection, move those to your Collections folder. In some cases, collection files in the Downloads folder can crash the game.

Clean Installer is a necessity, IMHO, especially for installing just the parts of lots that you actually want or need and also just the parts of custom Sims that you actually want or need, as well as for finding and removing duplicate files and empty package files which serve only to bloat the Downloads folder.

Clean Installer: http://sims2pack.modthesims2.com/

Also, if you have files you've downloaded other than .package files in your Downloads folder, remove them. They don't belong there.

This last is rather elementary, but just in case -- to view and use many custom objects, you have to have CEP installed. If you don't already, it is here:

http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=92541


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: Charley on February 19, 2009, 07:46:13 pm
Have you taken your whole downloads folder or just hacks? You need to take the whole thing out and start putting bit in piece by piece, tedious but it will solve your problem!

Char
xxx


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: annika on February 20, 2009, 08:29:53 am
I have all eps and sps, so I don´t think that´s the problem. I did use the 50% method and removed the files that was causing problem, but when I downloaded something new it started to crash again, thats what make me so puzzled. I use the clean installer and I have CEP installed.

Char, I will definitely try that too.       


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: GroovyGran on February 22, 2009, 05:14:05 pm
Hi Annika, You are probably being too impatient (one of my downfalls) and trying to add too much at once.
Here's what I do. You will have to probably start from the beginning! have you got a backup of your game when you first installed it/ (with all your expansions etc. This is very important! Many times I have had to instal them all again, and it takes sooooo long.
I keep 2 folders in my folder called (Sims 2 Backup (DO NOT DELETE) (that's because my hubby goes on clening things up!)
One is called Sims 2 Backup (NO CUSTOM CONTENT) and the other is just called Sims 2. Inside each of these folders is "The Sims 2" Folder copied from (my documents/ea games/ the sims 2) At least in that way if the worst happens, I don't have to install them all again. Once I start from scratch I make another folder inside my downloads folder called "NEW" if the game crashes after putting new custom content into the folder, you will know it is one of the files in that folder that is corrupt. just take it out again and put half the new stuff back and half the others in another folder, maybe called (TEST) and keep halving and putting back until you find the corrupt file. I you have not added too much at a time it will not be a problem

Good Luck

Gran


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: annika on March 09, 2009, 11:30:32 am
Is there a limit to how much you can put in your downloadsfolder?


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: kinnika on March 10, 2009, 07:58:29 am
If there is, I've probably gone over it, lol. I must have hundreds of downloads. In fact, I'm surprised how much people have much more than ME even in there. But this is a good question...

How much do you have out of curiosity?


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: annika on March 10, 2009, 08:06:37 am
Ehh....6 gb... :-[ ;D


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: moo-moo on March 10, 2009, 11:57:45 am
i used to have a similar problem with my old computer because it was rubbish i couldnt put any cc on it and then when i uninstalled and reinstalled my game only objects would work and eventually my walls were bright red and would flash all because of low memory so i had it upgraded and it worked fine
but i have a new comp now and it runs even better


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: amc462000 on March 10, 2009, 07:24:27 pm
Ok is it still crashing at the same point, when you are in buy and go to the lounger section?  or does it do it at other places now?


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: kinnika on March 11, 2009, 09:40:26 am
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only objects would work and eventually my walls were bright red and would flash
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I hate that. Mine flash blue, and I'm still trying to correct this problem, but I'm not really sure why that is. I think I have corrupted CC or something. Only lots from the neighborhood view do this.


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Ehh....6 gb...

Oh, heck, I'm far from danger, then... I hope, lol.


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Winnowing the content of the Downloads folder down using the 50% method is time consuming, but tried and true for isolating problematic files and getting rid of them.

As rwills says, this is very true. Also, though, at some point (and I repeat this all the time, so forgive me if any of you have heard this before) this also is very helpful... time consuming also, but I am very glad I did it:

http://www.sims2wiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Organizing_Custom_Content

Before and after organizing (and after your game starts to play correctly again), this is what I do to help steer me in the direction of any future bad seeds I download. And I know how shopping for Sims can be. Once you get a few things - it can easily turn into a shopping spree. But I download them (only a few at a time) into a specific folder in the Downloads folder titled with the current date (The Sims 2 > Downloads > 3-11-09). I only download a few at a time into that specific folder. Rather than filtering through floating files in my downloads (which I can't subfolder) looking for the corrupt file, I know exactly where to find it.


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: annika on March 11, 2009, 03:01:56 pm
Yes it is still crashing in the lounger section. I have divided all my downloads into different folders, the strange thing is that the game crash when I have all my downloads in the game. If I remove one or two of the folders from the game it will work again, and it doesn´t matter wich of them I take out. God, that sounded complicated  :p I don´t get it, I never had problems like this before...I do clean out my downloads from time to time, so things I don´t use take up space.


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: amc462000 on March 11, 2009, 08:06:08 pm
you never remove the same subfolder twice?


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: annika on March 12, 2009, 11:25:05 am
No, I wanted to try and see if it was a specific subfolder, but it didn´t matter as long as all the subfolders wasn´t in the downloads at the same time.


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: caffeinated.joy on March 12, 2009, 11:31:56 am
Hi guys and thanks for replying :)

I have all expansion packs and stuff packs.

My computer is relatively new with 2.13Ghz and 3GB ram. I don´t know if that helps...


Are you running XP or Vista? If it's Vista then there's your problem right there. Vista requires you have a 2.4 ghz processor


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: annika on March 12, 2009, 06:51:22 pm
I have xp. What do you guys think? Is it my computer or is it the game? It feels like I have tried everything, except throwing my computer into the ocean :-\


Title: Re: Big problem
Post by: Razamataz on March 20, 2009, 08:23:09 am
Yes it is still crashing in the lounger section. I have divided all my downloads into different folders, the strange thing is that the game crash when I have all my downloads in the game.

You Have a bad Lounger file! I had the same thing with a dresser. anytime you open that one section in buy mode and you get a crash Thats usualy an Item in that section. Try Doing this run the Cheat boolprop testingcheatsenabled true. then go to your buy mode lounge chairs. Yes I know it will crash but you should get a error log Made in your Logs folder for the exact time and date of the crash. reading though that might list the file causing this problem.


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