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Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Missaldith on June 30, 2008, 08:50:36 am
I wonder why anyone would pay for Maxis items when they can download free awesome stuff from talented creators on the net???
Maxis will release the new Sims 3 next year so why make an effort in making new stuff if we soon won`t be able to use it with the new game??. Well, that was just some thoughts and I think it`s all about money, don`t you??

http://thesims2store.ea.com/index.html?categoryId=10473&index=0


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Dec12741 on June 30, 2008, 09:11:40 am
Missaldith you have a point there,but also have you noticed that there is no word if people who buy the Sims 3 will be able to down load stuff and install it into the game to make it more fun we will just have to wait and see


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Missaldith on June 30, 2008, 03:12:48 pm
Yes, I love the sims 2 as it is now and if we are not able to do the same things with sims 3 I´m not buying it


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: MaryH on June 30, 2008, 03:16:49 pm
They're overpricing everything by about 100% and then some-I've gotten far better quality for free here, at MTS, and other places-plus the fact that they're probably loading SecuRom into the download you just paid for..beware of this ploy to get your money and into your computer, is all I say.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: X-Phile on July 01, 2008, 07:55:03 am
The Exclusive items are already on the internet.
For Free.:shh: If you look well enough even on some
sims 2 community sites.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Missaldith on July 01, 2008, 10:36:32 am
Exactly and again I want to thank all creators of cc.
You make The Sims much more fun to play with. Your free work is priceless.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Dec12741 on July 01, 2008, 03:30:09 pm
Just to let everyone here know that the Sims 2 Store is not what seems,you have to download the EADM,then you have to pay for those Items with a Credit Card,it is a bunch of BS(sorry about that)


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Tenshii~Akari on July 01, 2008, 05:44:39 pm
Wait.

They're selling stuff from previous EPs and SPs also... :eh:

P*ssed does NOT touch the surface of how mad I am at the moment.  CHEAP BASTARDS...  :angryfir:

('scuse me there... but after everything they've done recently, respect on my end for them has reached negatives.  :roll:)


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: J00wish on July 01, 2008, 08:22:01 pm
Also... it adds SecuROM to your computer. Even the free stuff does. *sigh*


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: rebecah on July 01, 2008, 09:36:11 pm
I heard that Sims 3 will require an internet connection to play, sort of like the EA Link Store works, when you purchase an EP or stuff pack.  I've purchased a couple this way and will never do so again.  

Personally, I feel EA has hired some people with very bad business sense.  The securom garbage has made me decide to never purchase another game from EA.  Unless they get their head back on straight and get rid of that garbage.

Concerning the new store ... it's just plain crazy.  Who in their right mind would purchase things like this for $4 or $5 each item.  That's just nuts.

The greed at EA is some of the worst I've ever seen.  Sad!  They used to have a good thing, but not anymore.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Tenshii~Akari on July 01, 2008, 09:51:41 pm
Ah, yes... mustn't forget the icing on the cake.  SecuRom makes ALL things from EA gooder. (not a spelling error... it's intended.)  :lol:

Back after lurking some more and doing some "research".  While I have no problems with them actually selling their own content, the sheer fact that they have the gall to go back and re-sell content already in EPs/SPs rubs me the wrong way.  Sure, it's good for the people who held off on getting those packs because they only wanted certain items, but for those people who did have to spend money on those packs just for the items, imagine how cheated some of them must feel right about now upon hearing about this.  I'll still say they're cheap for doing that much.  The items they have up aren't worth a dollar a piece, or whatever they have them set at.  :angry7:

Also, they made sure you can't edit the stuff, either.  I read on MATY someone tried to export a project with said content in Bodyshop and try to open one of those files in SimPE with absolutely no luck.  And seeing how borked some of those files are from a few screenshots, I'm not impressed that people won't be able to fix them.  That means either EA plans on doing that themselves (and making people pay to re-download the fixed copy), or just leaving it like it is and silently tell people to suck it up.  :lol:

It's sad that they truly don't get it.  They think they do, but they're way off.  And as hateful as it sounds, I hope it tanks just like EA Land and Sims Online did... but knowing how many people remain oblivious to how EA is (or know, but continue to have faith in them) I worry a bit that it may not happen.  :?


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: MaryH on July 01, 2008, 10:19:07 pm
What is even worse to contemplate is that this is probably a "dry-run" for the Sims 3 content..where EA will control all the content, and will not allow any to make it out of their grasp.
That they're using SecuRom in their downloads for this stuff does not bode well for any future content coming from Sims 3.
They're flogging a very dead horse-and they have no idea that the simmers out there are getting tired of being used as wallets, not customers.
There are other games from EA whose players are getting very tired of their errant stupidity-Spore is going to be released soon, and it has nasty things in it-and you can bet they're going to sell that on line.
They must have Gordon Gecko's motto inscribed on their walls:
 "Greed is Good!"
They live by it, and their company will die by it.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: eccentricgnat on July 02, 2008, 12:31:33 am
Hi,

I wish I could show the link for this, but I can't remember if it was on an Eaxis board or where.  But someone had a link to a chat board, (I think the link was from MATY) maybe the new stores?  Anyway, they added up what it would all cost, clothes, furniture, etc to get the securerom   filled stuff...it was over $1,300.00. What is with these folks.  By the way, my understanding is you buy chits or what ever you want to call them, like for the Wii...then you can buy the items.  If an item cost 100 points...that equals one dollar. I think most of the stuff is around 100 points...but I could be wrong...got the info from whatever chat board I was at.  Sheee....my stroked out brain is on the true blitz...hmmmmm


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Pierre on July 02, 2008, 05:24:09 am
I agree with you at 100%


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Ghost Archer on July 02, 2008, 06:33:08 am
I like to help people over on Yahoo Answers by giving informative responses.  I tend to keep within my area of expertise and this happens to include Sims 2.  The reason this whole store idea will work is that there are far too many innocent Sims players that believe EA Games is the only source for custom content.  Looks like I am going to have to redouble my efforts to steer the uninformed to great places like InSimenator.  The added bonus is that for each one I do, maybe EA loses a buck or two.  One can but hope.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: lewisb40 on July 02, 2008, 09:50:51 am
I don't think this project of EA will last long. With sites offering the items for free, simmers are flocking there to get them, I wonder how long will they last? The only good thing on there were a few hair styles (surprise I said good) and I got them now.  Didn't pay a penny on them, wasn't gonna buy anything anyway.

The objects are tiled wrong and change to older objects when placed diagonal, I don't think they will fix it either.  Ha, poor people/sheeple will buy this and find it disgusting. Don't matter to EA, they got the money anyway, and Securom on their computers to boot.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: TashaFaun on July 02, 2008, 02:40:53 pm
I hope they burn. After everything I've gone through with the beta store I hope it never gets passed that. The prices are outrageous, the material sub-par and they are treating their customers like pirates because they think they have something so valuable to protect its worth ruining people's property. I feel sorry for the BBS sheeple who think that what EA is doing is ok. I've seen way too many threads over there with that exact sentiment.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: The T on July 03, 2008, 05:05:07 am
I asked 'can I recolor stuff from the store ?' at this thread on BBS (http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?&openItemID=item.2,item.43,item.127,item.23&threadID=6b01f6b4981a88030f06c7a7d4599893&directoryID=2&startRow=1) and a lot of people said that they can not recolor them because bodyshop can not export them.

That is sad because I like a few cloth meshes and want to recolor them.

I am in Thailand so I can not buy them, but I plan to get them. Unfortunately this makes me change my mind because if I buy it I want to be able to recolor it.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: HollyD1983 on July 04, 2008, 08:32:48 am
I really don't have a problem with Maxis selling their own content,after all,aren't stuff packs just the same thing? I guess that's just my opinion:angel:I use Maxis only items in my game,even though there are some wonderful and very talented CC creators out there,the main reason is that it seems like my game hates anything that is a new mesh;and I just want to play it,I don't care what is in my Simmie's houses.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: EKozski on July 04, 2008, 08:54:42 am
I found this on the Sims BB. It's rather interesting. This person was pointing something out to a bunch of people.

Apparently none of you read the agreement that you signed to register with the store, and that none of you read my complaint to SM Lisa about that agreement?
When you hit the "I Agree" button you agreed to buy the license to use that one item - not the item itself, just a license to use it.

You also agreed to put that item on just 1 computer shared by no one. You agreed if you give that item to someone else that you must remove everything about that item from your pc.

You agree to give EA and their 3rd parties access to your computer to update the items, Securom on your pc and on every item, on the installer, and to update games, patches and everything else connected to that item.

If at any time EA finds you have violated any of the parts in this agreement they will revoke your license. Apparently the item will just vanish and also your game might as well because that license ties in with your game and basically says YOU do not own any of it - EA does and it is a violation of their rule to alter the items in any way whatsoever without EA's pre-approval. There was a lot more - but you folks can all thank EA and their use of Securom for getting total control over your pc.

And you people REALLY - really need to read things before you click I agree. Had you read it you would not be asking or guessing as it was all there.

I went one further, I copied and pasted it to my notepad and sent a copy to my copyright attorney to see if that was even legal - because also according to that thing is EA can revoke all your licenses anytime they see fit for any reason they see fit.

It's like you can be playing your game and then poof it's gone, or the next time you go online they can revoke your license if you post recolors or any of that stuff any where. I think they need to specify because we all write stories with pictures and post them - will that be a violation too?

I wonder how long we have before the exchange has Securom too?


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Tenshii~Akari on July 04, 2008, 09:24:03 am
Quote from: BBSer

It's like you can be playing your game and then poof it's gone, or the next time you go online they can revoke your license if you post recolors or any of that stuff any where. I think they need to specify because we all write stories with pictures and post them - will that be a violation too?

I wonder how long we have before the exchange has Securom too?
:rofl:  I often think of that myself.

Funny... maybe I should check the EULA that I agreed to and see if that's up there too... seeing as I never agreed to the EULA of the downloader they're talking about.  For some odd reason, I don't remember them saying anything about the third-party access in the older games... I'm going back now to check that fine print again.  Who knows, maybe I accidentally sold my soul in the process without realizing it.  Things can be tricky, I tell ya.  :lol:


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: lewisb40 on July 05, 2008, 07:12:43 am
I think the PC gaming arena needs a little regulating, although I wonder if contacting our representatives in the Congress or contacting our reps in the Senate will help. I guess I have to try it out. Can't contact my Senator, he's running for President. :D


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Captain_Shepard on July 06, 2008, 11:01:52 am
Quote from: lewisb40;1294125
I think the PC gaming arena needs a little regulating, although I wonder if contacting our representatives in the Congress or contacting our reps in the Senate will help. I guess I have to try it out. Can't contact my Senator, he's running for President. :D


Bringing politics to video games has never worked well , see that Thompson game hater?
Anyway It seems EA wants to become the main shark of the video-game industry but I can assure that they won't! Thank god there's Microsoft Studios that can provide high quality stuff and always tries to solve the player's problem. There also other companies that will stand agaisn't EA because they know what happened to Maxis for example or other teams that were bought by EA, the game quality dropped quickly and the support becamed almost 0.

So I ain't spending my money on them!


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: CuriousSimmer on July 08, 2008, 02:15:10 pm
The EA store is a little absurd, given that most of the stuff they're selling is from previous games, and the rest are so buggy that they're beyond use. For instance, the one-tile-window art deco drapes take up two tiles, as does an end table that only appears to take up one tile.

I didn't realize there was Securom on the files, too; that makes me nervous. After all the uproar, I can't believe they're still attaching Securom to everything that moves. Dirty pool, Eaxis, dirty pool.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: cubanjew on July 11, 2008, 01:44:11 pm
wtf? how did i not know that the day that The Sims 2 totally would go Paysite on us.. doesn't this violate THEIR EULA?

http://thesims2store.ea.com/

i'm fascinated by the idea of being able to get items without the whole pack, but for the most part i'm disgusted by this


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Tenshii~Akari on July 11, 2008, 02:58:55 pm
http://www.insimenator.org/showthread.php?t=85540

Thread already started with the same subject.  ;)  Unfortunately, they can modify their EULA as much as they want, seeing as they're the ones who made it... so it's impossible to violate their own EULA.  :lol:


Title: Sim 2 store
Post by: sackman on July 12, 2008, 07:44:27 pm
Only one thing you need to know about the sims store.... Don't do it! I thought I'd save $10 and download the Goth furnishings from Teen stylefrom the store 2 items did not show in game, contacted ea no response for 1 week, still waiting! They should have got all the bugs out of the beta version before opening the store! Stay away!!!


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: EKozski on July 12, 2008, 07:45:52 pm
There's already a thread started about the Sim's 2 Store on here.


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: Tenshii~Akari on July 13, 2008, 05:04:05 am
^^ In fact, there's already TWO threads about it now, because someone else did the same thing the other day.  Happy third!  :rofl:

Here's the link to the original thread:  http://www.insimenator.org/showthread.php?t=85540


Title: The Sims 2 Store
Post by: HollyD1983 on July 14, 2008, 10:06:10 pm
I downloaded both the store exclusive sets(deco and cubic)and I would have to say that they really aren't worth your money,the cubic set is OK,but Glamour Life came with better items.The deco set is just plain hideous and the size is off for a small house,the greyhound sculpture was lacking decent textures,what a rip off! I feel like Maxis has forgotton about the Sims 2 for the Sims 3:smt120


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