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Title: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Ali on January 12, 2009, 05:12:17 pm
This is not a begging post like we've all been used to and the site will not 1explode if a certain amount of money is not received in the next 2 days!!!111!!!OMG!!EINZ!!11

However

The server costs are $100 a month (at the moment owe 2 months to the current owner) so if you would like to contribute towards those costs then we would be most grateful.

Please rest assured that any money received will NEVER be used for personal gain, will not be put into any personal bank account and will sit in cyber-space until needed for server bills or site upgrades. We will also keep you up to date on what we have in the coffers.

If you do donate, please enter your username where requested so I know who you are to put a button under your name (when I work out how to do it!)

Please use the button on the front page (http://www.insimenator.org/smf/index.php) to donate

thanks guys  2hug



Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: jamesabrown1 on January 12, 2009, 05:31:01 pm
Well, ya know, I never did really mind contributing to the other site, but I wish it had been under more honest disclosure. Let's hope this one doesn't ever get that way, oh it has it's moments of folks full of themselves and, well, downright hostile, but it is still the IS we all love and share. I'm in. Anybody hesitant, feel free to jump in, at least once. Any chance we can boost the server power?


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: jamesabrown1 on January 12, 2009, 05:33:41 pm
Oh well, nevermind my last. Whenever I try, I get a session verification error message. Even after logging out and back in.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: garnet812 on January 12, 2009, 08:41:03 pm
Oh well, nevermind my last. Whenever I try, I get a session verification error message. Even after logging out and back in.


I'm getting the same error.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Brego89 on January 12, 2009, 08:46:33 pm
I did as well. I used to donate as well to the other site on a recurring subscription. Will that be an available option? My memory is atrocious!


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Shonie on January 12, 2009, 09:01:59 pm
How about a donation meter or something to show what's been received and used ect.  And is this still Pescado's server or another one? 

Just a couple of things to put people's mind at rest.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Jenna on January 12, 2009, 10:18:43 pm
So the people will never know that part of the funds will be funneled into Jenna's Booze Fund? Nifty...


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: EVStofleth on January 12, 2009, 11:53:04 pm
I need a coffee fund along with a booze fund too  ;D


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: jamesabrown1 on January 13, 2009, 05:31:32 am
Once PayPal is up I think it is up to you Brego. You can always just set up a regular monthly on the PP site for anyone, vendor or otherwise. At least, I think that is the case.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Ali on January 13, 2009, 07:30:43 am
I'm not quite sure how the monthly sub thing works, I'll look into it

currently we are on a server belonging to Dour (WNF) however we are in the process of transferring it to ourselves

Jenna - NO, it does not go to a booze fund 1cheers LMAO

A donation meter is definitely something that I'll put up once I work out how LOL

And folks, teething troubles with paypal apparently, hopefully it won't take too long to work out


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Shonie on January 13, 2009, 12:00:21 pm
And any monies donated here also go to help ISA?


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Inge Jones on January 13, 2009, 12:04:01 pm
Will the funds subsidise Pescado's other sites such as PMBD?


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Paden on January 13, 2009, 12:34:35 pm
No, they will not. See?

Quote
Ali
The server costs are $100 a month (at the moment owe 2 months to the current owner) so if you would like to contribute towards those costs then we would be most grateful.

They will go to pay for our server bills, which are separate from the ones that Pes is using. For proof of this, check the load times on PMBD and here. The little Malaysian boy fell down on the job over there and hasn't gotten up yet, which is why PMBD is running so slow. This is a separate venture altogether, so please tell people that this is for IS and no one else.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Inge Jones on January 13, 2009, 12:37:33 pm
TFTI :)


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Paden on January 13, 2009, 12:41:08 pm
Any time, Inge, any time. :)


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Ali on January 13, 2009, 02:27:12 pm
And any monies donated here also go to help ISA?

the two sites run on the same server ;)


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Nymphy on January 13, 2009, 05:11:24 pm
So costs for the server, which both IS and ISA run on, are $100 a month, and we currently also owe $200 for the previous two months. And the server is currently owned by Dour from WNF and is being transferred completely to Insim people. :)

That is much more information then was previously given by the old site owners during most of the donation drives, in all honestly. Thank you Ali!  :kiss:



Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: jamesabrown1 on January 13, 2009, 05:23:11 pm
Thank you indeed. Ali. I was always a little bothered by the lack of accounting for the funds. Oh well, new pirates, new fun. Making the info available to the contributors makes it easy for those who are able to donate to see whether we are doing enough, or exceeding (hopefully) so that future investment in server power and bandwidth can be purchased. Love the avi, Nymphy. There is nothing wrong with taking in more than is necessary as long as it is used to boost the power of the site, imho. So, whenever you get things worked out with PayPal let us know, or post the vendor details and those of us with existing PayPal accounts can go ahead and try to get you some immediate relief.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Ali on January 14, 2009, 02:57:42 am
hmmmm, I just donated and didn't have a problem

I'm wondering if it has anything to do with being based in the UK 1dunno


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: jamesabrown1 on January 14, 2009, 06:56:58 am
Possibly. I just tried again and got the same verification failed message. In the interval, until it is working, perhaps if we might get the info on how to address the donation on PayPal, perhaps we could go ahead and send some help? I have no idea where to send the donation, I know the old one for the old IS but have no interest whatsoever in sending any money there.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Inge Jones on January 14, 2009, 09:04:45 am
Yes there is nothing wrong with keeping some in reserve or for improvements. But I still think it's good to show when immediate costs have been met, because some people on restricted incomes still like to donate generously if they think their favorite site needs it, and showing a meter will let them know if they don't need to donate again for the time being.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: jamesabrown1 on January 14, 2009, 09:28:05 am
It's twoo, it's twoo. I was remiss, thank you for bringing that up Inge, I should have said that those among us who can might be inclined to give more. However, many (assumption here) may be like me, self-employed, so our income fluctuates wildly sometimes, sort of feast or famine kind of thing. Still, a meter would be a very good thing, that way we can all see where the site stands financially and whether our efforts are sufficient.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: jamesabrown1 on January 14, 2009, 02:41:12 pm
KEWL, it works, it do, it do, it do. (http://images.zwani.com/graphics/animated/images/animated9.gif) .
 
It was a PayPal glitch, thanks to Ali it is working, everybody use the button on the home page, not the one at the start of this thread.
 
Thanks, Ali.
 
Next we'll be needing an option to set up a regular monthly contribution, maybe.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Paden on January 14, 2009, 02:50:46 pm
Do you go by the name Santa, james?? *hug*


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: jamesabrown1 on January 14, 2009, 02:54:15 pm
Not only no but H**L NO. I am not the ho ho ho. Erm, I'm not a poet, either. I'm glad it's working now, I feel like I can do something to help. I'm not so jaded that I'll cop out because of the old site. And, though I spend most of my time programming mainframes, I do understand a thing or three about servers, as well.
 
Edit: Also about server and bandwidth cost.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Brego89 on January 15, 2009, 09:33:08 pm
Once PayPal is up I think it is up to you Brego. You can always just set up a regular monthly on the PP site for anyone, vendor or otherwise. At least, I think that is the case.


Thanks for the response james. I did check with Paypal and an individual can't set-up recurring payments-a subscription has to be established.  So Jenna's going to have to depend on my memory for her booze fund!


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: jamesabrown1 on January 15, 2009, 09:53:14 pm
LOL. I guess we'll all have to try to remember not to let Jenna suffer. Maybe they'll set up a subscription option so we won't all have to keep checking back. Meantime, if Jenna will keep making her beautiful self appear then I think they'll get plenty of responses. Apart from that, I think I'll just check in every month while I'm able, and see if I can help in some small way. Maybe others will as well, I hope. Some of us got burned on the old site, but that was because of the deceit, not because we didn't genuinely want to help. I'm not so jaded that I won't jump in again.
 
Seriously, this community is worth saving and supporting, and the admins and mods, and even the old pirate captain himself, are worthy of our support. In a way I'm glad it came to this, it made us choose what is and what is not important. We chose to make each other important, how could we go wrong after that?


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: rebcsc on May 29, 2009, 07:21:11 am
contributed to the "kitty" several days ago ... enough to meet the May needs as posted on the "home" page. It hasn't been updated to show my "donation". So ...

... if you're going to say "We need this much to meet this month's server bill", it would be nice if the amount needed were kept current. Otherwise, that might be my last donation.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Ali on May 29, 2009, 07:27:34 am
well, unfortunately I don't have time to check everyday, the last time I checked was this time last week. If I have missed your donation then I apologise however rather than a rather rude post about how we don't keep it up to date, you could have just posted an enquiry for us to check in case there'd been a problem with your payment perhaps?

edit

I have now updated the donation meter, apologies to those of you who have sent in monies in the last week but have not seen your donation added to the front page

If anyone would like to tackle devising a meter that will update automatically I would be most grateful - unfortunately any technological like that is beyond the comprehension of my few functioning brain cells!


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: rebcsc on May 29, 2009, 08:31:32 am
I don't consider my post "rude".

Since it was near the end of the month and the site was reporting a nearly 25% shortfall in the required "server, etc" fees, and I did donate an amount equal to the shortfall to make sure the site's expenses were covered, a simple explanation and "thank you" would have sufficed.

and ...

You're welcome.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: jamesabrown1 on May 31, 2009, 07:20:04 am
Yep, me too, but it's OK by me. They'll just apply it to the next month.


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Stinkerbella on December 10, 2009, 06:36:54 pm
Due to a recent hacking of my account *since doofus me was using my card directly linked to my bank account. feel free to add jokes or smack me upside the head later lol* I've been wanting to donate but since that I was wondering will there ever be an option for maybe money orders to be sent in? I'm pretty sure someone else may like the option, but I'd like to try it that way for the time being. I plan on getting a card separate from the account but not until sometime after the holidays. Even then since I'm a HUGE procrastinator it may be abit longer. If that's not going to ever be an option, then I will put a rush on getting the card, also since I've grown use to ordering online.  ;D


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Paden on December 10, 2009, 06:42:48 pm
Thing is, while a good deal of our membership is here in the States, the server is in Ali's name and Ali is in the U.K. and money orders don't translate well...


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Stinkerbella on December 10, 2009, 06:48:39 pm
Ah ok. Didn't know that part. LoL. I'll just have to make sure after the holiday stuff is over with to get that card then. Thanks for the answer.  ;D


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Ali on December 11, 2009, 08:51:19 am
I can pay in foreign currency cheques however the bank then takes a fairly hefty chunk of it, more so than paypal. My bank has to talk to your bank, each takes a cut for the pleasure of talking, then my bank converts it into sterling and takes another cut, I would then have to convert it back to USD and the bank would take another cut to pay the bill which is in USD - and people wonder why banks make so much money!! For all those reasons, paypal is really the only way to go as I keep the account in USD so as not to lose anything and also, none of it actually goes into my bank account - it just sits in cyber space waiting for the monthly bill to arrive.

Also, for obvious reasons, I'm reluctant to post my address publicly!!

You can pay e-cheques into paypal, we've had a few of those in the last year.

If you can't donate it's no problem, you all help keep the site going just by being here. If you can donate then that's fantastic :D


Title: Re: The Ugly Question of Money
Post by: Stinkerbella on December 11, 2009, 06:11:09 pm
SHEESH! Banks will do anything to make that dollar. LoL. I figured it was complicated but I didn't imagine it like that. LoL. Then again why am I acting surprised they'd do something like that. HAHA! I'll just have to get that card and everything will be ok then for me. I can just add what I want to donate, so whoever hacks me again will just have to wait till I add money to try again.  :p
I know how you feel about posting your home address. I always use my work address for online things.  ;D I'm not familiar with the e-cheques, but I'll be sure look into that. Maybe that'll be my option till I get that card I speak of. I'd really like to donate. This site is too awesome to let anything happen to it. Also I love the thought I'd be donating to the site and Walt's not getting one penny of it.  >:D


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