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Title: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Sane Enough on January 29, 2009, 09:21:06 pm
I've heard alot on Sims 3. The good...and the bad. They're neck and neck for me, BUT if I can't change the body the way I need, I'm not getting it until someone mods or something.

I've heard about slider for the bodies. "Go from toothpick to grossly obese", but can I have big boobs, big butt, and small stomach? Could I have my Rio, Fitchick, Swimsuit Model, and my other favorite shapes?

And what about the hair? Is it gonna be poop-on-a-stick hair like the sims 2?


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: simkitty181 on January 30, 2009, 05:17:49 pm
by looking at some of the pictures, I noticed that about 80% of the sims they used in each picture had a different looking body, going from skin and bones, to big boobs and a big but, to a muscular male.  I think there will be more sliders in sims 3 then there was in the sims 2 console version, I mean on sims 2 for consoles, all you could do was change the chest, legs and arms.  Hopefully . . . just HOPEFULLY . . . they make it so you can change almost every aspect of the body, and I don't mean with one big slider, I'm talking like several different sliders for chest, like "boob size" and "torso width" and stuff ... lol


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Katarama on February 03, 2009, 01:35:13 pm
I thought I read somewhere that the only way for a sim to have decent sized boobs is to make your sim fat with the sliders in CAS. Personally I don't want to have to do this just to have different boob sizes in my game. I like variety. I hope, if the game is delayed that they will fix it. But I doubt it. lol


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Magicflute on February 03, 2009, 07:55:46 pm
As sweet as it would be to be able to make real looking women, with curves and all, you just know that the crazy, anti-video game parents would have a hay-day with a slider that adjusts boob size ... I wish they could put it in, but I don't think there is anyway they can without being crucified for it.
Stupid people are ruining it for all of us. Boo. 3gah


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: cantresist17 on February 12, 2009, 07:20:53 pm
I'm gay, but I enjoyed having large breasted woman in my games-or variety of some sort.  For example-WWE games have had such choices to adjust all sorts of body parts with men and women (male organ not an option). So it's not really offensive nor would it be the first game to do such things either.  I will be SHOCKED when there is a game like Sims 2 that's not rated above M (or strictly about sex) where you can actually have bulge (without custom content.)


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Hanomaru on February 13, 2009, 10:34:54 am
But it's a *FAMILY GAME* and obviously no one under the age of 18 knows about the existence of breasts and buttocks, much less that they come in different sizes! :rolleyes:

I think I can put up with a little inflexibility when I'm playing it, though.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: moo-moo on February 13, 2009, 12:37:30 pm
i read in the paper today that a 13 year old boy and a 15 year old girl have become parents but you don't hear people  asking for them to be taken out of the country or anything sdo why should they do it to our games?
i think they should all be anatomically correct and able to posess breasts as large or small as the creator wishes i mean they are supposed to be making it more realistic


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: simkitty181 on February 13, 2009, 07:57:10 pm
I have a new theory, I remember watching a video on the sims 3 about being able to customize your sims basically, and advanced.
The basic way is probably just one slider for your sim's body, advanced might have several sliders.
This is just a theory, I'm not saying if its true or not.

I was kinda pissed...err, I mean mad, when I found out about the delay.
Lets just hope that they add more to the game, or fix some stuff...or maybe they read this thread and decided to fix the sliders? who knows...


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: VennDiagram on March 10, 2009, 09:14:00 pm
so you mean to tell me if i wanted to create fraternal twins..one super curvy and sexy and the other plain jane...the most i could do is make one fat and one skinny.....that sucks!!! all ea has been talking about is making different types of people and blah blah blah but in actuality the biggest change is the traits.....and better graphics...where were they getting their input from when designing the sims 3...i have played the sims since 2000 and am a huge fan but everybody likes the game for different reasons and i like to create people i just thought their would be a tad more versatility 


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: dutchessdeonne on March 14, 2009, 09:52:14 am
I have become very attached to my many different sims ( Female and Male)   and there various atttributes!!!!!!! When I saw the video to build a sim, not only was I unimpressed with the skin tones. But was horiffied to see that the bodybuilder looked mor flab, than fab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1explode  1explode


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: VennDiagram on March 14, 2009, 02:58:43 pm
i read on snooty sims
# Body can be shaped as faces were in Sims 2.
# There are sliders for weight and fitness.

so maybe they are just trying to keep the way bodies can be shaped under wraps
 at least i hope so


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: J. M. Pescado on March 14, 2009, 09:30:13 pm
There are *TWO* body sliders. No, you can't adjust the parts independently to get your various Warlokk shapes. Sorry.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: dutchessdeonne on March 15, 2009, 12:10:37 pm
Oh well maybe some day there will be a slider for adults only, since we are probably the ones who spend most of the money.
Perhaps they will consider making an adult version.  ;D


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: VennDiagram on March 15, 2009, 12:30:42 pm
There are *TWO* body sliders. No, you can't adjust the parts independently to get your various Warlokk shapes. Sorry.

maybe  is was reaching i was just hoping those two post weren't redundant


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: trooperx on March 22, 2009, 03:47:13 am
Apparently u can't import custom meshes into the sims 3.  :( :(  I guess there wont be any more "gigantic" ones no more.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: dutchessdeonne on March 22, 2009, 02:48:15 pm
Please believe me when I say I feel your pain!!!!!!!!!   2rofl


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: kaoz666 on March 27, 2009, 05:11:31 am
No custom meshes means a bunch of sims with static body shapes with only limited differences between them, especially if it's only two sliders to adjust body types as Pescado said.

I'll pass, thank you.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Casual Dude on April 16, 2009, 12:32:08 pm
From what i heard, i have a feeling sims 3 isnt going to do well at all  :confused:

*cough*good*cough*


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: naturegirl240 on April 23, 2009, 08:15:46 pm
Acutually I believe there are three sliders one for the upper body (arms and bust), midsection, and lower body (Hips and below). I am not completely sure. There probably is another for muscular tone


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Jade on April 27, 2009, 01:00:50 am
For me the sims is not a game for making as barbie looking sims as possible so i don´t mind if there´s not going to be breast slider but i understand why some people want them. There are hundreds of diffrend kind of body types in world and it would be cool if there were more sliders.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: PageCaek on May 05, 2009, 01:56:50 pm
On the one hand? I do want more body sliders and such so I can fine-tune my Sims' bodies. On the other hand I suppose I'm just glad they actually put in a body slider at all instead of just having "skinny" and "slightly less skinny" options for the females and "skinny" and "skinny with belly" for the males at basegame.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: kaoz666 on May 05, 2009, 02:30:03 pm
Let's face it. No two people are built the same. No two fat people have the same proportions. No two musclemen have the same sized mass. Having varied bodyshapes is essential to the realism of a game like The Sims. With the ability to import your own meshes on TS2, this allowed for such creators as Warlokk, Marvine & BeosBoxBoy, Netra and so many others to come up with the bodyshapes we all know and love. But in TS3, even with whatever body sliders they're going to implement, the body types will still be static at best. Yea, you'll be able to make a fat sim, but he/she will still be based on the Maxis template. There won't be any custom bodyshapes, only what Maxis allows. That woefully limits the game IMO. I've just started playing around with meshing for my own purposes on TS2, and it would have been nice to carry that over into TS3. But you can't. If there are more then two sliders, then maybe...just maybe there might be hope. But from what I here across the many forums I go to, Two sliders seems to be what everyone confirms, which sucks ass. And day by day TS3 looks even less and less appealing to me. But as I've said before, if you're just a casual gamer, or someone who hasn't logged in that much time in TS2, go ahead and get TS3. It's not a "bad" game, it just doesn't offer enough bang for my buck personally to warrant me plunking down $50 for it, especially since I'd be starting over. And I'm not in the least bit even close to being bored with TS2 yet. Maybe come 2011 when there's a few EPs on the market and more gameplay options available I'll get it, but as of now...that's not happening.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 05, 2009, 09:10:45 pm
One must remember that it took nearly two years to unravel sims 2 and start realy modding the game. The remeshing and retexturing of clothes and hair was accomplished relatively quickly but I suspect that there will be no comparison time-wise between the sims 2 and 3 in relation to actually modding the game and reconstructing the sims characters body-wise into some decent or even comparable to what we are used to in the sims 2.
It would appear that EA have gone out of their way to make the above near on impossible and if finaly achieved very questionable if it can even be installed.
I mention the installation of CC. because of EAs desire to cash in on the CC. distribution and their stance on creators copyright. The only way I see that can be controlled is via a third party installation program/programs. So we have sims store, download manager, sims point and exchange, all available only by registering the game. VIP. indeed.
If CC. can be as easily installed in sims 3 as in sims 2 then what is the point of the above?
We could just have a sims 3 version of the booty. Some how I don't think so, I think the good times are coming to an end.
Any thoughts on that?


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: kaoz666 on May 05, 2009, 09:52:34 pm
The good times will roll on, just on The Sims 2. As I and plenty of people have said, CC will still be created for TS2 LOOOOOOOOOOONG after TS3 comes out. Years even. TS2 just has more replay value. I'll take that over having to pay for CC anyday.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 06, 2009, 01:31:36 am
I really hope so Kaoz666. It took several years to get this game to where it is now and I love it, I really don't have the patience to start all over.My sims now actually look human some of the bodys are freakishly realistic and the animations developed by the brilliant likes of Hunter and Jokerswild that took many years to mature really top the game of.
Just how long it is going to take someone with the skill and patience to transform those ugly caricatures in sims 3 into something resembling the beauties in sims 2 is anyone's guess.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Mickey57 on May 06, 2009, 05:09:36 pm
I am still waiting to see what happens. I am inclined to agree, if I can't have the variety and choice of custom content that I have with sims 2, I would just as soon not guy the new game.  But I also remember when sims 2 came out, there was lots of talk about not being able to customize and most of the creators got right past ea games ways of stopping things.  So, I will wait and see, if the creative community can bypass ea games stuff, cool, if not, let ea games lose out because I know too many people who would rather play with variety than with a game they can't control as much. 


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: kaoz666 on May 06, 2009, 06:29:18 pm
You point is a valid one Mickey as far as how things went when TS2 being somewhat similar to the impending release of TS3. But the biggest difference is that with TS2, EA embraced the modding community. They left the software for the most part open ended, so that the tech savy users could import new meshes, and use the coding of the game to come up with such things as Simpose2 and of course SimPE. Not the case with TS3. EAxis is pretty much saying screw you to the modding community because they basically made the game better then they did. Hence forth the inability to import custom meshes in TS3, as well as the CC issue. In a nutshell, they're playing big brother to the game in ever possible way. They want TS3 to be played how they want it to be played, and have done everything in their technical power to ensure that the only people who can import, export or alter any coding on the game are people on the EAxis payroll. And why have they gone to these great lengths? Because...

A. They want to avoid the game being pirated at any...and I do mean ANY cost. Even if it means compromising the relationship they have with longtime users.

B. They want to ensure none of the more "racey" content that was made by the community on TS2 doesn't ever happen on TS3. Hence it keeps the game "Family Friendly". And when it's family friendly, they can whore the game out to the impressionable Tweens Who won't even devote much time to the game. More money in EA's pocket.

Just look at the way the models look on the game. They look frakkin' cartoony and unrealistic. A right minded person would look at it as many of us have and say "WTF is the crap?" But a 14 year old will see it and be like "That looks cool." They're trying to draw in a young audience. The 14-18 year olds who think nothing of dropping $50 on something that essentially end up collecting dust. And to the ones that keep on playing, they'll keep on pumping out cute, family oriented CC. But those of us who like a more realistic looking game with realistic looking characters, more adult themed fashions, objects and features...we're pretty much S.O.L. as far as TS3 goes.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 07, 2009, 02:56:01 am
I wonder just how many teens really could be bothered to spend their precious time playing the game, and is all this teen thing could just be wishful thinking by EA. and I wonder just what the ratio is for teen and adult in playing the game.
This teen thing has always puzzled me because all the teens I know have far to many other distractions I really don't know of many that sit down and play computer games.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: PageCaek on May 07, 2009, 03:36:14 pm
I wonder just how many teens really could be bothered to spend their precious time playing the game, and is all this teen thing could just be wishful thinking by EA. and I wonder just what the ratio is for teen and adult in playing the game.
This teen thing has always puzzled me because all the teens I know have far to many other distractions I really don't know of many that sit down and play computer games.

I've been playing The Sims since I got the first one was like ten. And most of the other teenagers I know play The Sims 2 currently or at least have played it. So... I'd say a lot of them play it. Yeah.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Magicflute on May 07, 2009, 04:31:52 pm
I wonder just how many teens really could be bothered to spend their precious time playing the game, and is all this teen thing could just be wishful thinking by EA. and I wonder just what the ratio is for teen and adult in playing the game.
This teen thing has always puzzled me because all the teens I know have far to many other distractions I really don't know of many that sit down and play computer games.

I've been playing The Sims since I got the first one was like ten. And most of the other teenagers I know play The Sims 2 currently or at least have played it. So... I'd say a lot of them play it. Yeah.

Definitely. I started playing it when I was a teen, I just happen to not be one anymore!  ;D


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Mickey57 on May 07, 2009, 07:25:50 pm
I tend to agree with what you said, but I wonder if they will change their position when they see what it does for sales.  I suspect the original game will be very popular, but then it will dwindle off if people can't use custom content as we have.  I know I mostly like to build and create little story lines for myself with the game, if I can't have what I want, I would just as soon stick with the Sims 2 and not give them any more money!  I think a lot of others feel that way too and I think it will cost them to the point where it will either have to be more creator friendly or they will end the series. 


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: amberfaye on May 07, 2009, 07:49:55 pm
I guess Im an odd ball out. Ive been playing sims for several years also... since I was... 19, maybe? And when sims 2 came out, I got it and played the vanilla version for a while, then slowly started accumulating CC and mods, hacks, careers, skins and clothes... stuff, ya know.
I never have downloaded any custom body meshes... so Im fine with the sliders. Im not registering my game, and I will just play between vanilla 3 and built up 2 until people EVENTUALLY get thru the code. Have faith in the sims modders.... It may take some time but I thihnk it will be worth it.
If you dont wanna buy it untill then, thats your thing. I however will be getting it on release day.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: ma. on May 07, 2009, 08:46:58 pm
I guess Im an odd ball out. Ive been playing sims for several years also... since I was... 19, maybe? And when sims 2 came out, I got it and played the vanilla version for a while, then slowly started accumulating CC and mods, hacks, careers, skins and clothes... stuff, ya know.
I never have downloaded any custom body meshes... so Im fine with the sliders. Im not registering my game, and I will just play between vanilla 3 and built up 2 until people EVENTUALLY get thru the code. Have faith in the sims modders.... It may take some time but I thihnk it will be worth it.
If you dont wanna buy it untill then, thats your thing. I however will be getting it on release day.

I'm the same. I use CC, but I do not use any custom body meshes. I just don't like how freakish a lot of them look. So at the moment, I really don't mind the lack of custom bodies. I'm just loving that you can actually get pretty sims with the base game.

Post Merge: May 08, 2009, 05:25:10 pm - Please remember to modify your post and not reply to yourself
I also hate to double-post but I have some news on the 2-or-2-Sliders debate.

I bought the "The Sims 3: An Introduction" PC CD-ROM from Target and watched the Designer Walkthrough and they were showing two sliders: weight and fitness.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: kaoz666 on May 08, 2009, 09:08:24 pm
And your really think you're going to get any real variety in body type with 2 sliders? Sports games and the Smackdown Vs. Raw series of wrestling games allow you totally alter the morphing and build of the game model. Hell, EA Sports has had some of the best creation tools in the business, namely with the FIFA, Madden, NBA Live and Fight Night franchises of games. Tell me why they can't seem to get passed 2 sliders for a game that's supposedly supposed to be about "Simulated Life". Last I checked no 2 people had the same build. Like I said before, the only thing TS3 has going for it is a color wheel. That's not a good sign IMO. But if you can find happiness in the game with only two body sliders, more power to you. Me personally, I need more...and TS3 is woefully lacking in the areas that would make me buy the game.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: ma. on May 08, 2009, 09:35:52 pm
That is your opinion.

I myself haven't really been the hardcore TS2 gamer; I've recently started playing almost-nonstop a couple months ago and I don't have a lot of cc, mostly just hacks and hacked objects.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 09, 2009, 08:02:31 am
If they are going to insist on calling it a family game, ala. Walt Disney, will it still have an M classification?
I think the original game, the ist in the sims 1 series where the couple embraced and then disappeared into a pink heart shaped cloud followed shortly by the storks arrival is what one could term as a family game.
It got progressively raunchy as it matured from sims 1 to 2 now you have grunts and squeals of delight accompanied by heaving bed covers, hardly what I would term a family game?
There is an awful lot of teen and family targeted media available now and I don't recall any of it having an M classification, PG., yes.
I am talking about Australia, I don't know how the game is classified in the rest of the world.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: ma. on May 09, 2009, 08:34:06 am
Here in the US, it'll be Rated T for Crude Humour, Sexual Themes, and Violence so it isn't exactly family friendly, just teen friendly.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 09, 2009, 07:24:19 pm
This Teen rating is somewhat ambiguous because that covers the age group 13 to 19. Here in Australia at 18 you are classed as an adult and in many countries at that age you are old enough to kill. The sims 1 shipped with a T. rating accompanied by M. 15+. That changed with sims 2 to just M.
The whole teen thing can be very confusing if not complex because in many countries the 13 to 16 age is still classified as child/juvenile, so that in effect puts the 15 into the child category.
The T. rating is a recommendation by the developer in order to sell the product to as varied an age group as possible. It then is classified by individual governments as either PG. M or MA.
This family thing is also debatable. What kind of family? with children? with adults still living with their parents?
To my understanding this family thing they're implying should mean absolutely no sex, no violence, no bad language and no sexy outfits, but then most of these games won't sell, will they?


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Zggs on May 09, 2009, 09:43:13 pm
I was a hardcore TS2 gamer but even with all the CC and stuff it started losing some its luster because I couldn't personalize their personalities and such.  Besides I want to possibly work in video game development and I think I can learn things from TS3.  I'm willing to give it a try.  It's possible they start adding things a little later on just like the EPs for TS2.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Magicflute on May 10, 2009, 12:23:35 am
I was a hardcore TS2 gamer but even with all the CC and stuff it started losing some its luster because I couldn't personalize their personalities and such.  Besides I want to possibly work in video game development and I think I can learn things from TS3.  I'm willing to give it a try.  It's possible they start adding things a little later on just like the EPs for TS2.

Exactly. I am fully aware that we will be back-tracking in some aspects from 2 to 3, but we'll also be moving forward in others! Sure, the sims in 3 aren't even close to being as beautiful as mine are currently in 2, but if I can create people that actually act like I had imagined and I can just sit back and watch them, I think this game will have a pretty darn good foundation to build on. Sure, I love CC as much as the next guy, but I'm also willing to take a chance that the new game will have good qualities too. And if it does happen to suck, then 2 will still be there. There's no harm in that.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: SimGirl20 on May 10, 2009, 02:04:24 am
I agree Magicflute I think what everyone is mis-regarding is the fact that come June 2, 2009 when you get your shiny new copy of the game and pop it in and go "ew.. wtf" its probably because we are very spoiled by some of the amazing CC and mod creators out there that we can't bear to see another maxis sim and I understand that, I do but everyone must think back to the early years of TS2 release..I know you guys remember how screwed up the base game sims looked! lol and if you need a refresh to the brain,maybe you should take out all your downloads and play a base-game sim or two but I think like others have stated that TS3 has the potential to be a great game, we must all give it time but I believe TS3 will eventually be a nice game like TS2 is today. In regards to CC, sure I think people will eventually start making some nice free content maybe sooner than what we would think, because we all have more knowledge regarding cc now than we did when TS2 first came out so here's my quote

"Good things come, to those whom wait" ;)


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 10, 2009, 04:36:23 am
I can well remember the release of sims 2, and to me they were fantastic, sure the hair and clothes were crappy until the CC. started hitting the sites, as for the hacks and mods I could see the possibilities there, sure they took a couple of years but there were no obstacles placed there by EA.
I can also see the modding and hacking potential in the sims3. But unlike the previous releases where EA. has more or less said "here is the game make it yours, the tools are out there do what you will with it" The reason I am so anti sims 3 is that EA. has put every obstacle they can think of into the game so as to make it near on impossible to mod/hack, and secondly they intend to turn the whole sims 3 thing into some quasi pay site.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Mickey57 on May 10, 2009, 05:53:17 am
Believe it or not, I am inclined to believe most of what I have heard on both sides of the issue.  However, I am still more against the new game than for it.  For me, custom content defines the game.  And at this time, there is not really much to get excited over except the body sliders which are still limited in what they let us create and the fact that sims can wander around more freely.  I also have no desire to lay out more cash on custom content, when you are paying 50-70 per game/expansion and then pay 20 per add on package, now they want to charge for content too, it's just too much and not worth the effort.  My take is simple, I will wait and watch the sites and see what develops.  I don't think that EA Games knows how much the hundreds of functional custom content sites does for them and I think they will suffer when these sites start to close and the custom content well dries up.  People will quickly lose interest when all of their sims look like boxy little creatures wearing the same five outfits in a myriad of colors and the same three chairs in a variety of colors and all driving the same three cars.  I am confident that people will find ways to bypass their software and will develop something outside the EA Games perimeters to allow us to get content into the game, but I think that will take time.  When they set up the new game as they have, it's not worth the effort to me and I just don't want to pay more to get less.   So, I will still wait and see!


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: kaoz666 on May 10, 2009, 01:19:52 pm
This thread's kinda gone off the rail some, lol. I'll take the blame partially for that, and try to veer it back on course if even just a little by talking about the subject line more, Bodyshapes. Now It's been confirmed as Pescado said MONTHS ago that there are only 2, count em 2 sliders for body. Size, and Fitness. Which admitted doesn't offer much. You could make a well built sim, yes. But will he have the detail of Marvine & BBB's Bodybuilder meshes? Not even close. He'll just look like a bulked up version of the default maxis mesh. Add to that the same drab, plastic looking skin and compared to what we have on TS2, it looks like crap. SimGirl pointed it out perfectly the fact that as simmers, we've grown accustomed to the incredible stuff we now have 6 years later from when the base Sims 2 game was released. In TS3, it's bare bones once again, so for many people (myself included) it's taking a HUGE step backwards even with all of the other advances the game has. This proves the age old point that gameplay isn't the only aspect to a game that sells. It has to be visually appealing. It has to catch the consumers eye. At best the graphics of TS3 personally reminds me of those old Claymation shows. That ain't good. And that could be remedied with imported content. Meshes, skins, all of the stuff we have on TS2. But there's not even been so much as a mention of TS3 having Bodyshop or some form of equivalent to it. THAT concerns me, as well as tells me without a doubt that EA most likely plans to stranglehold the CC market for TS3 to ensure they have sovereignty over it. That's the part that doesn't sit well with me. The fact that in the two past titles they had a hands off approach to CC, where as now all of a sudden they want to not only cash in on it, but make it so that only they and those "affiliated" with them can as well. The game's less then a month away, and just about all the details for the game have already been revealed, so if no word of a Bodyshop has been mentioned in those details, I doubt it exists. Of course that's just my own speculation, and when it does come out people will obviously confirm if it's true or not. But in the end, going back to the initial point of the topic, the bodyshapes, much like CC in general is looking a little lackadaisical in my opinion. I'm trying to soften up to the game, I really am. I'm trying to see the good it has as well as the bad. But it's like sitting an a beautifully painted room with expensive furniture...and smoldering turd smack in the middle of the floor. No matter how good it looks, something still stinks.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 11, 2009, 12:29:41 am
These discussions on the sims 3 have almost run their full course. All will be revealed next month. Will the game mean the death of sims 2 or will it turn into a flop?
Will we Have Thomas and his motley crew crying "step right up folks plenty of CC. here" ?
Will EA. release a patch to enable CC. import and modding as per sims 2 if sales start to tumble?
How long will those who have been so used to customising their previous game tolerate a squeaky clean vanilla game?
We're gonna find all this out very shortly.
One thing is certain, all these new traits, bells and whistles etc. will rapidly loose their novelty if we are forced to play them with the fugly characters depicted in their previews.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: emoarian19 on May 11, 2009, 01:53:37 am
I will just play between vanilla 3 and built up 2 until people EVENTUALLY get thru the code. Have faith in the sims modders.... It may take some time but I thihnk it will be worth it.
If you dont wanna buy it untill then, thats your thing. I however will be getting it on release day.

I totally agree with you. I'm still gonna call days off work to play it. Im 23 btw and ive playing since ts1 came out( i was 16 or 17). I just had an epiphany! It makes since to me now why EA didnt allowed teens to get pregnant in ts2. Because they wanted teens to play and if they allowed their teens to get pregnant, that gives parents one more person to blame why they cant control their kids when they find out Billy over here knocked up his girlfriend. lol (sorry if there is a billy who really did knock up his girlfriend) :D


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 11, 2009, 02:53:39 am
I'm trying to get out of this. This is way of track but needs a response. Amberfeye teens have been doing this for as long as teens have been teens, IT'S not games or movies etc. that encourage that kind of behaviour amongst teens. You have been around 23 years, there a lot in this community that have been around twice as long or more, myself included, and I can tell you we all heard the same claptrap when we were teens, We all messed around, we all heard the terms, juvenile delinquents, out of control, no respect for their elders, and so on. The more we were forced to conform the more we rebelled, it had absolutely nothing to do with games and such, it was just being a teen.
People must stop blaming the media for something that's been going on for thousands of years. It's called puberty dammit.
 


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Magicflute on May 11, 2009, 04:05:37 pm
^True. And that's why they can't put it in the game. If it looks like they support it, parents will throw a hissy fit. Hence the reason (in my opinion) that they go for the more conservative route in a lot of aspects of the game (body sliders, detailed skins, etc). It's all about making money and they'll get more parents on board if it's a "clean" game. That's what I think, at least. Kinda sucks, but what can ya do?  :-\


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: emoarian19 on May 11, 2009, 05:31:11 pm
Amberfeye teens have been doing this for as long as teens have been teens, IT'S not games or movies etc. that encourage that kind of behaviour amongst teens. You have been around 23 years, there a lot in this community that have been around twice as long or more, myself included, and I can tell you we all heard the same claptrap when we were teens, We all messed around, we all heard the terms, juvenile delinquents, out of control, no respect for their elders, and so on. The more we were forced to conform the more we rebelled, it had absolutely nothing to do with games and such, it was just being a teen.
People must stop blaming the media for something that's been going on for thousands of years. It's called puberty dammit.
I know that! If you read correctly, I said that it would give more reasons for parents to blame their bad parenting skills on someone else! Im not blaming The Sims or anybody for other people's mistakes. Parents try to find reasons to say that their kids are innocent and they were influenced by the things they watch or listen to or even play. They dont want to admit that they were not paying enough attention to their kids. I am not amberfaye btw, I was responding to his/her comment. And I have been around long enough to know that before you respond to a message make sure you have read and understood it.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 11, 2009, 06:50:02 pm
My apologies there emorian, it's just this teen morality promotion thing that gets me somewhat hot under the collar. I still remember when music and literature were the ist. scapegoats, then television,now games. 'oops I forgot movies'
In my opinion if you want teen morality, you have a total lock down like they have in Islamic societies.
Perhaps even removing anything even remotely suggestive from the media and entertainment, make the lot squeaky clean, all games about as raunchy as Mario Bros.
All this is just paying lip service to those who choose to be blind the realities of the real world.To turn the sims into something resembling Walt Disney is not going to make an iota of difference.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: amberfaye on May 11, 2009, 06:59:14 pm
Um.. yeah, I was gonna say Amberfaye didnt say anything about teens LOL

However...
to quote... "I was a hardcore TS2 gamer but even with all the CC and stuff it started losing some its luster because I couldn't personalize their personalities and such."

ditto. :)


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: emoarian19 on May 11, 2009, 07:34:31 pm
My apologies there emorian, it's just this teen morality promotion thing that gets me somewhat hot under the collar.

 I hear ya, Im the same way. I am a parent of a 2 1/2year old and there is no way im raising her how these other yahoos with kids do.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Zggs on May 12, 2009, 12:04:38 am
I always did hate how parents blamed the media for the child's faults.  My mom let me watch the gory stuff, listen to things that parents wouldn't let their kids here, and lots of other things.  My mom knew I would hear most of that stuff anyway at school and such.  You can't always protect your kids.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Jade on May 12, 2009, 07:35:42 am
The truth about teenagers and kids is that they are still children. They are not adults and some boundaries are necessary, that´s what separates adults from kids. I think it´s good that there are not sliders for breast and hips in the basic game. Maybe it would be possible for expansion with higher age recommendation but still, i dont think EA is goint to do it. I would be really surprised if there were breast and hips sliders.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 12, 2009, 08:50:01 am
I think they should include a teen role model in the game (nah I'm not serious, just feeling playful) Britney Spears perhaps, and include a story line, How to ruin your career in three easy moves.
1 Wait till you're at the peak of your career and them marry a total looser
2 Have a couple of kids with him and then hit the bottle and get a divorce.
3 Forget to wear underwear with your micro mini.
Then they could call it a teen game.
This will probably end up in the rubbish where it belongs, but heck, I needed a laugh today.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Magicflute on May 12, 2009, 08:59:15 am
I would be really surprised if there were breast and hips sliders.

Yeah, I would be really surprised too. I'm may be in the minority, but I'm kind of ok with not having sliders for those. I am a little bummed that CC may be difficult, but I'm going to to just try and revamp how I play, focus more on the stories than having the most gorgeous sims ever. I'll just make the best of what they give us, I suppose. I'm ready for a change.

I think they should include a teen role model in the game (nah I'm not serious, just feeling playful) Britney Spears perhaps, and include a story line, How to ruin your career in three easy moves.
1 Wait till you're at the peak of your career and them marry a total looser
2 Have a couple of kids with him and then hit the bottle and get a divorce.
3 Forget to wear underwear with your micro mini.
Then they could call it a teen game.
This will probably end up in the rubbish where it belongs, but heck, I needed a laugh today.

Lol. Oh, Britney. She started out well but then things just went so terribly wrong ...  :rolleyes:


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 13, 2009, 12:22:33 am
Perhaps the Japanese version might include those Japanese idol models, you know, the ones that pose in very scanty lingerie pretending to be super innocent.
They're supposed to be teen role models that's why they're forbidden to show anything. That's just gonna mean that EA. are going to have to include sexy lingerie.
Yea yea I know. I'm still being sarcastic. ;)


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: ma. on May 13, 2009, 09:06:17 am
Perhaps the Japanese version might include those Japanese idol models, you know, the ones that pose in very scanty lingerie pretending to be super innocent.
They're supposed to be teen role models that's why they're forbidden to show anything. That's just gonna mean that EA. are going to have to include sexy lingerie.
Yea yea I know. I'm still being sarcastic. ;)

I could totally see that in the Japanese version. >.>,,,


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 13, 2009, 05:09:30 pm
If they choose to accommodate the Japanese then they will have to tweak the body slider. (Check the pictures on the net)
Yep, still being sarcastic.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Nalia on May 13, 2009, 05:51:50 pm
The Japanese society might be a little harsh regarding hierarchy and specific roles, or have their little prejudices and keep an upper stiff lip when compare themselves with other East Asian countries but they are not hypocritical puritants. I'm sure they would have no problem with allowing breast size-change sliders.  ;D


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 14, 2009, 03:44:07 am
Whey hey, you could be onto something there. Maybe it would be worthwhile checking e bay for a Japanese version of the game. I can't see the game as sold in the west cutting it over there, especially after what they're used to playing, So there could be a special release for them.
I've seen trailers of some of their teen games, WOW, here in the enlightened west those games are  strictly forbidden even to adults.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: ma. on May 14, 2009, 07:47:00 am
The only problem with finding/playing the Japanese version is that you'd have to know Kanji. Dunno 'bout y'all, but I'm not knowledgeable in the way of the Kanji.


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Nalia on May 14, 2009, 07:50:42 am
lol  Maybe you could take an intensive course till June? (joking, of course)


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: roerzman on May 14, 2009, 12:58:52 pm
Who's running the classes?


Title: Re: Sim 3 Bodyshapes
Post by: Nalia on May 15, 2009, 02:14:57 am
Not me. lol


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