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Greetings:

Now that Sims 3 in heading our way....
I have a few question:

Has anyone read about the ease of use for making CC? Will it be easier to make items/stuff/better hair
stuff like that than it has in the past? Will we have more pay sites or will EA go the route of World of Warcraft and make it donation only? I do look forward to all of you clever people out there turning my vanilla game into something I can live with...  ;D


EDITED DUE TO WE ARE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS ADULT CONTENT ON THIS SITE, PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND AND POST ACCORDINGLY.

I'm not paying for a damn bit of it. Not the game, not the content. Based on the reports that have come out in this very section and on MATY, DO NOT WANT. I won't be buying it, I won't be pirating it. I won't be getting it AT ALL. As for people modding the stupid thing? EA is doing its best to make sure that IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. When are people going to figure this out and stop getting their hopes up? Honestly, you people with your high hopes and unrealistic expectations are getting up my nose in a big way. SecuROM, next to no CC and hard/impossible to play... What the flaming HELL was this stupid company THINKING?! Or were they even thinking at all?

I'm not buying, period. And since EA seems to make modding impossible, I won't even buy the base game.

Greetings:

The powers that be have spoken...sorry...I wasn't really aiming this subject to talk about adult content...I was more looking for answers about the ease of use of making new stuff/skin types and so forth and how we are going to probably pay for it ...

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I have no doubt that people who do get the game will most likely have to pay through the nose to get custom content. Either EA Games or their buddies TSR will get the money, because they sure are doing their best to make CC an impossibility otherwise.

I've said this dozens of times at different sites. There will be no getting something of the net in win. or rar format and installing it via some folder. It will be done with what EA, provides. At the moment they are calling it the Sims installer. How on earth else will they be able to control the installation of CC.
Like I said before. The holiday is over, finished ,period,kaput.
If you want CC. then it's goodbye Insimenator and hello TSR. or Sims store, and make sure you have the cash.
If anybody still wants to buy the crap then bear this in mind. All you are doing is shooting yourself in the foot as far as freedom to customise goes. You are in effect saying to EA. that you support and endorse their new pay for CC. policy.

Isn't that what I just said? :P

More or less. I'm trying to reach the fence sitters and hope they hold of buying the thing immediately. If enough do it EA. may just be forced to do a 180 instead of a 360 and we can move on to an Insimenator 3 or Insimadult 3.
The number of people that still think they can bang in CC. willy nilly surprises me as do the numbers that ask about mods.
As for those that have zero interest in CC. one can only guess as to why they bother with sites like this.
The last bit is not meant to offend or target anyone, it's a genuine curiosity.

They like the sense of community and being able to talk to other simmers, even if they don't play a vanilla game like they do. And good luck trying to reach the ones that don't want to learn the real facts, it's a difficult if not impossible task. Some of them are too thick to get it. :P

Thank you for that Paden. As for those that still don't grasp the enormity of the s--t that's been going down these last few months, someone once said that stupidity is contagious, perhaps they have spent to much time at the EA. site exchanging genuine pleasantries and the virtues of tsr with one of the Maxoids.

ther going to kill the franchise by locking people out...

I can only dream that 3 will kill the franchise.

But I think those who aren't into CC much, they'll buy it, play it for a few weeks and move onto another game.  THose who love the CC, I imagine they may try it out but than come back to 2.

But we'll see.

I can't imagine paying as much as what the stupid game is going to cost and then abandoning it without some sort of roof-raising going on because of the flaws. *shakes head* It just boggles the mind, honestly. I'm sticking with what I have, it's been made playable by the people that actually take the time to fix the stupid crap that the company borked in the first place and I'm happy with it. Sure, I'd like a chance to play the founding families, but not the way they've got it set up. Sims 3 is a giant DO. NOT. WANT!!

Holey S--t Batman! I read of spending up to $100 for additional furniture etc. via the store. That's nearly twice the value of the game. Please someone tell me that human beings are not that stupid.
Also is EA. assuming we are all imbeciles and are all going to spend hundreds on f-----g pixels.
I'm exercising all the self control I have because this whole sims store thing is becomming more and more absurd by the day.

Do remember their primary customers shall be the residents of the BBS.

...I shouldn't need to say more about that. Hah.

I doubt you'll have to drop that much green to get an item, Roerz. But when talking about EA, who even knows anymore. I can pretty much confirm that with the advent of the Sims Installer, which as Roerz stated is the only means of which you'll be able to get CC onto your game, that pretty much 100% nails down what I and people like Pescado have been saying for months...

There will be NO custom imported meshes.

No body shapes. No funky, abstract furniture. No imported car models. Nothing. The only new meshes you'll see are the ones EA makes. Same thing goes for skintones, hair styles, the work. If you're one of the people who don't care for CC as I've said numerous times before "If it don't apply, let it fly". But I'll say about 65-70% of the people here on imsim DO. There wouldn't be as large a database of CC on this site if no one was using it, all of which is easy to share. EA's made it their business to make TS3 CC UNEASY to share and even more impossible import across separate PCs. Thus monopolizing CC distribution to benefit their own pockets. And who can we blame for this? The sheep that actually subscribed to sites like TSR and actually made it a place that held weight over the last 6 years. If it's someone who makes their own site with their own content and takes donations like Rosesims or Lianasims2, that I can totally understand and vouch for, because they're doing it on their own terms, so you know exactly where your donation is going. Whereas over on TSR we really don't know where the hell it's going, though with TS3 content we do...right in EA's pocket, with a little kickback to TSR for hosting the files and the creators for making it. That my friends is wrong. It might not be illegal, but it sure as hell should be.

In the long run, the CC issue was one of the two main reasons I wrote this game off. If I can't import my own stuff into the game, I don't want it. The Sims Installer nixes that from ever happening, as well as eliminates their ever being a SimPE or Clean Installer like program created by a mod because it would have to bypass the Sims Installer, which would be against copyright. So the CC issue goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY beyond not just being able to import meshes. You have to set the game up exactly how EA tells you to do, you have to play it with only what they offer, and as for user created CC, it'll either be slapped on The Exchange or TSR or other such places, and if not, you still can only import using an internal installer, not an external one like Clean Installer, meaning that for future EPs, if you download something and don't have the EP needed to make it work, you can't use it unless you get that EP. More cash in EA's pocket. Any noticing a trend here?

To quote myself in another thread...

Hah! I now know the meaning of gross stupidity, 144 paysite subscribers.
But yea Kaoz this very subject got me into a hell of a s--t fight at the adult site some months ago, Predicting the same exact thing and all I got was demands for proof, and accusations of rumormongering. Well the proof is there now,, and now it's almost to late. The only saving grace now is that someone has leaked the game prematurely and that gives the sane minority an opportunity to pick it apart and give the fence sitters a taste of what they are really in for.
But to constantly fork out for pixels that you once got free?? And the best part is that because it is EA. supplied it will probably be encrypted so no burning it to disc as a back up.(you'll know then if they included securom)
Crash your pc. and go to EA. with a sob storey and wait for the reply, that's if they even bother.
Nah that's just total insanity.
I recently downloaded an entire game, several gigs. The Delta Sector, a stand alone game that only requires the Farcry installation disc to run. Free, legit, incredibly detailed, and in my opinion even better graphics than the original. It would probably sell like cold beer on a hot day if put for sale. All the authors wanted was a thank you and recognition.
And those shonks at EA. are asking $5 for a piece of furniture?
Pardon me while I go walkabout in the Gobi desert for a couple of months. This whole sims scene is going to hell in a handbasket full speed ahead and all the moronic paysite lemmings are scampering after it singing EAs praises.

Well, there are people stupid enough to spend hundreds of dollars and more for custom content.  It's happening now with TS2.  Why should TS3 be any different?

It won't be, and that's what makes things sad. The fact that even with the cold, hard facts out and all over the net you still have gullible people who will still try and make an argument to defend the integrity of the release and all of EA's practices and plans leading up to and past the "official" release of the game. But notice how all of the people who were in this section playing devil's advocate AREN'T so adamant to defend the game now? What happened to that passionate enthusiasm that TS3 would surpass and and be a better game overall then TS2? What happened to the people who said they were sick of TS2 and ready to move on to the new game? Where has their input gone to the latest news and facts presented? But even considering the fact that the collective air got let out of the balloon and most of those folks will probably never set foot in the section again, they'll still go get the game regardless, because these are the folks who actually have to see, touch and smell a piece of crap in order to believe it's stinks. And those are the ones EA will make tons of green off of, be it CC, the impending EPs, SPs and so on. All stuff that is free of charge for TS2. This is a mess that's only gonna take months to make, and years to clean up. Between the CC issue, the apparent false info of the technical specs of the game, the DRM issue and all the rest of the crap that's come along with the game, it hardly seems worth it. But it's going to take some people actually walking on the alcohol soaked glass shards to realize they probably shouldn't have. Power to the people who still plan on buying it, you must have some strong stomachs to endure the crap you're gonna be facing with the game the next year or so.

The chances of me buying the thing are those of an ice cream dog in hell, and even less for paying for CC.
In the mean time I will sit here with a very politically incorrect cigarette, a glass of scotch and  look forward to reading all the please helps, if onlys I, why did I waste my moneys and why does my pc. crash every time whens that are gonna flood this site in two weeks time.
No doubt some of the replies are gonna be screamers.

At least we don't have to worry about there being a WCIF section for TS3. All the mods have to do is post in big, bold letters a link to The Sims Store...LMAO!!! And you know for a fact there's gonna be plenty of "Need help posts". If I may, I can give the best bit of help for anyone right here, right now. Play The Sims 2.

And on that note, I'm off to bed. It's 3:12am and my pills are starting to kick in. :P

I think I've said it in other threads, but those threads may be on other sites ;).

Isn't this a good thing for those who prefer TS2?

There's still a lot that can be done with TS2.  There's still quite a few of Warlokks bodyshapes that haven't really been hit heavy with custom outfits, that can kill time for those who like to create.  There's still a number of animations the few that do ts2 animations could do.  And I'm still cranking out quite a few conversions over at Back Alley and sometimes this sites "sister" site. 

Don't get me wrong, Ts3 looks nice.  I like the free roaming, can't say I don't.  But without CC, the Sims is a G rated game.  And I doubt very many of us here are under the age of 12, or like being coddled by a company that treats us as if we're under the age of 12 and have a thick wallet or a healthy bank account.

Even tho I am arrging the game, I will still be playing Sims 2. I bought all of the EPs and SPs I have, just learned to recolor, and learning to mesh. Still enjoy playing my families and seeing them grow.

I am just curious about the Sims 3 and since it's in an infancy, I don't want to boo it without some real knowledge. It will never have my loyalty if EA wants to shut the modders and creators out by ending the ability to make our own CC. I am a hard core simmer.  >:D  What I have seen, they need help in CC department, cause the sims are downright funny looking. They need help from head to toe, and the furnishing is downright boring.

I hope the build mode will keep me happy.  It does have some great asthetics.

I'll give it that, the build mode does look good. But the game's called The Sims 3, not The Builds 3, lol. The CC issue is a big reason, if not THE reason I'm personally put off my the game. You can only import content using the Installer, which nixes any 3rd Party (AKA User created) content ever making it into the game. What's actually considered CC in TS3 is recoloring default items. No new meshes, just coloring over EA ugliness. And anyone that "has" the game, answer me this, what kind of texture options do you have onto top of the color wheel? Can you change a shirt from looking like it's cotton based to Nylon based? Can you make make a flower pot that looks to have a Hawaiian design look more like a Mediterranean piece? I didn't think so. THAT'S the kind of customization I look for. The kind that is easily done on TS2, but impossible on TS3. I need more then a color wheel and a few crappy texture choices. I want to be able to put tribal designs on my Tees. I want to be able to make my Ed Hardy shirts. I want to be able to have my Nigerian themed pottery. Will we ever see such things on TS3? Not a chance. I want to be able to make the game and the neighborhood and all things in it fit my personal tastes and style, not EA's. So for those who don't need their own personal stamp on their hoods, enjoy the content EA will dangle in front of you looking for your monetary contributions for. You'll probably get a few decent items. But when you have to choose between filling your car with gas or getting that new couch, I think I know which way I'd go. I guess someone forgot to inform EA that America's in a recession right now, and most of the rest of the world is doing marginally better fiscally as well. And if you've got the disposable income to be shelling out 3-5 dollars per download on The Exchange for EA's CC, you should be doing something more productive with your cash...seriously.

But why should it be possible? We're dealing with real life here - real business life that is. EA isn't your benevolent big brother. They, as any other gaming company, are out for your wallet. And they, like any other gaming company, sell a quality on initial release that would earn, let's say, a car vendor a court appointment. They expect you to pay for the patches they provide sooner or later. You pay by buying something half baked, bug ridden with limited rights.

And by introducing their so called copyright protection, they walk a very fine legal line. As I said before, that copyright protection tools are nothing but a bad joke. Cracked within hours by people who know their stuff. But they're a pain in the hindparts of every honest buyer and these nice tools also reverse the pillars of our society: Innocent until proven guilty. For them you are the perpetrator and deserve to be treated as such until you have proven you have the right to fire up their crap. If that is impossible on your rig, because their software conflicts with some of your other installments, well bugger off. They already have your 50+ Euros or Dollars and that's all that matters.

And last but not least, they are the ones determining how you want to use your purchase. They want you to open your wallet once again for stuff you don't really need and close the door on those fellows providing that same stuff and much more for free.

How's that for a deal? And all in one shiny package. Doesn't matter if the contence of said package is very similiar to what my dog drops on a regular basis.

Let us say hypothetically, someone cracks this "installer" thing people keep referring to.  And lets say that after it is cracked, we can get CC in.  Well that's dandy and all but what'll happen is a new expansion will come out, one that updates the installer.  Then you're back to square one.

Personally, if people have a spine, they'd show Maxis how they feel about all of this by not buying the damn game.  If people buy it and bitch, EA doesn't care.  It's like the woman who gets beat up by her man, if she keeps going back, he's going to keep beating her.

What does that have to do with disabling the use of CC?

Disabling CC has nothing to do with the advancement of technology, it has everything to do with money.

The reason the US f***ed itself is because too many people always wanted more, they were never happy with just having enough.  EA is no different, they think they found a way to make even more.  Now they have a base game, future expansions and additional content. 

Hellgate tried to do that, and it failed. 

The TS3 leak is allowing a lot of people to already post a lot of negativity online, that will probably have more of an impact on sales than the piracy itself.

This would be the best time for another publisher/dev to create a game not unlike the Sims 3, but totally open to CC, and with a bit more of a mature spin. 

The whole bone of contention is and always has been CC. distribution,creation and most importantly, installation.
It is this that will either make or break the game
The fact that those idiots have already posted items and prices in their store is beginning to raise eyebrows even amongst some of the more ardent supporters of the game.
I find it somewhat ironic that this is also a hot topic of discussion at the tsr forum.
It appears from reading comments in various sites that not all the people are as stupid as EA assumes. There are an awful lot that are saying "the game costs X this item costs Y and this item costs Y. If I combine Y+Y+Y+Y+Y I have X. WTF! I used to get that with an EP plus new gameplay."
All my evidence points towards towards this game being a disastrous flop.

EA did step back with their graphics, what part of that don't people get? The sims look like something that would be emptied out of my cat's litter box and still, people follow those fools around and kiss their butts like they are God? WHY?! Open your eyes, smell the coffee and admit that you have been HAD. And, you didn't even get KISSED.

No Pierre, there will be no sims 3 booty, at the moment it's a giggle a poke in the eye to the technically illegal pay sites, A sims 3 booty will not be a giggle, it will be according to the sims 3 EULA seriously illegal and have with all the implications of hosting naughty music/videos etc.
50 trillion dollar fines, jail for life, public floggings,diner with Mr. Humble. 

It would have to be a Warez type site, and I don't think to many people are going to involve themselves in that sort of thing. I prefer to keep my pc. use sort of above the law and not have to s--t my self every time I log on.
Sites as such are very heavily infested with official spyware and they pounce occasionally and prosecute as a public example.
Besides, you'll still have to find some way of installing it.

I'm very glad I started reading this thread. I had no idea about the inability to get custom content into the game. I was looking forward to buying this game but that's changed. The thing I love about TS2 and even TS1 (though I haven't played that in years) is the ability to change things in the game. To add new, beautiful, non-Maxis made objects and mods. That's what keeps it exciting. I don't create custom content, since I don't know how nor do I care to learn, but that's what makes the game fun for me. I rarely use the Maxis made objects that come with the game; all the creators here, at MTS2, Parsimonious, etc create far better content than anything Maxis has ever created. I have never bought any stuff pack nor will I because of the aforementioned reason. Not to mention that most of the sites I visit are free; as someone who is unemployed and with a lot of time on her hands, I'm not going to be spending money to download custom objects into a game. I'm very disappointed that EA/Maxis is doing everything they can to get more money out of the Simmmers. I think that is bulls**t and I want nothing to do with it.

So thank you guys. I really appreciate you opening my eyes about this game.  3yay I'm going to keep reading reviews, though, as the game come out. Hopefully things will change in regards to custom content. Though I guess it's not likely...

The content you get in the game is paid for. The CC that EA/TSR will have will be downloadable, and pay. The Sims Store was set up to do just that-take your money for the CC you can have only from EA. It will probably be over-priced and of uncertain quality.

There will be no booty, and no free CC anywhere, unless EA allows it. This is their copyrighted material, and anyone caught with it without a license and blessing from EA will face legal consequences.

That's why some modders are very cautious about even thinking about modding the game-it's a legal thing, and believe me, you do not want to get caught in the trap that entails "content theft." 

EA has a lot of lawyers-more than you can shake a stick at-and they can afford to bankrupt anyone breaching their copyrights.

Oh yes, and we almost forgot that as far as forums go, don't expect a Sexysims3 or TS3 section over on insimAdult. But I hope that most people have already figured that out. The whole reason why EA has gone through such great lengths to monopolize the CC isn't just so that they make cash off of it, it's also to insure no "18+" CC ever sees the light of day on TS3. Now I know not everyone makes use of the more adult based content made by users for TS2, so those people will pretty much be unaffected. But I ain't one of 'em. I like my game rated M for mature. I like having "naughty" outfits. I like have my trusty Incendiary Bomb to nuke a useless family's lot. I like having my Sword Play mods & and guns to commit murderous acts of violence in my hoods. (I know, I'm a sick bastard...) There will be no such thing on TS3. For me personally, amongst a whole bunch of other things...totally turns me off getting this game.

As for all of the stuff that seems missing on TS3, fear not though. The game feels empty for a reason. It's so that EA can whore their CC, EPs and SPs to make you spend more money for stuff. That's all it is in the end, folks. EA trying to turn more of a profit while trying to assume less liability for 3rd Party (User Created) content. And so shall begin the slow death of The Sims Franchise. But at least TS2 will continue to thrive. :D

On a side note, can you point me anywhere near these mentioned goodies? In all my years of CC collecting I never ran across these. Usually I don't want to blow away my sims, but it would be a good remedy for the occasional harrassing townie spawning in my hood.

And you're exactly right with your evaluation. I'm pretty sure it's mostly about the 18+ content. They have to sell in America after all and have their pants full to the waist when thinking about all the different pressure groups.

On the other hand, as an adult (maybe as a dirty bastard) I don't want my game to be a childs game. So that's one of the main reasons why TS3 fails to interest.

That was my argument at the adult site to the "I'm not interested in adult mods" reply. "Then what are you doing here? go and find somewhere else to play" ensured it went downhill smartly from there.

Based on the fact that sims in the neighborhood now BUNNY BREED OUT OF CONTROL EVEN WHEN YOU EXPLICITLY DISABLE IT...something on my to-do list, in light of the open neighborhood, is to bring back the BABBY ROASTER. Because with all those annoying sims bunny-breeding without permission, it's time to hit back with OM NOM NOM NOM.

Man did you hit em with viagra or something or don't they have TVs? On a serious note. If they breed out of control you're are going to have a sims version of India, something's gotta give. In the case of PCs I'd probably say the graphics card. It's only gonna handle so many simlets and then GRENADE.

This is equal to terrorist act.   4gah

He's padding his portifolio. See <insert company name>, 100,000 downloads x a hypothetical $50 bucks a pop - KACHING! Am I hired?

There's nothin' like a lil' population control to make a Neighborhood more livable. :D Just thinnin' the herd...

In my game, after playing a while, the town is dying right and left. About two death notices in the paper every day.  About 3 birth announcements a day, tho.  1headwall

That's the thing, I want to be the ONLY authority on who lives and who dies, as well as who reproduces. I know that there's a feature in options that allows you to limit or turn off the chance of offspring being born on family lots not being played on, but that still doesn't change the fact that the time is universal for the whole hood. Which means everyone ages at the same pace. Don't get me wrong, it's a good idea in concept. But in execution it's flawed because if you've created more then one household, they'd end up dieing off if you don't play there lot. Which in turn forces you to keep the storyline progression option on so that they do reproduce. See the problem here? You have no choice in the matter on either end of things. Just another out of a mounting list of flaws that just doesn't make the game very appealing at all.

Before I rebuilt my family's lot, I was reading sims moving out of town and not coming back, then a request to beautify your lots so more would move in town. Since building, those annoucements stopped, but no one has moved in. So maybe they are thinning out...

How original. That was one of the features in sim city. They're plagiarizing their own games.

LOL Abaris. Can't you see TS3 is a mixture of Sims and SimCity? :D

Does this mean we can have Godzilla go through on a rampage as punishment for unauthorized breeding? IhopeIhopeIhope! :D

Sorry, I am not a gamer, just a simmer.  ;)  Didn't know about that feature, but it's good information. Thanks.

LOL, @ Paden. That would be cool!

lewis.. :p  What you apologise for? Abaris' sarcasm was directed at EAxis, not you.

Paden, bring it on. Bring it on I say!

Oh no!!!! No cc? *pouts*

No CC the way we know it now with TS2, Nyx. I'm afraid it might prove to be a difficult to almost impossible task to create those gorgeous Elves of yours in TS3.

If you like fantasy sims, or cool fantasy outfits, or ANYTHING abstract even, do yourself a solid...


Stick with TS2.


Cuz it ain't happenin' on TS3. If you're one of the optimists that keep thinking "oh maybe EA will be nice and..." keep dreaming. It's not happening, and there ain't no heel clicking and wishing upon a star that's changing it. The CC policy for TS3 is pretty much set in stone. So anyone, and I do mean ANYONE who wants to use custom meshes, be they created by others or created by themselves are crap out of luck as far as TS3 goes. That's just the grim reality of it. TS2 offers users a means of artistic expression. TS3 is just a video game. Nuff said.

Precisely. You will be buying a game with an inbuilt paint shop.
Those who choose to buy the thing will more than likely end up with a one of collectors curiosity. I fear once the games limitations begin to sink in sales and interest will begin to drop dramatically.
From a gamers view this thing has all the ingredients for a serious flop. Consider this. Who now has the cash to mess about in the store after saving and budgeting just for the base game, or perhaps even some extra ram. or a bargain elcheapo graphics card?
If I were an investor AE would be last place I would invest in at the moment.
I don't even think EA have any confidence in the game, Why else are they already talking about their next EP. even before the base game has been released.
Months ago the question of an EP. was cast aside for that same reason 'The base game hasn't been released yet'
Now that all the controversy and division amongst the sims fan base is beginning to sink in they are beginning to realise that this thing could be a dud.
It's early days yet, but in the next couple of months this sims 3 debacle will make some very interesting reading.

Precisely. The 1st few months of the game being on the market are going to be the telling tale of it. And just as you stated, people are having to upgrade their rigs just to be able to play the frakkin' thing, let alone having to now shell out cash for content. Big mistake. People are cutting corners to meet daily needs these days, what the heck makes EA think they'll pony up cash for CC? Especially when said CC runs the same price as say...a gallon of milk, or a tank of gas. What part of "Recession" did they miss? They shot themselves in the foot already, and it's going to bleed out slowly. As was stated in another thread, it's already estimated they'll lose close to 9 Million on the torrent leak. They'll lose just as much if not more off of the CC distribution. Especially since it's the ONLY way you can get CC without violating EA's ULA. What's amazing is that you still have people still in denial about it, despite the fact that the FACTS are out and plain as day.

Well, I'm looking into bringing the Babby Roaster to the open neighborhood. Because while in TS2, babby-roasting was mostly a curiosity confined to your lot, in TS3...OM NOM NOM NOM!

That alone would entice me to obtain the bloody game.

Everone that loves TS2 is Going to say WTFITS if you can't even import a car in to the Game never mind a a custom skin or face replacement for the FUGLY stuff I seen so far....  J. M. Pescado lets storm the castle...

The price for your internet connection to be able to access Pescado's Babby Roaster mod: $29.95/month

The Sims 3 Base Game: $59.99

Witnessing the simulated genocide of countless sim children: Priceless

With my Teutonic ancestry I think I can see some merit in this.

Tasteless remark, dude, VERY tasteless.

Maybe a little BBQ sauce would help it taste better, furball.

...or a padlock.