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So many are posting terribly negative comments about a game they have not yet played, those who have played the REAL version (i.e. creators, major gaming sites) seem quite pleased with the game. I would never judge the game by that pirated copy. I find that from what I have seen I like how the game looks, if it got too realistic it would be creepy so I like the look of it. The new gameplay systems seem to be quite well received by those who have had the opportunity to play it. Yes I do have some reservations about the game but that isn't going to stop me from at least trying the real version. It would probably kill the game for me if it is in fact impossible to put in true custom content but I highly doubt that is the case. I'm going to wait and see and give it a fair chance. I'm still excited about the game and want it very much, I can't wait until June 2nd, if it sucks I'll say so but I won't say so until I have it on my computer and I have played it. I just wanted to get that out and hear if anyone else is still excited to see what the game has to offer.

hello and don't worry about a thing you are not the only one looking forward in playing the sims3 i am also looking forward in playing the sims3 as well i have my version of the game preordered since november 2008 and i can not wait june 2 to play the sims 3 as well.

Pierre ;)

to:  simelorian and pierre1

I'm a bit TOO appriensive about sims3 to buy it on it's release date (got too much money and CC in sims2). But i'm sure that you will let us all know what it's really like, right?   :-\  I for one would be interested in reports from actual comunity gamers like yourselves!

To Simelorian and Pierre1: I guess we won't see much of you around once you have your copies then, now will we? Oh well, play in good health and try not to miss the good game of Sims 2 too awfully much now, m'kay? And yes, Simelorian, it's been stated that there will be NO way to get CC into the game unless you are the company and you BUY stuff from their store, so enjoy. I've been reading the same stuff others have and I've been reading between the lines. Too bad others can't hear their own thoughts over the baaaah-ing of "Gee, this looks sooooo cool, thanks EA Games, for ripping us off and giving us crap that looks like Silly Putty to play with!" Even the game mags show stuff that scares me with the fug. They're aiming this totally at the kid market, unlike the last two in the series. Again, enjoy to all those who leave Sims 2 for that. Buh-bye.

Now, I'm looking forward to this, but I'm still going to play TS2. I might not play it as often when I go to college because my brother plays it as well and I don't want to buy another copy of our current expansion pack. But I'm still going to play TS2.

You don't have to give TS2 up when you get TS3. They're separate games.

I never said I was dumping the Sims 2 either. I love the Sims 2. But I'm going to give The Sims 3 a fair shot. I apologize in advance for this Paden but I do not know WHOM ever said (someone whom worked on the game?) there couldn't be any CC. Even if it starts out that way it will most likely only be a matter of time before it is modified to allow it.

I didn't mean you personally, I meant whoever is getting TS3.

I was referring more to Paden ;D

Probably not. Out of several reasons. One of them is the fear factor that has been introduced by the cold coffee debate some years ago. Since then companys have gotten cold feet when it came to modding and more and more games have been made next to impossible to mod. And I'm talking about RPG like games in general.

The other reason is the additional dime to be made by selling custom content.

Well, originally I have been looking forward to that release. But things have changed. I'm not convinced by the screenshots and I'm apalled by the modding policy. If things are to change there's still time enough to purchase it at a later date.

I believe the ones that said it about custom content was the company themselves, you'll just have to start looking around to where they state that the only way to get the content into the game is through their download engine. A friend of mine got an official demo and it stated right in the package that that would be the only way to get content into the game.

Also, said friend did some digging for me and got more details about the whole thing. They've designed it so that the downloader is needed for any and everything. I'm also going to take the words of the modders like Pescado who have been investigating the damn thing over that of the company, because when the company couldn't be arsed to fix their damn bugs, they referred people to HIM! Also, for what it's worth, just so you smug little gits know it, Pescado IS a game engineer and could write code for breakfast, which makes him MORE than qualified to say if it's going to be possible to mod this piece of shite or not. Don't like what I have to say? Then take your 12 year old little butt BACK to the BBS and stay there where people won't tell you the truth.

i just wanted to add that i will still play the sims2 as well but not as ofen

*i said what i wanted to say so i am steping out from this thread ;)

I'll add further to this at the risk of repeating myself and others. They (EA.) once stated that you didn't have to go online with the thing and/or register it.
What they chose not to tell the gullible was that you need their installer to make the thing playable, in order to get the installer you have to register the game.
Just like Quantum Of Solace, you'll be able to play the thing but you can't save.
I said months ago. Why service pack 2? FOR WINDOWS LIVE. Why? for product activation/registration/phone home.
And still people say "no no  that's not true , here look this is what they said" bah! I give up.

I was and probably maybe still am inticipating the release of the game but ya know after all the stuff I am been hearing about the game I am just sick to my stomach about the game and I am not for the bull s**t so right now and I don't think I am going to get it until I see a couple of trust worthy reviews and the truth about the said DRM and sorry I couldn't get all those pictures to load for me on TS3 picture thread but the ones I seen burnt my eyes, I mean those look terrible! what was EA thinking? I know this is only a base game and they plan on smacking us in the face with 7 or 8 more EP's to fill out the game but c'mon is everyone at EA smoking crack!?

Unless it becomes modable, I can see Sim2 outliving Sims 3 LOL

Magic mushrooms. They get it from their pal in Sweden. Its rumoured that they have been wiping them on their last EPs, the heat of the dvd drive breaks out the vapours and when you inhale em you get an uncontrollable urge to throw your money at anything with the sims 3 logo on it. (joking, only joking)
Lighten up, it's only a game, I feel your disapointment, just give pescado and the crew time to pick it appart and in due time we will all know the real truth.

I just don't want to waste my money and find out I have to be online to play because if I do I won't be playing the game long, only because I have dial-up and others need the phone in my house throughout the day so I just want to know if you have to be online to play and I will stfu lol :D

also I am really hoping my computer can run it because I have others complain that have it already that there computers keep shutting down and that seems like either a video card or graphics card issue to me which like I said I checked SRL and it said I was over the minimum mark to play the game so maybe I am fine?

It's the graphics I'm afraid. It sounds like I suspected all along. The suitability test was done to an old 14" crt. screen using 800x660 resolution not the average 19" at 1024x768. And that combined with an iffy low end graphics card will spell overheating which will rapidly lead to cooked graphics card.
If you think that's bad then what about all those that treated themselves to a new 24" widescreen for Xmas not realising that in most cases you also have to beef up your graphics card as well. "WTF! it ran smoothly yesterday, all I  did was plug in a new screen"

It looks like people are focusing a lot of attention on modding. But what about the whole Simming part? Isn't that kind of the point- making a Sim and putting her/him through the trials of a virtual life with those weird, quirky events that are seemingly characteristic of the Sims games, furthering game-play-addiction? I'm not an expert gamer (if there is such a thing) nor am I a modder, nor am I a game engineer, nor am I a 12 year old, but it seems to me that the game allows players to do some sort of modding of their own. Of course it's limited, and looks like just changing colours and patterns, however the world shown in videos and teasers looks pretty detailed and dense: it's like a playground for players who want to to do a little creating and Simming (such as myself) and a watering hole for players who care less about the creating but more about the Simming. And can't we all share our virtual creations online?
We still haven't seen much of the construction aspect of the game- not how the game is constructed but literally building in game. At lease I haven't seen or read much on the topic. I know I ran across something on Snooty Sims stating that build mode will be incorporated at a later time (or something of that nature). What if this build mode is similar to the constructing in Spore? Spore seemed like far less of a game thought up by Will Wright and more like a testing ground to see how a new breed of game would work for the target demographic, which let's be real here was not FPS players but probably Simmers, SimCity fans, Black and White fans, and so on (none of this is new or mind blowing, I'm assuming).
I'm a Maxis faithful, coming across The Sims at far too young an age for something that would rot my brain and cause me to spend oodles of money that should have been saved for college or something as equally important. I've loved everything Sims 2 has had to offer, but quite frankly I'm pretty bored. I've built (what feels like) hundreds of houses, town homes, and apartments; gobbs of bars, clubs, and shopping centres; parks and play grounds; entire Roman cities with toga-sporting Sims. I've played vampires, witches, plant Sims, and robot zombies; gone on island vacations with my upper crust families with twin teenagers; put said teenagers through a university that was made by me; and married those once teenagers to grilled cheese aspiration Sims. I'm done! I've played the hell out of that game and EA is certainly not going to give me anything more to play with in the Sims 2, not saying modders can't.
The Sims 3 looks fun. And new. Works for me.

^lol

                       but seriously

**fingers crossed** that I can run the damned thing

After reading Pescado's review... it looks more like Spore 2.0  :mad:

That may be the point. But I can only repeat the lowest common denominator thing I said in a different thread. The vanilla game has to be fit for 8+ years. If that's enough to keep you entertained for months or even years, it's perfectly OK. Modding added at least some of the more adult aspects of Sims lives and polished out the most serious glitches and annoying habits.

For those hopefuls, more power to you and I hope you'll be satisfied with the game for a long time.  But, even if we haven't played the game, it's all too clear, EA is now all about making even more money than they managed to milk from the faithful "Maxis" followers.  They know that multitudes of blind "Maxis" followers still exist.  They exist even after Maxis died a few years ago and it's obvious from their intentions of releasing a game with Sim's faces akin to Pillsbury's Dough Boy relatives.  Add to that a game tightly controlled by EA's servers, limited objects with the initial purchase, no capability for creating neighborhoods, and the high probability of tough object customization and modding by third parties, and all we have is the new more complex trait system, the capability to change the colors of everything, and two pretty neighborhoods which can't be topographically altered.  From the reports of game testers thus far, there are hardly any elements from TS2 expansion packs (like ceilings) present in the base game, those will all be sold to us, all over again.  And the objects, let's not forget the much needed objects that will only be available at the online store.  So why is everybody screaming so much and looking at June 2 like it's the 2nd coming of the savior? 

I just want to know one thing: How in the ever-loving hell can you enjoy a game that blinds you with the sheer ugly factor of the characters you're supposed to get through a life? Do not want.

I could have told you that without the reviewing bit  :p

Abaris: I actually totally agree with you. I definitely appreciate the atmosphere that was created via mods in my TS2 games, as it seems far more mature now. Something tells me that TS3 'nilla wont be a popular item among 8-year-olds, however definitely the plus range.

I thought our options with physical Sim features were amped up, giving players a huge range of possibilities? I think it will be possible to create that ever sought after starving model look or that chizzled jaw out of Marvel comics.

Paden: Don't make ugly characters? Idk how to help your struggle.

I'm right smack in the middle of the fence on TS3.  I know I won't be banging on the retailer's door on Release Day.  I don't even know when Release Day is.  lol.  Right out of the box, I agree TS3 is not modifiable.  But with people like Peter Jones, Wes, Carrigon and a host of others working on a SimPE like program, who can say what the future will bring.

According to reports, the only way users can share their CC is to upload it using an EA tool to the EA site and then others download it using an EA tool.  Is it going to be that difficult to look in the Downloads folder and copy the file, compress it, and put it onto another site?  How is that going to be regulated?  If the tool is adding a "signature" want to take bets on that being hacked too?

I guess my biggest disappointment is that those that are interested in getting the game can't start a thread about it without the naysayers overrunning the thread with what ever got their goat.  You have your con-TS3 threads.  Let the pro-TS3 people have their platform to get excited.

I don't doubt that we'll see progress made, and CC creation/importation possible. But...where are you going to host this stuff? It'll be considered a breach of the EULA, and as such, no community site will (publicly) host 3rd-party modifications. CC download sites will have to operate in the shadows while hiding from the EA legal department. It just makes me wonder if it's worth it. *shrugs*


That's what the BBS is for. Hah. Seriously though, right now a lot of folks are hurting from the facts that keep emerging, and they need a place to vent. Sadly, this seems to include and all threads that exist on the topic of TS3.

I have read the entire thread on MATY and the reception actually seems to be improving as more time passes and while the UI said to be hard to figure out there are less complaints than I anticipated. One of the more recent posts shows a picture of a sim that actually looks quite good. I still am feeling that the game will be better than anticipated. I'm near 50% on my torrent so I'll do some talking after I play it later tonight or tomorrow (IF IT IS GOOD I ABSOLUTELY INTEND TO BUY IT LEGALLY ;D) We shall see.

There is no struggle for me as I have no bloody intention of ever getting it, either legally or illegally or haven't you bothered to read my statements of: DO NOT WANT!??

If your biggest disappointment is about this...
Pro-TS3 are excited nonetheless, no one smacks them with fish and carrots to stop talking. They are free to talk as much as they like and dance happily till they drop dead.  Seriously, why do you let our anti-TS3 attitude spoil your mood? Do as we do: your happiness can barely make us blink an eye.


Even if she wanted there would be no way for her to avoid ugly characters as the game is right now.

Paden, you have nothing to say that is not negative, you are not willing to at least try the game, I started this thread to find people willing to give it a fair shot not to be bashed for having some hope that the game is not as disastrous as you are making it out to be. I mean come on even Pescado is acknowledging the good in the game without bashing everyone who is optimistic about it. So could you at least let us speak without flipping out and screaming YOUR opinion over and over at us? We have opinions too.

me i know for sure as read the threads that i want the Game and paden don't worry about a thing i respect your choice of not wanting the game same as the other and simelorian me am waiting for june 2  and i know that june2 at 10:00 am i will be at my local ebgame to get my version of the sims3 collector 's edition.

Pierre ;)

Pierre,

I think me and you are probably the craziest Sims3 anticipators as of right now because I seriously am setting my alarm clock for 6 a.m. so I can get to my local wal-mart before everyone swamps the shelves and I don't get my copy on release day 1gah lol is that weird?

That was the whole point of the thread.  To see for themselves if the game lived up to the hype--not to bash it.   To play it and report back to those who want to purchase it with the facts not gushing like babies over a new toy.  The more they play the more they report: likes, dislikes etc.  


Aww I miss the excitement I had about the game  :( seriously.

I was looking forward to it like everyone else--still am really. I just dont want to risk my computer to play the game.  That comes from personal experience not from gossip or "so-called' EA bashing.   So I'm waiting (along with many others) with the hope that EA will either release a better version & prove everyone wrong or that the game is at least free of securom and install limitations & hopefully allows CC.
At any rate you certainly aren't the only ones 3wink.

Let's not bash those who want to make a wise purchase nor those who want to grab it as soon as it comes out, nor be insulted because we each have strong opinions.

At best I will have saved my money & computer if the company was dishonest.  Or I'll purchase a good game that I enjoy-- missing out on the novelty trinkets I would have gotten with the collector's edition.   For me it isn't worth risking my cash prior to the games release.  Still it shouldn't be an Us (TS2 players) vs them (TS3 players) mentality.  We're all sims lovers aren't we?


Anyhoo hugs to those who want the game, hugs to those who don't wanna touch it with a ten foot pole ;D.  I appreciate you all.   1angel *flits off to paint rainbows* 3yay

Whether the game is good or bad is not the issue. The issue is CC. and the effect it will have on this site and others that just like this one are based wholly and solely on the creation and more importantly on the FREE distribution of said CC. as well as mods, hacks.
None of this is going to be possible with this new thing. So the implications for sites as this that we all take for granted now are no good. Understood!
The pros and cons of gameplay can be freely discussed at the BBS where there hundreds of like minded whatever's all hanging out for the s--t.
For years people have relied on these sites for all kind support and fixes for these blasted games, none of which was forthcoming from EA.
A lot of very talented people have put a lot of their time and money into ensuring that we all can experience trouble free game play as well as some unbelievable CC.And EA has basically thumbed their nose at all this, Which if you get your heads out of the clouds and have a look around  you will see is the only reason that the game has survived to this day.
By running blindly and buying this garbage you are only endorsing EAs policy on this.
The only CC. you will get is going to be crappy recolours or some other junk to make the thing reasonably attractive and mainly for a price.
If enough people exercised a bit of patience and restraint it will force EAs hand and we can have an Insim.3 and such, and all enjoy the game as it should be played.

I completely see your point Roerzman.  Mine was only that several threads have been dedicated to sims3 pros and cons & I think Simelorian was looking for responses from those that are looking forward to the games arrival, not more debate.

The pros and cons of every EP that came out for TS2 were freely discussed on this site.  I don't recognize your name from those days, maybe you were here under a different name.  If you were then you would recall those discussions.  They included game play possibilities.  I wasn't aware of a change in policy with the change in ownership.  Just because some people are buying into the whole anti EA everything and are looking forward to the game doesn't mean they aren't familiar with the pitfalls.  I know it is a stretch, but it is possible EA is putting a bug free game on the table with enough variation in gameplay that modding isn't necessary.  Ok, I did say it was a stretch.

Just a players have the right to buy it or not buy it, they have the right to accept the gameplay or reject it and the game.  Yes, EA may have gotten the money for the base game, but when revenue drops from projections for Store and EP sales, maybe they will listen.

As far as the future of this site and other fansites that support TS2, they will be around as long as people are still playing TS2.

That was mainly aimed at those that frequent the BBS and are all cooing about the game and very vocal about the criticism that is being directed at it. They are mainly too thick to realise that without the CC, sites and technical expertise supplied from these sites the game would have fizzled out years ago, you only play a vanilla dolls house game with all it's bugs for so long.
A lot of those voices are also praising tsr. not realising what that lot have given to the game that they are now playing. The answer is simple. F--- ALL in big lumps.
It was MTS. and Insim. just to mention a few, that ensured the success and continuation of the game, not those bludgers at tsr that EA. seems to be so fond of lately.

I find your comment insulting and disrespectful. You are freaking out and very negative about something that is still unofficial. Anyhow, nobody force you to buy that game. I don’t know if I will like TS3 as much as TS2, and it breaks my heart when I think about all the money I spend on TS2, however I like to hear different opinions. It will be more fascinating when the game will be out. 1wink

I'm excited about the game :D (pre-ordered it in Dec.)

I for one hope one of the first things on the CC request  list for Sims3 is Blooms sexy feet, the boots blocks feet they have now are awful.


here, here  1beer


You shouldn't take anyone else's opinion personal.  Everyone has a right to express themselves here.   Being open to hearing different opinions means you might hear some you don't like.  C’est la vie.

You know, Simelorien, you are free to express your opinion. I am free to express mine, as well. As someone that helped to get two sites off of the ground where invasive DRM is concerned, and as someone that demands and expects quality from the company I once bought games from, I am vocal when it comes to the fact that I don't wish to see fellow consumers ripped off by a series of games that we all love each in our own way. From what I have read and seen with my own eyes, that is what looks like is going to happen to those that buy this latest entry into the Sims franchise.

If you choose to see my words and phrasings as an attack, that's you. If you want to buy and play it, go for it. If you enjoy it, even better. I'm just putting the fact out there that this is not what we should expect from a company that is capable of making great games. The buildings look great, and the build mode itself sounds easier to use. But, and this is a big one, the characters we're supposed to play do not look appealing at all to someone that is accustomed to the high quality of content that is offered on this and many other sites like it.

You may say that gamers will get to enjoy the same kind of quality in time, but why should they have to wait? Surely, the people at EA have seen what can be done with customization when it comes to hair, eyes, etc, so why can they not put that in the game before it goes onto the shelves of our local stores? Easy answer for that one: money. They want to make as much cash as possible from people desperate to get rid of the eye-searing yuck that those models seem to be made of.

Pescado states that the game could be highly moddable, if it were open source. It is  not open source, however. It is closed source, which means that if someone does alter it, that could mean prison time for them due to Federal laws which govern such things. Should that change at any time, then you will see sites like this one flourish, but until then, don't count on them being around all that much unless you are willing to pay for content from them. Those sites will have to buy the right to have a downloader such as the one EA Games will be employing to get content into your game, and you know darn well that the cost of said software will be passed down to the customer. They will no doubt have to cut the company in on any profits made, as well.

Had this game lived up to expectations, then I probably would have looked forward to as much as the rest of you that want it do. From what I've seen of screenshots and heard from people that are playing this leaked copy, though, it's not living up to much. Some people are having problems with their graphics cards melting. Others can't switch between modes without crashing. That just makes me suspicious, sad to say. I hope with all of my heart, I honestly do, that none of you are left disappointed and feeling cheated should the game not live up to your hopes. But, that doesn't mean that I'm going to shut up about the draw backs that I'm seeing. Enjoy.

ETA: Annie, you have no idea what it's like when I do freak out, so keep that kind of comment to yourself before it hits your keyboard. I find your large type and colour insulting and disrespectful, truth be told. Nobody forced you to read my comments, either. If you don't like what I had to say, grow a thicker skin because not everyone agrees with everyone else 100% of the time. If you take everything personally that is written on the internet, then you must walk around sad a good deal of the time. I just hope that none of you are left let down and ticked off if this thing isn't the Golden Fleece that so many people are thinking it is.

Play the game to see if it's any good??
The moment you flop your cash on the counter it becomes a + on their sales graph whether you enjoy the game or not is irrelevant. That does not register on the sales graph.
When the graph hits it's projected target they all troop to the board room and the champagne corks pop. Then it's 'wow! we pulled that one off, right now for phase 2, release the EP"

To all the other critical comments I might add: Don't think for a minute, that EA or any other game company are your friends. I always get the impression, that some people go on a crusade to defend "their" company as if they were part of the PR department or if they had just another beer with their buddies from over there.

Would you do the same for your telephone company? Or closer to home, would you do it for Microsoft, probably supplying the system of your rig? And even more so, would you do it, if they delivered a product, that needs several revisions and paid upgrades to make it useable?

For months I've been curious about this game. I've been reading literally hundreds of posts about it for the past week.

In the Prism forum, I actually admitted that I even had a urge to buy it. I was highly curious as to how it would work-but did not realize that the game would be leaked onto the net so early.

The dozens of impressions and reviews at MATY are not all negative. There are some nice parts, and there are some really bad parts-unfortunately, the bad, in my mind, outweighs the good. Which means I am not going to spend money that I cannot afford to waste on a game that is not even close to my expectations.

I had very high expectations and hopes for this game. It's possible (but unlikely) that this was a planted leak and that EA is withholding the "real" game until the release day. It is also possible that the released game is better in quality than this leaked one (also unlikely).

I wanted information-and I have gotten it. It's not worth the time or money to get it right now-and I will admit that EA has the right to lock down it's own copyrighted material. The fact that they have should not surprise anyone. How many companies do you know of allow other people to modify their product?

Not many-and for them to "step back" from allowing others to do so is not surprising knowing that EA has probably lost more money on the 3rd party modding that took place in Sims 2. That they wish to recoup this money by making it impossible to mod it or share content is not unbelievable, but it is disgusting, knowing that the Sims 2 was the hit it was because of the modding and CC sharing.

I really don't want to be negative about this game. I did want the game to be good, because I had been looking forward to buying it myself, in time. I don't like seeing other people hurt by the lack of consideration shown to them by a corporation which is now focused on their bottom line so much that they disregard their entire fanbase by totally taking over the controls which they previously allowed others to have.

They just didn't see it from our point of view, and decided their point of view would rule. That's why we're so hard on them. We're used to our hacks, mods and CC so much that we were expecting the same, from a company that is having problems in their bottom line.

Simply put, it was a matter of money. They want it, they need it, and they will get it any way they can right now because they don't really care about us-they care about their stockholders and their own existence.

We're simply the customer, who is not always right. We're the reason they're still in business, and they have just forfeited our business by doing this outrageous move to remove nearly all ability to modify or create for the game.

It's sad that we are all so polarized by this company and it's stupidity. It shouldn't be this way.

I have never enjoyed a game as much as I have The Sims 2. Having read the reviews and comments at MATY thoroughly, I see both sides, but frankly, I'm not interested in a similar Sims game that can't be modded. For me, that feature provides the appeal. If I had to play the Sims 2 using only EA's content, I would have tired of it long ago. The main reason I Like Sims 2 is that is is infinitely adjustable in terms of its look and feel. I remain skeptical of The Sims 3 and will continue to monitor comments from users before I plop down one more dollar to EA Games on this one. I can wait. And I can live without it if it turns out to be a bust.

Looking at the various screenshots and reading the feedback at MATY I keep getting this feeling that this thing should really be called sims 1.5 A transition between sims 1 and 2.
About the only redeeming feature it does have from my point of view, is the variety of personality traits.
From a gamers point, you're certainly not getting bang for your buck, this is something that could seriously irritate one after only hours of play.
I can't believe they spent 4 years developing this,
Disregard the glitches and mod issue. You have characters that only marginally improve from sims 1 in terms of detail and aesthetics. Their needs appear to decay rapidly so you constantly have to feed and rest them. Micro management is a serious issue,left to their own devices they appear to drop everything and do as they please according to their individual personalities. It looks to me like this rabbit hole thing is actually a last minute correction to keep the system demands down so that it can be played on Granny's computer.
The whole thing really should have had another year or so in the shop being refined instead of being bundled up ad-hock and released to fit to a schedule.
I think for them to call this a progression is an abuse of terms. In most cases it is a step back.
The initial sales will probably be OK. but that's where it will stop. I think many copies of the game will probably start gathering dust after a couple of days and will no doubt discourage many people from buying the next EP.
Once bitten twice shy. This is not the time to start messing with peoples money by passing them some badly constructed C grade game beaten up to be a blockbuster.
This is just my view of it as a gamer. I judge these things by how much fun , interest, enjoyment I get from the things and also if I will play it again. This thing at the moment goes into the same category as Playboy Mansion.A WOFTAM, waste of f------ time and money.

the more i read about the  Sims3 Game the more i want including the expansion packs and stuffpacks that would be coming out as well so let there be sims.

Pierre ;) ;D

Good for you, Pierre1!.  Maybe if EA acquired more and more devoted fans, in spite of what they've become lately, they would eventually start producing Sim games everybody would want again, just like the good old days when they had the real Maxis team.  Too bad so many of us will no longer support them, in my case basically for what they did to the Sim City franchise, and now The Sims.  It was good while it lasted.

Well I'll be one to say also that I've fallen in love with this game ever since the I got my first Sims game which was the just The Sims when it was just another game I played then when I was bored but now it's a game I can't live without it's like water, When The Sims 2 came out I became obsessed I'm still playing my sims 2 games (I have the whole collection) but when june 2nd comes I bet you it won't take 5 days before I get addicted to The sims 3 and The Sims 3 creators haven't left me dissapointed before I'm pretty sure we have alot to expect from the creators and I'm very excited just hold the case of my pre-ordered Sims 3 box you make think I'm crazy but I've been marking the days on my calendar!!!(maybe I need help)

It's called detox.They mainly cater for celebs. who can't hold their alcohol. but I'm sure they should be able to fit in the odd sims addict.

Well I have now actually had hands on experience with this game and I now HUMBLY state that I was indeed far too optimistic.  :(

THE GOOD...

I love not having to constantly input cheats to rotate things and place them off of the grid.

I love Create A Style WHEN IT WORKS, I couldn't get it to work on stairs or fences at all and I was like oh NOES! On top of that you can't recolor the hardware on doors separately. I'm sure there are more things it DOESN'T work on. When it did work it took forever for it to change.

The water and sky effects were awesome.

Bikes are cool.

The open neighborhood has potential, but only potential, none of it realized.

THE BAD AND THE UGLY...  :mad:

The animations are either non-existent (getting in and out of cars) or are crappy (Sims stop for long periods before doing anything).

The Sims are horrendous, I thought that perhaps people were missing parts of CAS but I was wrong, I looked for hours and the tools that were there didn't do too much at all. I would love the weight adjuster if it was more selective and allowed for more tweaking than simple fat and muscle. The Sims look like the spawn of a TS1 Sim and a TS2 townie. The eyes bother more than anything else they're verging on creepy. The voice adjuster is nifty but I don't find it a big plus.

The graphics in most aspects, at least to me, are downgraded or flatline from TS2.

Many objects and clothes bleed through terribly.

Their textures and patterns are mostly terrible.

The lighting sucks.

The UI is confusing, inefficient, crowded and did I say CONFUSING!

Very little music.

Following them to work does indeed SUCK!

The clocks higher speeds are barely higher at all.

Relationships are hard/confusing.

GOOD GOD I COULD GO ON.  2mad

I only see two glimmers of hope in the end.
1) this is an early BETA (I know it's not likely but you never know)
2) enough people realize how bad this is, boycott it and cause a Batman like reboot to take place resulting in ensuing awesomeness down the road. At the moment I want to go find a torch and pitchfork somewhere and march on EA's headquarters and the creators (DAMN YOU BEN BELL) and skewer their brains for zombie style kabobs . >:D

Now in order to entertain myself for a while I'm going to do a clean TS2 install and start my legacies over. I hope that until EA realizes what the HELL they are doing that TS2 community lives long and prospers. :cool:

I'm hearing ya, to me they all look like they all have downs syndrome.

me i will still buy the game because i want it since this is my pass time when i don't know what to do and secondly its not to encourage the company thats make the game but because its a choice i made and don't forget that maybe the finish Product that will be in the market June might be more complete than the beta version of the game and Simelorian don't lose hope to fast i will let you know my tough of the game when i get it June 2 and my motto is don't judge a book or a game to quickly the finish version may be more complete than the test version of the game. ;)

Pierre ;)

It's not what you said about EA that was bothering me, because truthfully I don't really care about EA. I was under the impression that the last comment of your post was putting down Simelorian. Obviously I was wrong and I apologize if I misunderstood. I don't think anything personal and I welcome any constructive opinions whether I share it or not. Besides, after what I went through in my life, I can certainly say that I have a thick skin. It’s not some game situation that would really affect me. I hear your concerns and I share some with you. I invest a truck load into TS2 and I am worried about the disappointment TS3 could be. :-\

I'm sorry if the colour offend you, it was not my intention. Purple is my favorite colour and the type was just Italicized. :-[

I ask for forgiveness if my English is not clear. It is not my first language. ;)

agreed. i'm sticking with sims 2 until i see some darn good sims 3 custom content that i can download right away.

Since there has already been so much bad news, here's a good tidbit:   There is already a working test mod at MATY.  So yes there is some light at the end of this tunnel.

But the question remains if its on the legal side of matters. Otherwise you can only distribute things under the desk in a manner of speaking. According to the community this seems to be the core of the problem.

It is the core of the problem and (imo) a slap in the face to long time simmers/modders/creators.  I mean they took the time to try and make this "unmoddable" & decided on pay only CC.   So much for caring for your loyal fan base.

Who knows though?  Economic times being what they are they might change thier mind...but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting.

Me neither. In general the industry produces more and more what I like to call throwaway games. So instead of making it moddable, they rather discontinue the support if it doesn't sell. I have seen this with a couple of games and it will probably also be EAs approach.

Has anyone read the new TS3 EULA? From section 3:

Does this mean that if a player uploads his/her creation on Exchange EAxis maintains the right to sell his/her creation and do whatever they like with that CC? Because, this is what *I* understand by that statement.

Edit: Find a link to TS3 EULA at Wednesday17's post here: http://www.insimenator.org/index.php/topic,103575.msg1530949.html#msg1530949

It can't have any different meaning.

that statement must surely put paid to T$R then? Or am I being waaaaaaaaaay too optimistic there?

I thought I was the only one excited about the game

D'dont worry annie your not the only one excited about the sims3 i am exicted as well and as soon as i arrive from my loacl eb game store i will be playing the sims3 all day. ;)

As am I! I can understand why people are skeptical, but it's still not managing to curb my enthusiasm.  ;D

I can see some miracles around and I believed them since the beggining  2hug 1rock 3yay

I will never again believe EA Games after they stated that SecuROM was harmless. One or two reformats later, I know better than to trust them. I hope it goes well for all of you that decide to purchase and play the game, though.

*nods*
Yes, guys and galls. We, TS2 fans, do hope and wish you will enjoy your game. Even if TS3 weren't so ugly, the game-play would still be horrible for me -- I am used to play 15 families in turns. No legacy style, thank you very much. Cloud will never die. LOL

I'm just looking at it as a whole different game and less of an extension (definitely not as a replacement) of TS2. That's the reason I'm still excited! I'm just getting another game and not loosing a thing! I am bummed about the CC thing, but I guess I'll just deal with it as it goes.

I am exited for it... I'm also a little affraid that maybe the final version is like the pirated one. But I'll still reserve any comments to the day that the official release will come out because that's when the truth will come. I'm not saying the people who got the pirate version are liars but I can't be sure of anything, since this could as well not be the final version.

Oh and if no CC can be done for Sims 3, I'll still purchase it. I'm not much of a modder (I only know a few things to do with SimPE), so I'm looking forward to the gameplay... Plus being able to change the colours of anything, without having any modding skills is quite a fun feature to me. Mismatched furniture begone!

Depending on the gameplay, I will or will not play it as my main Sims game.

Oh and one last thing, I'll still play (and dload things for) Sims 2, regardless of what Sims 3 turns out like... Heck, I even still play Sims 1 sometimes!  ;D

I am extremely excited to play this game, although i am disappointed in the skins.