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Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on April 28, 2006, 02:54:29 pm
As requested:
This mod prevents adult Sims from dressing like mascots works with cheerleaders, Lamas, and evil mascots.

NOTE:

April 13th, 2011:

Only the EP2-EP3 versions are compatible with AL and MG.


EP1 is required to use this mod.
This mod is compatible with FFS & GLS.
5/08/06 I just posted another version that prevents all mascots from dressing like mascots.
 
Only download one file.
noadultmascotsEP1.zip (EP1 University)
NoadultmascotsEP2-EP3.zip (EP2/EP3/FFS/GLS)
nomascotsEP1.zip (EP1 University)
nomascotsEP2-EP3.zip (EP2/EP3/FFS/GLS)
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Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Ozzucay on April 28, 2006, 04:01:05 pm
You bet your booty I'll be testing this as soon as I get home! Huzzah! :hello2:


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on April 28, 2006, 04:12:41 pm
Quote from: Ozzucay
You bet your booty I'll be testing this as soon as I get home! Huzzah! :hello2:
Thanks it should work but I had no way to test it there are never any sims willing to help me test new mods, lol


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Ozzucay on April 28, 2006, 04:55:06 pm
OK here are the results some preliminary testing:
HCDU showed no conflicts with any mods I already have installed.
 
1) Sent former cow mascot (Spencer) to community lot from home while wearing normal clothes: He arrived still in his normal clothes. Sent him back home and he arrived home in normal clothes, too.
 
2) From another house I used Insim to summon Spencer. Before he would always show up in the cow costume. Now he showed up in normal outfit.
 
3) From a community lot I used Insim to summon Spencer (he is the only former mascot I currently have). He again arrived in normal clothes.
 
It seems to be working fine. When I get back later tonight I'll so some more testing without using insim. I just tried that because I'm in a hurry and wanted to try it out and didn't want to wait for him to be a walkby.
 
This is just great!  :beer:


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on April 28, 2006, 05:00:22 pm
Quote from: Ozzucay
It seems to be working fine. When I get back later tonight I'll so some more testing without using insim. I just tried that because I'm in a hurry and wanted to try it out and didn't want to wait for him to be a walkby.
This is just great! :beer:
Thank you very much for letting me know I really appreciate it.:beer:


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Ozzucay on April 29, 2006, 12:06:01 am
I'm finally back home so I'll let you know how it goes. There's still some other tests I want to run, so I guess some of my sims in college get to progress for a change. :)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on April 29, 2006, 12:16:43 am
Quote from: Ozzucay
I'm finally back home so I'll let you know how it goes. There's still some other tests I want to run, so I guess some of my sims in college get to progress for a change. :)
Ok Thank You:)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Ozzucay on April 29, 2006, 11:57:55 am
I can't make it not work! It doesn't conflict with anything that I can see. I other words, it is wonderful! Thank you. Thank you. Now I keep my promise and love you forever.


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: MissDoh on April 29, 2006, 04:05:18 pm
Quote from: Ozzucay
I can't make it not work! It doesn't conflict with anything that I can see. I other words, it is wonderful! Thank you. Thank you. Now I keep my promise and love you forever.


Am I the only one that find this answer confusing? :smt104

So you can't make it work and you will love Squinge forever for that, lol :tongue5:


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on April 29, 2006, 04:18:56 pm
Quote from: MissDoh
Am I the only one that find this answer confusing? :smt104
 
So you can't make it work and you will love Squinge forever for that, lol :tongue5:
What that means is can't get it not to work meaning it works like it's supposed to:)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: MissDoh on April 29, 2006, 04:44:47 pm
Oh sorry... Somehow when I read the phrase, my mind simply pass over the word "not".  I tried again and keep reading I can't make it work!

Stupid mind.... D'oh! (Please look at my avatar while you read this)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Ozzucay on April 29, 2006, 06:50:00 pm
Quote from: MissDoh
Oh sorry... Somehow when I read the phrase, my mind simply pass over the word "not". I tried again and keep reading I can't make it work!
 
Stupid mind.... D'oh! (Please look at my avatar while you read this)

Well, it *was* a lame attempt at humor....


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: kathy on April 30, 2006, 01:08:09 am
Thanks!!


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: johndoe32 on April 30, 2006, 08:21:15 am
Huuray no more cows in my community lots
a big muh (thx)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: FzzyDg8 on April 30, 2006, 09:43:08 am
I've been wanting this one for quite some time...thank you!


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: yukonpizza on May 01, 2006, 09:36:27 am
Now if you can just get rid of that Lizard and Duck on TV, we will all have a Merry Christmas!

Actually.... I like the Duck!


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Qwigqwag on May 07, 2006, 10:14:55 am
Any chance you can also change the former mascot YA's that are now playable characters?  My sim fell in love with one of them darn mascots so he had to move in to the dorm with her but, of course, he's still running around with his stupid costume.
Thanks for considering.


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: XPTL297 on May 07, 2006, 10:47:40 am
Well I got confused here too! I read something about hiding the costumes and now no Adult mascot. I would like to know if the mod forces the mascot to take out the stupid masks. Not that it will be anything better 'cause at least in my game all mascots are generated from the most ugly of the start models (normally the one that looks like be chewing a mouth harmonica and the other that looks like a half stekt pannkake)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on May 07, 2006, 10:57:08 am
Quote from: XPTL297
Well I got confused here too!
This mod makes the adults dress in normal clothes if they used to be a mascot:)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on May 08, 2006, 12:03:46 am
Quote from: Qwigqwag
Any chance you can also change the former mascot YA's that are now playable characters?
If i made a mod to do that then all mascots would dress in every day clothes & wouldn't look like mascots:)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: XPTL297 on May 08, 2006, 05:47:42 am
Sorry Squinge but this was exactly what I was looking for. I would like to have those masks as custom contents (got from Morague already) and would like that the YA mascots didn't look like mascots. Reason: they are butt ugly without the mask and it is not possible to butcher ...err surgery their faces cause they show up like masks on the surgery machine screen.
They take the masks to enter the hot tub or swimming-pool and this is enough to bring the wish to kill them.


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on May 08, 2006, 05:52:43 am
Quote from: XPTL297
Sorry Squinge but this was exactly what I was looking for
Ok I will post another version in a little while:)
 
edit: do you want it for all of them including cheerleaders?


Title: New Alternate Version Available(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on May 08, 2006, 09:42:34 pm
I just posted another version that prevents all mascots from dressing like mascots.


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: wildstar24 on May 14, 2006, 01:26:56 pm
I've been looking for this fix for ages!

Do you think you might make a version that includes an elders fix?  The 2 previous cheerleaders I have are both elders and they're still walking around in those hideous llama costumes - argh!


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on May 14, 2006, 01:34:13 pm
Quote from: wildstar24
I've been looking for this fix for ages!
 
Do you think you might make a version that includes an elders fix? The 2 previous cheerleaders I have are both elders and they're still walking around in those hideous llama costumes - argh!
Have you planned their every day outfits to something different?  you may have to do that before this mod will make them change out of those clothes :)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: wildstar24 on May 14, 2006, 03:30:58 pm
Quote from: Squinge
Have you planned their every day outfits to something different?  you may have to do that before this mod will make them change out of those clothes :)


I haven't tried changing their outfits - I'll give that a go; thanks.  :)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: jordi on May 30, 2006, 04:32:39 pm
My Sim wanted to marry a Llama mascot, but after marriage he could not be moved in even though the marriage was accepted and succesful. I moved him in using the teleporter shrub, but the mascot remained a young adult. I had to fix him using the agesimscheat.

I did a test, and this mod seems to be the cause: marrying a mascot without this mod in place works normally: the mascot is converted to an adult with a college graduation.

Could you look into this?


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Ozzucay on May 30, 2006, 06:12:55 pm
OK. I know that if you have an adult sim propose move in or marriage with a townie uni student (not a controllable character), that YA ages to adult and moves into the house. I have never been able to make that work with a non-controllable mascot. Even way back when I only had the base game and uni and no mods of any kind. I'm confused. Should that have worked? :scratch:


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: jordi on May 30, 2006, 07:24:35 pm
Mascots/cheerleaders are just like other service NPCs, you can fully interact with them. This means that you can propose them, move them in, marry them, knock them up etc.. Worked for me in any case.

In an unmodded game they're a tad annoying in that they will still have some of their old behaviour though, and will always dress in their mascot/cheerleader outfit on comm lots. This mod fixes that. But in the process it seems to have somehow broken mascots in other ways.

All service NPCs keep some of their old behaviour by the way: if you marry a burglar they'll always be able to sneak, and burglars, cops, firemen and possibly others will always have no traversal costs.

Only the bus/taxi drivers and the nonplayables such as SS workers and repo men can't and shouldn't be interacted with at all.


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Ozzucay on May 30, 2006, 09:58:51 pm
Quote from: jordi
Mascots/cheerleaders are just like other service NPCs.
Not exactly. Besides retaining silly uniforms on community lots after college, mascots personality and behaviours are retained and uneditable. I know, I've tried (very hard). Change a mascot's personality (at least an evil mascot's) using either the insim or simpe and it reverts back to the maxis defined personality the next time the lot is loaded. I've never had that happen with any other NPCs.
 
Quote from: jordi
knock them up
Knocking up female NPCs corrupts their character file. At least so I've read. Unless you've made them selectable and keep them on the lot for the duration of the pregnancy.
 
Quote from: jordi
burglars, cops, firemen and possibly others will always have no traversal costs.
Beat me with a stupid stick if you like, but I don't know what that means.
 
It's funny, when I first got uni one of the first things I tried was to have a college graduate, once she moved into a house in the main neighborhood, propose to her college boyfriend who was a llama mascot. And she couldn't do it. Couldn't propose marriage, couldn't propose that he move in either. I had to go back to the college, move him into a dorm, and play out his entire college life. Other sims had no problem with fiancees that were townies. Had I had that first sim propose the move in to her mascot lover while she was still at college, there would have been no problems.


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: jordi on May 31, 2006, 03:29:58 am
Quote from: Ozzucay
Not exactly. Besides retaining silly uniforms on community lots after college, mascots personality and behaviours are retained and uneditable.

Such as days left in age, I know. There's ways around that though.
 
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Knocking up female NPCs corrupts their character file. At least so I've read. Unless you've made them selectable and keep them on the lot for the duration of the pregnancy.

In fact you can't get an uncontrollable Sim pregnant. If somehow you do, it won't corrupt their character file (unless you are messing with uninteractables such as the hula zombie), but the pregnancy will go wrong. I was referring to former NPCs.
 
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Beat me with a stupid stick if you like, but I don't know what that means.

No traversal costs means their needs do not go down from walking as it does for all other Sims. This is most noticable on the huge lots: send a normal Sim and a former NPC from corner of the lot to the other, if all other things (personality, asp, starting needs) are equal the normal Sim will have significantly more needs decay than the former NPC.
 
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(…)Had I had that first sim propose the move in to her mascot lover while she was still at college, there would have been no problems.

I did the proposing unto engagement in college. It gives a nice bonus for graduation party scores.


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: XPTL297 on May 31, 2006, 05:02:00 am
Hi Squinge! I did a strange experiment and worked somehow (didn't understand much but must be related to your mod). Well, I used my selective hydrangea (:lol:) and selected a horse named Robi Somewhat, a mascot that is butt ugly. Tried to surgery his face and I got only the horse face.
Well, I used Insimenator and clicked "Age to ... YA" (though he IS an YA). Well, his thumbnail changed to a nude Sim and he is showing regular clothing. SO I COULD surgery his face because the horse face was GONE. Hurray!

Another problem : before (on time) I could invite an YA to a normal hood, control-mind her and make her pregnant, get the baby and leave it there.
Now (after FFS) I can no more do this. The YA shows as No aging Sim and pregnance is no more available to them. I cannot even make a regular Sim living in Uni to get pregnant. They DO get pregnant but the pregnance do not develop. Using Insimenator to check pregnance stand, it states nothing but just that the pregnance froze at 25 days pregnant.
Is that included with FFS or do I have a mod that makes it so?


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on May 31, 2006, 05:18:36 am
Quote from: jordi
Could you look into this?
yes I can :),that is strange I don't know how the "npc put an outfit on me" function would cause that now I'm curious to find out.
Quote from: Ozzucay
mascots personality and behaviours are retained and uneditable.
The reason for that is you would have to remove all of the template mascot code from the character file & replace it with template person to make them act like normal sims.


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on May 31, 2006, 05:21:20 am
Quote from: XPTL297
Is that included with FFS or do I have a mod that makes it so?
I'm not sure it may be an FFS problem, I have never tried doing that before maybe someone else can give you a better answer.


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Ozzucay on May 31, 2006, 07:01:57 am
I think what it boils down to is that the mascot code is bugged. Stupid Maxis.
 
*edit*
Squinge, I thought you should know that I have never had the problems XPTL described regarding the pregnancies. All my uni pregnancies have worked fine. I don't think that's related to this mod.
 
I'm in the middle of trying an experiment with a clean game (no CC at all) to see if I can make an adult move in a uni mascot. It has never worked for me in the past, but I may as well try again. Then I'll try with only this mod installed to see if there is an effect. I'll let you know how it comes out. Unfortunately I can't finish until lunch, I'm at work.:sad5:
 
*edit #2*
Clean game - Could not propose move in to uni mascot
Game with noadultmascots installed - Still could not propose move in to uni mascot
It doesn't look to me like this mod makes any difference at all. Except that adult former mascots don't wear costumes to community lots.


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Squinge on May 31, 2006, 07:11:44 pm
Quote from: Ozzucay
*edit #2*
Thanks for the information, that saves me from wasting my time, I really appreciate it :)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: Ozzucay on May 31, 2006, 07:56:43 pm
By the way, all my former mascots age normally. :)


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: unclesparks on September 11, 2006, 02:05:19 pm
I wish I had this mod sooner!  My college girl married and had twins with the school horse.  When she graduated and he moved in with her he kept the stupid hat no matter how much money I sunk into a new wardrobe.  I couldn't take it and eventually arranged for him to meet with a satellite.  And now you tell me I didn't have to kill him? Aaargg!!!!


Title: EP1 required:No Adult Mascots New Alternate Version(5/08/06)
Post by: simpress on October 05, 2006, 05:49:35 am
OMG, THANK YOU!!!  I've been looking for something like this and an angel directed me to this site!  Many thanks!


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