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I love how those idiots don't even admit that negative opinions exist, don't you?

No wonder they can't help anyone, 1.4 millions requests for help, they're overloaded.

Wow, I thought they expected to loose all of their well earned profit due to piracy? They forget all about their whining? :D
I do not "embrace" a game, am I crazy or what? Okay, I am, but not that kind of crazy. :eek:

All anyone has to do is go to Amazon and see the real truth. The Sims 3 only got 2 and a half stars. We should be used to stuff like this, EA is used to lying. After all they are the ones who said the leaked game was "buggy" and "unstable" but there seems to be no proof to back any of their claims up. No doubt that sales will be good in the beginning, you've always got to factor for brand loyalty and hype, but those are wearing off and I think sales will reflect that accordingly.

Now that makes it interesting. Spore only got 1 star.

I am so laughing. 1.4 Million copies sold. Sure.

I wonder how many of those have been returned with demanded refunds.

They're probably not lying. EA was advertising like crazy and people were preordering expecting it to be some kind of a miracle. They probably have sold 1.4 million copies, but that is worldwide and it says nothing about how the game is received. The two stars at amazon don't say anything about sales. They only say that those people already having the game and bothering to score their purchase don't think too high of it.

Well, it doesn't matter too much to EA if the 1.4 million who bought the game like the game or not... they have their money now, and that's all that matters.  If there's anyone dissatisfied with what they got, that's pretty much tough luck for them money-wise, unless they attempt to sell it online somewhere.   Plus, all that does is encourage them to keep doing what they want to do, not what we as customers would like to see more of... unless there's enough people who really scream hard enough to catch their attention, like what happened during the SecuRom fiasco.  :P

Well-put.

I believe that many people bought this game because this version is riding on the coattails of one of most prominent PC franchises out there ... Sims 1 and Sims 2. I think that many people bought the game expecting it to be even better than its predecessors. After all, Sims 2 improved in so many ways upon Sims 1. The Sims 3 commercials promised so much more ... an open neighborhood full of potential.  Everything looked so shiny and pretty! Even I was fascinated, at first.

But EA left out a few details, didn't they?  :mad:

I believe that many people ... no, not all ... are sorely disappointed that the actual experience wasn't close at all to the hype, once they bought the game. The Amazon reviews show that. But as Tenshii~Akari wrote, it doesn't matter. EA got its money, and is happy as a clam. They probably see no reason to change now. They're making money. Who cares if so many of their customers feel cheated? Who cares if customers use the game box as a doorstop?

This rather diminishes any hopes that the next expansion will take your breath away with its content and gameplay. Now EA feels that it's in the catbird seat. People will buy the expansion, even if it gets a half-star on Amazon. Even if its pure garbage. And EA will push more and more of its overpriced content on its website. Hey ... people are buying!

And hey, if there are problems, there are nameless people out there who will fix them. People who will put in the work, make the effort, and do what the developers of The Sims should have done in the first place. Developers who are PAID to do this.

Same old, same old. EA's behavior is sickening.

Exactly what I said months ago. It's all about meeting a sales target. Reach or exceed the target and the champagne corks pop and sale numbers are treated as an endorsement of their crap.
Hold back and allow the projected target to fail and EA. will come to the party and give us something good.
Nah! 1.4 million desperado's have given EA. the thumbs up to churn out more substandard garbage.
And now the EP. cycle begins, release after release of half baked tripe, and I was hoping to get the game next year in the belief that things will improve.

Does that come as a surprise? And EA isn't even the worst developer in that department. I remember buying a game that wasn't even playable on most rigs - and the developer was fully aware of that before the release. Their argument was, if I remember correctly, the more people are buying the sooner the first patch will arrive.

So I'm used to expect the worst and pleasantly surprised if something happens to hit the market that doesn't come straight from the bin.

Abaris, are you referring to Crysis by chance? I remember most couldn't play the game on Medium or High too well.


But I agree with the general tone of the thread--EA needs to quit cutting corners. All we need is a good people simulator to wipe EA off the map one day. I hope that day comes soon enough.

No, it was a game produced by Jowood. They were making decent games until then. Last thing I know, they went into mobile gaming after that desaster.

As I said before, hype and brand loyalty will always carry EA though for the numbers, I don't deny they sold 1.4 million copies, what I do have a problem with is them saying that the Sims 3 was the highest rated Sims game ever. Sure the magazines that EA pays off is saying that the Sims 3 is the best ever, but the real fans are who I'm going with and the general consensus has been that the Sims 3 is a BIG let down. I think EA focused way too much on the open ended neighborhoods and not enough on the Sims themselves, that and their also trying to make money off their EA store, which I don't understand at all. How is EA going to put out CC that people have to pay for- at a rate slower than free fan sites and to top it off put out a product that is way inferior to fan sites. Why would any one pay for crap, when the better looking stuff if free? If weren't for places like MTS2 and Garden of Shadows putting our realistic looking Sims, I wouldn't even waste my time with this game. Hopefully Objects and Clothing will follow suite.

Back in the early Sims 2-ish days (2005), The Movies came close. I really liked many features of the game, except that the characters looked plug-ugly, and my movie stars kept quitting every ten minutes, no matter what I did. I gave up and gave the game away. Not a big deal, really ... I paid only $10 for the game and the guide combined. I feel much worse for those Sims 3 players who might have to take more of a loss selling their game used, if they want to get rid of it.

The technology is out there. Other companies catering to US customers (I don't know about customers outside of the US, so I won't generalize) have tried their hand at this, but came up short. I know that in other countries, there are games that aren't too dissimilar to The Sims that are doing very well, thank ye. It's just a case of someone coming up with a Sims-ish game that won't get them sued by EA and that have features that Sims customers desire. Oh, and that has international appeal.

It's not impossible. It's just not here yet.  :-X

And PixieStyx26, one concern I do have is that if free sites take too much away from EA, EA might ... no, I'd better not write it. It's just that this recent EULA concerns me a little.


EDIT ... I messed up the timeframe when The Movies came out. Sorry! But just for fun, I looked up The Movies on Amazon, and even THAT got more stars than the Sims 3.

Also, I checked the latest reviews. It's not good when a over a third of the reviews for a game are one-star. Combine these reviews with two-star reviews, and almost half of the reviews are one- or two-stars! Yipes! I know that some of the negative reviewers might be troublemakers, or people who just want to stir things up, but those are a lot of bad and not-so-good reviews!

It would not surprise me in the least if EA. decided to flex its muscles. 1.4 million and counting. The vast majority of those are probably more than happy with these neanderthals that pass as sims now.

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I find it interesting that in a world with nearly 7 billion people and an estimated 1 billion pc's in use world wide that EA could only sell 1.4 million copies of the game the first week. That's .0014 percent of the pc users that purchased the game. 1/1000th of a percent world wide.

The game is a world wide product isn't it?

It doesn't sound to me like 1.4 million is that big of a deal like EA wants us to believe.

Let us not forget that EA are the kings of spin. They hire people just to spin a negative into a positive picture, so it's not really shocking that they would try to spin 1.4 million sales worldwide into "Biggest launch in EA history." The differences between reviews fans write and reviews the gaming magazines write is laughable to say the least, but then again the fans aren't the ones who are in bed with EA. I mean it's simple politics, newspapers and magazines aren't going to write a negative review when they stand to make so much money in advertising from EA, who not only makes the Sims but a lot of other games. With each new release of the Sims EA cares more and more about money and less and less about making fans happy. Why should they when those die hard fans will always buy Sims games no matter how inferior the product. They know that they can always get by on the Sims name alone. What EA is doing this time is criminal, charging 50 bucks for what is basically the Sims 1.5. Then on top of that charging more money for stuff at their store, than they do for stuff packs. They deliberately leave things out of the first game like pianos and diving boards so they can no doubt charge us for them latter. I'm sorry but anyone who have a hot mess of a game like this more than 3 stars needs to have their head examined.   

Apart from get fit ads.,supermarket specials, and all the rest of the drivel that interrupts TV. viewing, we now have 30 seconds of sims 3. No, I kid you not, they're advertising it on Australian television now.

You can be quite sure that most reviews in the magazines have been bought also. Maybe not directly, but EA is the Big Spender of the business. A word from the eidtor and the writers will have very much fun playing TS3 and enjoy the endless possibilities.

They look wonderful in the add, no hint of downs syndrome and really lifelike, just like watching a movie, man oh man are there gonna be some pissed people when they buy it based on what they saw on the tube.

Just remember the movies for TS2. The butler holding the door for his employers, the fancy car in the driveway. If they haven't learned it by then, they will never learn.

I’ve been really put off by all the negative feedback on the forums about Sims3, but I had a rush of blood to the head and bough tit to see what is was like, and it’s brilliant, I never really had a wow about Sims 2, but Sims 3 you really can move all over and enjoy the views, leaving you Sims at home and at work and going off on you  own is amazing. I am very happy with this game and I think as one reviewer said this is the game Sims 2 should have been.

I couldn't agree more. The scenery, the freedom to explore 'The game the sims 2 should have been" Now if someone can just do something about those pasty neanderthals.

The game looks good, but at the core, the gameplay is boring. I don't know why EA spent more effort into making the scenery look good as opposed to making the gameplay amusing. It's just odd and a waste.

This game really isn't a simulation that can keep you playing for 4+ years, it's a RPG that's conquered in a month and forgotten about. I will not accept this abomination as Sims 3. I spent half a year waiting for this game, only to be severely disappointed. :mad:

*pats Jasumi on the back*

Scenery is nice, seamless neighbourhood is okay, traits are most welcome. That's all. I don't play Sims for its role-playing aspect but for the simulation. Sims are my soap opera. If I can't have that, bye bye.

P.S. A friend of mine was used as my guinea pig. I went at his house, we played the game but after half an hour I started yawning. I will admit I had all the curiosity to take a close look at the game. I am cured now.

lol Nalia, I guess I needed that 1star

Sims are my soap opera. If I can't have that, bye bye.

Yep. That's what drew me into the game, too. And with families just moving out randomly in Sims 3 no way i can achieve that.

You know what the problem is with this game? EA spent too much time hyping and advertising the game, and didn't pull their head out of their a-- to actually improve the game, may I add having a FOUR month delay, and all they did was advertise! I think that is just redicilous, I like many, many others stupidly fell for the hype. I now have wasted 55$ on a game, I was really excited about. The fact that EA sold 1.4 million copies is not a surprise, they had everyone from the get-go and they knew they were making gold. I just don't see why EA doesn't get off their lazy a--es and make a damn patch already, I mean if 4-500 pages on the tech section on the OS doesn't tell you idiots at EA, that 90% of the games problems, isn't on the users end, but on yours, than I don't know what will. No, the problem with the game, is that EA needs to release some sort of super-patch if you will, to weed out all the nonsense so many are having with the game. Some are not even able to play the game! I think the game is another product of poor coding and development, and the four month delay EA had, should have been put into making the game so much more than what it is. I mean c'mon, how many times do you have to tell someone that a game is coming out? Just get in there and make the thing, and people will buy it, and perhaps another 1.4 million would have jumped in, had you made it the way you falsely percieved it to be.. 1headwall I don't think TS3 will ever touch the estimated 100 million copies sold that TS2 did so..

The thing was designed to sell and make mega bucks. Player satisfaction never entered the into equation.
1.4 million and growing, now boosted by TV. advertising.
Do you honestly believe EA. cares whether the game is playable or not? A lot of game magazines are giving this tripe 9 out of 10.
As I said earlier, once you hand over your cash you become a statistic on their sales chart.
Phase two will entail a long spiel about all the fixes and extra game play that all will enjoy and no doubt wet themselves over in the inevitable EP.
And no doubt the bugs in the ist. EP. will then be corrected in the second, and so the money cycle begins.

Bit of late news. Prices are dropping already. Apparently the thing isn't selling as hot as the reviews are suggesting.

The reason the price is dropping is that as more players actually run it and then become disappointed/disillusioned/dismayed/pissed off by the game, they're uninstalling it and selling it to their friends or on EBay. They're telling their friends, and the word is spreading. Hell, even the Amazon site reviews are mirroring this-out of so many reviews, the majority of them are negative or less than stellar.

Look for a massive influx of used Sims 3 games on the various reselling boards.

EA can call it anything it wants, but that doesn't mean that it will be sustainable without a serious patch/reworking.

Hey Mary!

What do you mean by "used Sims 3 games"? something like this? (http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Sims-3-PC-Games_W0QQitemZ250443873658QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_PC_Video_Games_Games?hash=item3a4f9e3d7a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A15%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50/)  :D

me in my case i can say that i am very satisfied with the sims3 game and i am playing it every day. ;)

That's very fortunate for you, Pierre. And for many others, I suppose, but not for all the players out there.

I'm one of those players who is VERY unhappy with the Sims 3. I just can't get into until there is some decent CC out there. Part of the fun of the Sims was living a life you can't live, Closet full of clothes, really cute clothes, changing up your hairstyle several times a day. Driving around in expensive cars. It was like the ultimate playing house. It's not just the cc the Sims themselves have a lame feeling to them, They don't really have any new interactions, they all end up looking the same. You can't go into any buldings so even going downtown is pretty boring. The Sims 3 just doesn't feel the same as 1&2. Also story telling has been shot to hell, since EA didn't add much to the game and the outfits hairstyles are hideous it makes it hard to tell a story, especially when your trying to make a certain type of character.  EA should start listening to the fans and actually give us what we want and not what they think we want.

No game company is doing that. By expecting them to listen you're falling into a similiar mistake the fanboys over at official sites are making - to believe that there are companies who care for their customers. They haven't even included what they think their customers want, but what their businessplan allowed. Their only interest is in sales figures and in avoiding lawsuits. Everything else is just PR talk to fuel the money machine. There haven't been game developers caring for their customers since the last genuine gamers are out of business.

You can fully expect to be sold horse manure at the release date. The last time I was making the mistake of preordering, I was awarded something I wouldn't even want to scratch from my shoes. That was five years ago and lesson learned. Better safe than sorry.

Rave revues and all that other razmataz are there for the gullible and to reassure those who will buy irrespective.
Pre Ordering any game is foolish to say the least, one doesn't pre order a suit of clothes, you try it first to see how it fits, same with a car, test drive first.
This so called biggest launch may be just that, but this is the first time I see a high profile game such as the sims being discounted after a fortnight.
If by the beginning of next month it hits the dollar bargain bin as seen at the entrance of many game outlets, will these fools that have been rating the thing in the 90s eat their words and try to retain some credibility?
For goodness sakes the opinion throughout the gaming community is about 50/50 on the thing, so how on earth do they arrive at such a figure?   

Well, pre-ordering console games isn't so bad, because you know titles like Final Fantasy are usually pretty damn good and kick some major hind end.

Tee hee hee. I am willing to bet that Paden won't buy it even if she was given a large discount. :D

*and while writing this...*


YES! That's my girl!  1kiss
Not to mention that there is always a demo of FF out long before the game's release, which means you can play the demo and then pre-order.

Precisely, with the tried and tested you're pretty safe, but if you line up for something completely new and choose to ignore and disregard the known faults, you more or less get what you deserve.
For those that got bitten the evidence was out there, one just had to look.Taking EAs. word as gospel is foolhardy to say the least.
In the months leading up to the release of this game there was more than enough controversy and suspicion surrounding their new game to make some of the sims 2 community sit back and think twice about jumping in blindly.
Unfortunately there are well over a million who wanted to believe that what they saw and heard in all the promotions was what they were gonna get. And so now you have a great many them waving their burnt fingers in the air trying to unload the thing on E.Bay.
The greatest launch? I wonder if EA. are including the second hand sales in their figures?

You don't do that with something completely new. I mean, how stupid you can be? But in the case of The Sims 3, it wasn't something completely new. Many people felt very excited that there would be a new, improved version of the Sims out and they were looking forward to it. Can you blame them?

Although I have *never ever* pre-ordered anything in my life but books and mangas, I can imagine why they did it. For the very same reason I will pre-order "FFXIII Versus" when they give the green light: because of the certainty it will be a great game. 

Unfortunately, it seems it didn't work that way with TS3.

 (nodding head in agreeance) I too fell for this ''new and improved'' version. Don't get me wrong, I mostly enjoy the game cause I can play very big mansions with very little ease whereas on my sims2 I can not play without the ''crashing'' (SAD) but it also seems that after awhile this version also has a ''crash-like'' thing going on as well. And I'm very spoiled behind my cc- the lovely hair, furnishings, clothing, cars and so forth in the sims2. Not to mention the ability to have various types of weather and places to go and you can actually go INSIDE these places!!!!! The colleges and all the pets and stuff. The wonderful mods that all the different sims sites work hard to create so we can make our sims game actually OURS!!!!! There are good points to the 3rd version but mostly bad, and I'm speaking from my OWN experience with the game cause I have been playing it since it came out. That's what I respect about this site is that you can voice your opinion and still have respect for everyone else's! I can agree with both sides of the fence cause the scenery may be lovely and you can explore the entire town without loading, but I expected more. My sister paid $80.00 for the collectors edition!!!! You can download a car and get simpoints but that does not make up for the lack in the sims themselves. They may have real like features like the eyes and traits and moods but some of the life like items are missing. Look how the cars are now, the inability to actuall see what your sim is doing at work or even the store, only the gym is accessible!? You ca't really put a house anywhere and the 60x60 lots only have 3. Those are my personal favorites!!!! The hair and clothes SUCK!!!! No choice of which side you would like to put your jewelry on like sims2!!!? The hair has no bounce like sims2, no nails (ughhh) and the furnishings, what happened to all the good stuff????? Sims2 had all the best furniture you can possibly think of; and now some of it has to be bought from the sims store????? I enjoy what I can from this game but trust me until they start coming up with some sims2 items for the sims3 soon, me and the many others who are dedicated simmers will soon lose interest in the 3rd generation and gonna have to go back in time for some real sim satisfaction!!!!! Unless they come up with a way to ''fuse'' sims2 and sims3 into one huge game, but then our comps might explode from ''Bulls--t'' overload!!!! hahahaha

By labeling it with the Sims label, EA guaranteed sales. They didn't guarantee that people would be able to play, or enjoy it.
They were a bit less than forthcoming about which kinds of computers or gaming rigs you need, and they weren't about to blow this launch by doing so. To say the least they are guilty of the sin of omission, if nothing else.
They were also very heedless about the average player who does not have the bucks to shell out for the rig that you obviously need for this game.
But EA doesn't care about the customers-that much is true. If they had truly cared, they would have made a better game that almost everyone could play and enjoy.

In the end what we, the customers, asked for is not what EA provided. They wanted our money, and we wanted a good game.

Guess who won that round?

Hmmm.. those who didn't buy it? :)

I preordered it from amazon & I don't have any problems.

Well I need to say this, and this is the truth so help me god. I am beyond a shadow of a doubt absoultely and utterly SICK of this game, I mean I thought that maybe by updating my drivers that the game would run faster, and I have to admit it did for a spell, but today when I tried to play the damn thing my sim wouldn't even move and froze up like it did when I first started having problems with it!! 1explode I have thought about it, and I feel like I would be letting my boyfriend down, by uninstalling and just forgetting that he put almost 200$ into all my TS2 games, and that just wouldn't be right for me to throw all that away for this stupid game. I certainley am not going to buy a whole new computer just to be able to play this monstrosity. I will be eventually buying a new computer, but for my purposes and not EA's, so ladies and gents I will be installing and actually 'enjoying' my sims once again I thank you. I knew this game was too good to be true, and was being gullible by grabbing it up at release day, like so many other sheep. I will never make that mistake again. I MIGHT give this game a chance, once I see some definite improvement and a patch be made. I might install this game again, since I did give 55 bucks for it Ugh.. 1gah

What I find sad is that at best, this game is a crap shoot. If the reviews on the "standard" Sims 3 are any indication, you have about a 50% chance that you will really like the game, or at least find it somewhat interesting (three-star), and about a 50% chance of loathing it (one star), or at least not liking the game very much at all (two-star).

If someone tried to sell me a game by telling me that I have a 50% chance I will like it, I wouldn't consider that great odds. Compare this percentage to the Sims 2 on Amazon. About 12% of those who bought the game gave it a one- or two-star rating. The Sims Complete Collection admittedly has a much smaller sampling, but percentage-wise, did much better than this current game. Only about a half-percent gave the Sims Complete Collection a one- or two-star rating.

If you like to gamble, this game might be good for you, though at the rate the price is dropping, you might want to hold out a bit.

BTW, the contents of the EA online store is already "online", and I don't mean at EAs site.

Nice try keeping the pirates out by using their own installer.

1.6 Million copies sold in the 1st week? That's nice, ain't it? Just goes to show you how long it's been since EA's actually made a ground breaking game. Now...compare their numbers for TS3 to the release of a game such as...I dunno...Grand Theft Auto 4, which sold 3.6 Million copies in it's 1st DAY of release (Want proof? Click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV#Critical_reception), that's small potatoes by every stretch of the imagination. It's EA doing exactly what I said they'd do months ago, play off their numbers to make it look like the game was a success, when by all accounts from a sales perspective, it flopped like Waterworld. As far as high profile game releases, it doesn't even come close to some of the previous ones of this year OR last year. By the numbers, it didn't even come remotely close to what they were banking on it bringing in when they announced the game's 1st release date. Way to make it look like you're winning the fight when you've actually got your leg broken so badly the bone is sticking out of the skin, EA.

Hosting that junk is just flattering EA.
People should just give it bit more time. The way things are going, they'll probably give the stuff away soon.
BTW. I've scouted around and seen some of the creations at MTS. and TSR. Pink green,and purple puddings, wow!
Any fence sitters like me that snoop around looking for something human that might make the game a worthwhile purchase are probable shaking their heads in disbelief. It may be a big launch but I can feel it may be an even bigger flop,

I'm sorry that was so funny. Thanks for making me laugh.

 (laughing hysterically) kudos to that folks!!!!! I am soooooo close to uninstalling the sims3 cause my game may play a awhie good then PLOP!!!!!! My sister game does not do that though ugghhhh :mad: anyway mts has some nice stuff and I'm still looking around for other sites with some nice sims3 stuff( humping shoulders of unsurety :-\) Sims2 is looking really good right about now :eek:

Probably because she's playing on a different computer. EA isn't my cup of tea with all the things going on there, but not everything can be blamed on them.

 Actually her comp is worse, cause after all her hard playing it shuts down and her windows self-deletes!????! I'm on a laptop and she's on a desktop!!!! The random shutting down I can't explain, but the game itself can use some improvements. For once they could've came to us with some input on how we wanted it, after all WE ARE the ones who spend to play  :confused: ;) 

*shakes head sadly* Another one that thinks EA Games gives a rodent's posterior about what we, the customers, want. Honey, with them it's all about the money, not about what we want to spend it on. They figure that if they can fool us until we get the merch home, then kachiing!!, that's more profit for them, to hell if it's actually something we're going to enjoy playing with or be satisfied with. They. Don't. Care. We are dollar signs to them, nothing more.

Hence, the exact reason they have still failed to release a friggin' patch! :mad:

I'm still not going to waste my time installing it and unistalling my TS2 games, nuh uh; not after all my hard work of getting all my downloads back..don't think so EA, keep your piece of garbage, you proudly proclaim as "The BEST Sims Game EVVARR!" 1bleh

Well, Sims 3 isn't perfect straight out of the box. That's a given for any software product to have bugs when they're released to the public. Sometimes there isn't enough time for the patches to be worked into the products when they're slated to be produced, packaged, shipped and stocked for sale.


Sure, I like Sims 3 better now that there are a handful of competent modders working together more or less to improve or even fix Sims 3.

Keep in mind that it takes time to develop patches and test them thoroughly before they are released.

I'm not saying it's the best game ever, but I'm saying that people like Rick, Delphy, Pescado, Inge, Peter and others are making efforts to develop new tools to do extensive modding for Sims 3 as well as developing hotfixes to address the serious issues in Sims 3.

Figured I would step in and say that not everybody dislikes Sims 3. I don't love it, but I do play Sims 3 and come up with ideas to improve the game in my own little ways.

Exactly. I do enjoy the game as I said before cause I can now play huge homes with no crashing, and thanks to the modders who are figuring out ways to bring out the ''true gems'' of the game. Without them there would be little to no interest in it.

I think this time next year the sims3 should be a fun game to play. The first issue needing addressing is these damn empty buildings and the freakin "story progression", which is a horrible trick EA has played upon us.
A cxouple of fixes, a couple of expansions, and a TON of custom content and hacks and it should be an awesome game.