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I don't know about you guys, but i've found many of my favorite sites for sims 2 content seem to have nearly stopped uploading sims 2 content, often in favor for sims 3...sites i used to check everyday and find something new and excited, i find that there are only one or two new posts.
I know maybe i'm expecting a little much, for enthusiasm for a 4+ year old game to be maintained, but i still am kinda sad.
Am i the only one who feels this way? or are most people thinking "ditch sims 2, sims 3 is more exciting"?
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Is the sims 3 better now that there are mods? Is the sims 2 going to be forgotten so quickly?

I hope it won't be forgotten because I can't stand Sims 3! I don't think it's better at all, so I really hope the Sims 2 CC community stays alive.

We'll do our humble best to keep the Sims 2 stuff alive, kids. :)

i hope so Paden! lol, i know i'm not ready to give up the sims 2! I know All About Style is only doing sims 3 now, mod the sims 2 uploads are going slowly, and i know i'm checking here everyday for something new... Insim is basically my only hope is seems! <3 insim XD

Not so! Look in the Sim 2 Web section of the site here, and you'll find plenty of places that are still doing Sims 2 stuff, Sailfin Sims included. You'll find the work of someone you know of over there. Free registration is required, though, hope you don't mind.

oh wow, you're right, thanks for pointing me there...

I have my Sims 2 site SIMply Edward (http://simplyedward2.forumotion.net/index.htm). I'm updating about twice a week with recolors and Sims.

I have noticed this too hopawaay109. It really makes me sick to my stomach to see so many turn to TS3, and just push TS2 to the side like for example I was just on MTS and the creator Squall117 just released a new cool mod for non-default sandals for TS2. He said the post would be his last, as he is now playing TS3! TS3 is a sickening and poor display, to be called a sims game in my opinon. I will never bend to the game again. It's TS2 all the way for me. I do feel like TS2 will be just like TS1 after about a year or so though, seriously and that scares me.. :-\

i hope this isn't that case, SimGirl, what you're pointing out is exactly what i'm getting at, i'm afraid there won't be anymore interesting mods or new objects created, that forums won't be about the sims anymore...that tutorials will get deleted, that sites shut down, or replaced... :/ I wonder how long it will last...

I haven't even gotten sims 3 yet. I've just started meshing for sims 2, and since I'm mostly interested in the storytelling aspect (including the dozens of pose hacks and other things I've downloaded) Sims 2 is so far a lot better on that. SO I'll stick with sims 2 for a long while yet :)
I don't even have a sims 3 section at my site... And since neither I nor him I share the site with play sims 3, there's no use for it yet (He just started playing sims2, as a matter of fact...).

Until EA starts to fix problems, and until posing for pictures becomes easier (aka. poseboxes or similar), I'm not going over to Sims 3 permanently. I'll most likely stick to Sims 2 even if I start playing sims 3. To me, sims 3 sounds more like a spinoff from sims 2, and not a new and better game.

And sadly, sims 3 is not really made for the kind of storytelling I do... I need control, sims that doesn't age unless I want them to, and saving of as many families as I want to save. Several neighborhoods is a plus, too... And I do actually like Bodyshop - even within its limits. Plus, there's already a programme for fixing/meshing Sims2 (SimPE). It'll take some time before a similar (and just as good) programme will be released for sims 3 (if at all).

To be perfectly blunt, the Sims 3 is going to go by the wayside a lot faster than one might imagine, surprisingly-because EA is not correcting the problems that the game is causing so many people, and it is literally turning fans of the series away from Sims 3 back to Sims 2.

My evidence? The Sims 3 forums. They're full of people complaining about the glitches, the crashes, the freezes and just lousy general gameplay. Of course it's dependent on the computer, so if you've not gotten it, make sure you can run it before installing it.

Besides the technical problems, people are starting to notice the lack of features that they hope and pray will be corrected in the inevitable EP's that are being planned.

All in all, Sims 2 is still alive and kicking. You might be surprised that it will be around a lot longer than everyone is suggesting and promoting.
Too many people are getting burned by Sims 3 to ditch Sims 2 completely.

Sims 2 sites that dump the content are going to be sorry to have done so prematurely at this rate. The smart ones, like this one, MTS, MATY and some others, will not because they have the wisdom not to just throw everything away at the drop of a hat from EA.

They're smarter than EA. They like to please their customers.

theraven, what you're saying makes sense, and there are a lot of story tellers out there...

MaryH, i had no idea! i chose not to buy the game after poor reviews, but after the dissing died down, i just noticed a lot of changes in the community. I had no idea it was this bad and that EA hasn't done anything to fix it...perhaps Sims 2 will have a longer life...

I still plan on playing Sims 2 for a long time. In fact, when one of my friends got the Sims 3 I made an effort to convince her that the Sims 2 is better.  ;D She's starting to see my point now that's she installed Sims 3...  ;)

That does make sense MaryH. I can see how so many would turn to TS2 from TS1 because of the leap EA made with the overall gameplay and technology that went into the game. I mean TS2 WAS the next generation in the sims franchise, and people couldn't get enough of it, and would be hard pressed to turn away from it to go back to TS1, after seeing the overall affect it had on the community. EA just wanted to make a quick buck, in light of the suffering economy and they just threw this so-called sims game together, without a second thought to what the community really wanted. This game is not worth being called a sequel to TS2, if at all it deserves to be called an add-on or a spoof. I agree with you Mary about EA not doing crap to fix the game, hell I haven't even seen a patch be released for the game yet. All the wonderful mods and hacks and fixes everyone is so giddy about, EA had no say so in, and the community made them all NOT EA. I don't think EA really give a damn about fixing the game, I mean they got OUR money didn't they? What else do they need? :mad:

To be very honest, I was one of those "Never give in" people who played Sims 1. When Sims 2 came out, I fought a hard and mostly useless battle to not have to get the Sims 2.

I almost felt like a traitor when I did get Sims 2, because I had saved up enough money to get the Complete Collection for Sims 1 not that long before.

But since I've played Sims 2 far longer than Sims 1, and have enjoyed it immensely, to hear that Sims 3 resembles the first game more than a fair amount makes me angry that EA has slopped together features that do not mesh, do not work and end up in a game that has dubious technical perks for the advantage of "enhancing gameplay", IE, the "seamless neighborhood".

To have all the joy sucked out of the game by EA is not my idea of fun, and while there are some features that I'd die to have in Sims 2, I will not give in to their blatant money-grubbing exercise this time. Enough is enough.

EA is doing themselves no favors by whipping a dead horse and then putting a price tag on the body. They've doing a damned good job of it, from what I've read all over the net.

The fact that some very talented and creative modders have put every effort into improving gameplay, is a testament of the highest order to their ability and dedication to the fanbase, including old Mr. Pescado, who (despite legions of 12's descending on his doorstep by the hour) has graciously and fervently made mods to actually put EA's programmers to shame.

If the game is a hit, it will only be because those people put more effort into the game than EA ever thought of, and will continue to do so until they feel their talents are not needed.

I applaud them for their work, and hope they continue. But that does not make me any less angry that EA has truly "stopped the clock" with Sims 3 and it will not induce me to buy it.

Let's not derail this by turning it into a Sims 3 bashfest, please. :) You're all entitled to your opinions, but this thread isn't about what you think of the Sims 3 (that has it's own place in the Sims 3 section), it's about whether you intend to continue playing and/or making cc for the Sims 2. OK? Thanks. ;)

Sorry, i personally have nothing against sims 3, i'm just not interested in it right now.
I don't think i'll leave sims 2 for a loooong time. I hope others don't forget the sims 2 either...

I'm not interested in Sims 3 at all. I'll be creating for Sims 2 even after they have a way to make custom bodyshapes. Those pudding people just look strange to me.

I feel the same way, I've just now gotten myself into production of content for Sims 2 and I'm not walking away from a hobby that I enjoy, so look for me in the days, weeks, etc. to come.

If Sims 3 would have been released on consoles as-is, then I'd have more positive things to say.
But, judging from the reactions, I'm even more hesitant to try it out now than I was before. (And I was hesitant to begin.)

This is an example of why messing with a proven formula too much to appeal to too broad a base will usually result in a game with a lot of potential, but a lot to be desired in execution. (SimCity Societies and Spore are both guilty of this.)

ppl say tht ts2 will b 4gotten n abondoned by its players 4 ts3, although thoes r the fake players, as long as (us) the real players stand by the game n continue simming then the real creators will stand with us....
in my oppenion ts3 is a stupid game, my brother has it n well i dnt have it cuz 4 reasons, i just found ts2, my comp wnt support it, i dnt want ts3, n i <3<3<3<3 ts2.... its b came my hobby, n ive gotten sum ppl 4om my church 2 play it....

I don't think TS2 has been forgotten about at all! I still play both games, and there is an entire thread @ BPS about how people are abandoning TS3 and heading right back to version 2.0.

Sims 3 is a new shiny toy, so I'm not surprised to see so many people jumping on the bandwagon. I'm not sure it will be a flash in the pan, either, at least not for a while. For some reason, the Amazon approval ratings have improved a little, though I'm guessing that the reason for that is due to the free site creators' efforts. I myself don't see the charm as yet, but since I like to play many families, build lots where I want to build them, use very different body and item meshes, use different terrains in different neighborhoods (the loading time never bothered me, to tell you the truth), etc., it's not hard to see why in my case. It's my preference. Maybe someday, I'll pick up a used copy of the game and check it out. (Heck, I've seen new ones going for under $30 now, though that isn't too common yet. The "average" price on EBay seems to hover around $30 to $36 for new, $28 to $32 for used ... interesting for a game that is only a month and a half old!) Right now, it's not a priority with me, and won't be for a long time.

I echo Rock Justice's thoughts. This sounds like it will make a GREAT console game. Maybe I'll wait for that. Or not.

Anyway, even now, there are sites with Sims 1 updates, after how long? Nine years? I would think there will still be many Sims 2 sites left for a while, just not nearly as many as we're used to. I agree with those here who see that a wiser site owner who wants to reach out to a wide group of players will feature both Sims 2 and Sims 3 offerings. In time, we might even need more sites to provide separate lists of sites that have Sims 1, Sims 2 AND Sims 3 creations. To tell ya the truth, I'm starting to get confused as to who is offering what now!

One reason for the change in attitude in Sims 2 material might very well be that after about five years, we've exhausted many avenues of creativity. How many bobs and long hairstyles can one site have? How many types of sofas? While there WILL be people to come up with new and different ideas, they might be a little slower in coming simply because they've been done already! And it hasn't helped that so many of the brightest and most innovative Sims 2 creators have retired from creating entirely or almost entirely ... Enayla, Louis, Nouk, Warlokk, etc. There will be new ones to fill their shoes ... there are already ... but you may not see as many of them.

As for me, I have such a wealth of Sims 2 stuff over the years from so many creators (even though I stopped at Seasons) that it's no sweat to me to add things more carefully now. It keeps my folder trimmer, though I suspect I will be adding some new Sims 2 stuff from time to time to keep things from being stale. I guess I'm just a dinosaur ... for now, anyway.

That's interesting selenashelper. I haven't read on any forums that people are throwing down there new shiny, to go back to TS2. Do you want to know why I think people are so gaga over the game? In my opinion, in the little amount of time I did play I can clearly see that EA ripped the games code, straight from TS1! :eek: Does anyone else see the resemblance? I can tell from how big the rooms are when you build, and just how sims oneish EVERYTHING in the game looks, from the sofas to the damn flowers. EA clearly wanted to resurrect an old classic? Anyone agree? :confused:

Brandie_tst_foreva, please use proper English when you write your post.

OK, I'LL WRITE PROPER ENGLISH IN WORDS THAT NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND.... HAHAHA... BUT NAW SERIOUSLY... PLAY TS2.... ITS THE BETTER GAME... TS3 IS NOT REALLY THAT GOOD OF A GAME... IF FACT PARDON MY BAD ENGLISH, BUT IT SUCKS....

And capslock off, please. No need to shout ;)

I'm still not giving up on Sims 2. Yes, I have Sims 3, but (I think I mentioned this before), I have the room for both, so I can play both.

Brandie, I'm going to say this and say it once: shut up if you can't stop typing all in caps. It's rude and inconsiderate, and it's not the first time that you have done this. Did you overdose on idiot pills this morning? And before you get sniffy with me about my attitude towards your thoughtless behaviour, I only get like this with people that don't bother to read the rules or have a thing where they think that they are above them. Your own conduct brings me down upon your hind end with this warning. Heed it and mend your ways, or leave. The choice is yours.

To others, let's not turn this into a Sims 3 bashing thread. We've all had our say in the Sims 3 section and that's where it needs to stay. People like me are still creating for Sims 2 and the sites we upload to are staying strong and updating all of the time. We're not going anywhere for some time, so don't get your hair knotted over nothing. Any more of the trash talk about either game will see this thread get locked and possibly deleted.

I have both games installed on my computer. I like sim 2 but my children like 3. I am not a fan of 3 and dont think i wil be jumping ship no time soon.

So is this the way all ADMIN people treat the good people of the SIMMING community??? PADEN??? By saying I'm doped up on IDIOT PILLS???
Read my message, and understand one thing, YOU ARE THE IMBECILE, OAF, OR FOOL (Which ever tickles your fancy to be called) but since you don't know me, I will tell you this, I'm NOT AN IDIOT, IN FACT I AM GOING TO GRADUATE TOP 10% OF MY CLASS, UNLIKE YOU, WHO WAS STUPID ENOUGH TO GRADUATE LAST...
And another thing, you don't need to be sensitive about what people say about these games, My friend who told me about this website told me that it was a web site in which I could voice my opinion about the games, but I guess not (BUTCHERING THE 1ST AMENDMENT ARE WE???)... If anyone needs to be taking any kind of pills, ITS YOU, YOU NEED TO BE THE ONE TAKING CHILL PILLS AND PLEASE DON'T BE SO SENSITIVE.... You might get your feelings hurt, because the PLAIN SIMPLE TRUTH IS: NOT everyone feels the same way you do... About both games.... Some people prefer the easy and relaxing feeling of playing a game they all ready know how to play, and others prefer exploration, into an unknown strange game (ts3). Not everyone will jump ship to ts3, I know that, and i thank those who don't....
(P.S PADEN, THIS MESSAGE WAS NOT TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS, BUT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I REALLY DON'T APPRECIATE BEING CALLED AN IDIOT.... SO I HOPE THIS MESSAGE INFORMED YOU ABOUT MY FEELINGS, AND I HOPE I DIDN'T HURT YOURS)
(P.s, to the other ADMIN people, THANK YOU, for not being RUDE to me, and yes, I will start using correct English, and NOT typing in caps, unless there is something to shout about....)   ;)

OK, Brandie, chill out. First, you'll notice I politely requested you to keep the capslock off. That means off, completely. "Shouting" isn't acceptable at all, period. Second, you'll notice Paden mentioned we have a section for discussing TS3 and, if you look to the first post on the previous page you'll see I requested we keep the TS3 bashing out of this thread and pointed out we have a section and a thread for stating our opinion on the new game. I also asked everyone to keep this on track, which is to discuss whether or not anyone intends to keep playing the Sims 2. You are welcome to your own opinions, but keep things in the right place.

I'm sure you can understand how it can get frustrating to have to repeat this on almost every page because people hit reply without stopping to read what's already been said. Try, as well, to understand how equally frustrating it can be when people obviously don't read the rules and stickies posted all over the place. Now, let's not turn this into a personal fight, OK? If you haven't, please take a moment to read our rules and guidelines (http://www.insimenator.org/index.php/board,20.0.html). Yes, a lot of them are common sense, but if you read them, you can't use "I didn't know" as an excuse, which is something we don't accept because the information is there for everyone to read. Also, if you see a sticky post in a section, it's there because there is information we think is important for you to know, so take a few minutes to read them. You'll avoid a lot of possible conflict that way.

Now, one last time. Keep the TS3 bashing out of this thread. It's ok to say you don't like it, but don't drag it through the mud here. Keep this thread on track and talk about the issue raised by the OP. Are you planning on continuing to play TS2?

Excuse me, but that is your third warning. You may either now get banned temporarily or permanently, depending on what and the other two admins decide. You do not flame staff, and you do read the rules and stickies so that you know what is expected on this site. If you don't like it, then leave. Or get forced out, your choice. And, you will not shout on this site. If you can't follow rules or be bothered to read them, then yes, you are an idiot. Also, I graduated long before you were born and have seen plenty of people like you, most of whom were taught common sense and manners were to be used when they join a new place, be it a club, a social group or a forum yet they still ignored those conventions and got tossed out on their A double S.

Listen, I did NOT intend on hurting your feelings, and yes, I do want to keep playing ts2, I love it, it has become my hobby, my baby.... (but that's my whole computer...) The reason i gave you that message before is because, I don't like it when people lash out at me.... And disrespect me.... MY intentions WERE NOT to disrespect you though.... And I hate to say this but I will anyway, I don't care, about what you guys think about me, Although I do care weather i get kicked off or not, so i hope you guys are aware of my feelings, because i am aware of yours.... So yep, I am going to continue playing ts2....

If you'd pay attention to what I had said in another thread, read the rules. Stop typing in caps. Learn when you are warned once, not a whole bunch of times. Your own actions brought about my reactions. That ought to be a familiar formula from science class, no? I base my decisions about people on whether or not they learn from mistakes or just stubbornly cling to them and never learn any better because they are special snowflakes and above the rules.

As for where I graduated in my class, uppermost 10%, and that was when the schools in my home state were in the top of the United States. If you want to emphasize things, don't use all caps. Use the bulletin board code, it's easier on the eyes. This isn't going to turn into a pi**ing contest because I know where I stand in regards to rules and such. I've been around many, many sites and one of the hardest lessons I've learned is that until proven otherwise, people are idiots and act accordingly. Please feel free to prove me wrong about you and turn into the productive and interesting user that I'm sure that you can be. Until such a time, I will suspend making any vote on whether or not you get banned, but regard yourself on parole in regards to how you post.

My recommendation, Brandi, would be to just let this go. What grades we all have or got in school is irrelevant here. I don't care if you average(d) D grades, C- or A. It has no bearing on the issue at hand. Now, please drop it. Read what I said again in my last post and make note of where I asked for you to not turn this into a personal fight, OK? You said your intent wasn't to hurt feelings, but what is this?


Now, I'm going to lock this thread, since it seems to have run its course and served it's purpose.