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Title: AVOID ISA.net, possible danger to your computers!
Post by: roerzman on December 11, 2009, 02:55:26 am
The adult sister of this site is now host to the Security Tool virus, took 6 hours to rid my pc. of the thing.
You need to download and run Malwarebytes Antimalware, it's the only thing that works.
If I posted this in the wrong place, tough, this is very important. sa is very important


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: ladymiriam on December 11, 2009, 04:09:06 am
Indeed a bold statement, are you absolutely positive it came from there?


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Jenna on December 11, 2009, 04:13:41 am
Do you perchance have any proof to verify your claim?

...and also, I clipped all the bloody whitespace out of your post. Go easy with the enter key next time.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: roerzman on December 11, 2009, 04:39:48 am
First time in weeks, clicked on insimadult as I have done for the last couple of years and wham, Security Tool is installing itself. Could not stop it, by the time I turned the pc. of in the wall it was to late.
My desktop had disappeared, and just a continual phony malware scan was going on, using my antivirus just caused the pc. to crash.
Trying to repair in the safe mode was a waste of time. This is one seriously nasty bit of gear, and as I said it was by pure luck that I found Malwarebytes Antimalware which at this point is one of the very few programs that will rid your pc. of this trash.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Theraven on December 11, 2009, 05:07:19 am
Do like me, and put the internet browser on the highest security level, and of course turn off pop-ups. Granted, I have to ctrl-click every link - but I've not had a single virus problem at all recently, not even a single pop-up, even using IE8. (That was, until my antivirus programme discovered a trojan that showed up only when I tested out Google Chrome, without configuring the settings first). This will also stop automatical installations of most kinds (even from the "good guys"), and will block them, with a warning.

Also, always have your antivirus program running in the background when browsing on the internet. Running it afterwards isn't always the best, but still do a full scan now and then (My does it automatically every week).


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Ali on December 11, 2009, 08:58:59 am
is anyone else having problems with the adult site and viruses?


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: simneesee on December 11, 2009, 09:56:50 am
I've never gotten a virus from ISA


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Alasdair on December 11, 2009, 10:01:53 am
Me either. But I have my security settings on high as well.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Paden on December 11, 2009, 01:43:18 pm
I wasn't aware that SMF could carry a virus, to be perfectly honest. While I don't doubt that you had problems, what other sites had you been to? TSR, perchance? It is certainly something for Pescado to look into, yes. I rarely if ever make it to the adult site, I've got a small kid underfoot all of the time and many things going on over here, so wouldn't know. It could be that you picked it up elsewhere and it picked that particular time to install, who knows. But yeah, I say we sic Pes on it, seeing as he's so good with this kind of detecting of crap that shouldn't be there.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: roerzman on December 11, 2009, 03:34:50 pm
In Google I have several links to ISA. The first is Insimadult org. which is now nothing but garbage, tried the second one I think, which immediately downloaded the Security Tool super spyware.
I recently installed Google chrome which I use to access the Zynga online games on facebook, however I still use IE. for my other updates.
I know facebook is ripe with keyloggers and such so I always do a sweep to clean up the garbage when I finish.
It is possible that Security Tool randomly picks links as a host. What is frightening is that my av. gave me no warning that the link was dirty, and the thing immediately installed itself without a murmur from my firewall. Once in the thing constantly checks for trojans , worms etc. and will not allow you to run any applications. However it still let me use IE. I think the purpose of that is so that you download a cure that requires you use your credit card to get the full version, the cerdit card number is the aim of the game.
I was lucky that after six hours of trying everything I found Malwarebytes Anti-Malware which got rid of it.
The purpose of this post is to alert all my fellow simmers about this piece of crap but more importantly, how to get rid of it, and not to buy things like Spyware Doctor because that's the whole point of the exercise, to get your financial details, if you uninstall it, so what, it has your credit card number.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Paden on December 11, 2009, 05:14:24 pm
Um, I thought the NEW places were the .org and the OLD places were the .net or did something get lost/scrambled in my brain here? If you went to the old site, of course you're going to get something nasty, he's got the damn thing crammed full of ads to pull in as much revenue as he can so he can cover his ass and pay his mommy back that money she loaned him to buy it in the first place.

Here's the lesson: DON'T GO TO THE OLD SITES!!!


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Theraven on December 11, 2009, 05:34:37 pm
If you were using Google Chrome, then that might be the problem. I use quite high settings on IE8 (thought they were on the highest, but they are in fact on medium high), and nothing seems to come through. I try Google Chrome for a few days, and all of a sudden Norton discovers several trojans when running a full scan (while Chrome is runnng). I stopped using Chrome after that...
I'm in fact also considering getting a different antivir, since Norton apparently doesn't seem to stop anything unless running a full scan. Not quite sure how it operates in the background, but hopefully it does its job.

As far as I know, Google Chrome is still in Beta. I've not yet gotten into how to put it in high security (like I did on IE8) - and I'm not even sure if it's possible. They say Chrome is one of the best browsers, but I'm not so sure any longer...

IE8 might be slow, but so far I've had few virus related problems with it... It crashes once in a while, but so does other browsers...
Firefox acts even slower than IE8, and takes ages to start up. Plus it wants me to install flash players and everything else (even though the same sites runs fine on IE8 without a new flash install...)


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: caffeinated.joy on December 11, 2009, 06:06:21 pm
Paden's right. If you were visiting the .net site, then that had nothing to do with us or our sister site, since we're not associated with them any longer. I understand you're trying to warn people of a potential problem, but most people who are already here don't visit the old .net sites.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Carlwashere on December 11, 2009, 06:09:01 pm
I highly suggest Avast anti-virus, its a free (for personal use) anti-virus program that stopped me PLENTY of times the minute I clicked something bad. It hasn't failed me once. It's stopped me from getting a virus hundreds of times. The minute it detects something, it makes an alert you CAN'T ignore. Flawless.  ;D
I highly recommend it, I haven't had a virus since I switched over to it. With Norton, I didn't have such luck.  :-\


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: simneesee on December 11, 2009, 06:20:39 pm
I use Google Chrome and ISA doesn't mess it up. In fact, the only problem I have with Google Chrome is that it slows down if you have multiple Google Chrome's running at the same time...


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Theraven on December 11, 2009, 06:23:15 pm
It wasn't really me who installed Norton... That's how it goes when I ask somebody else to set up the computer... :-\

I've tried Avast once before, and was quite happy with that, despite it being quite annoying once in a while. I'm doing some research about the antivirus programmes, to see which ones are the best, and Avast seems to be one of the best free programmes. I'm considering changing back to it, in fact :)


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Carlwashere on December 11, 2009, 06:25:49 pm
Make the switch!  ;D
It's not as annoying as a broken computer.  :D
The constant anti-virus updates popping up do get annoying, but I guess constant updates is a good thing.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Stinkerbella on December 11, 2009, 06:32:20 pm
I've never had that happen with ISA either, but I think I know what roerzman is talking about. If its the same thing, it happened to me cause of a torrent site I went to. It popped up while I was on that torrent site. Says it was scanning my pc and such. I just cancelled it and left the site. Maybe it follows you around. I've had it pop up on me on another site I never had trouble with before.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: DaSpecial1 on December 11, 2009, 06:53:03 pm
I suspect the old site (.net) or google chrome led to the virus, not ISA. Avast would have blocked that for accessing your computer, though.

It has kept me virus free for well over a year, get it quick.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Paden on December 11, 2009, 06:54:10 pm
From what I understand, once that popup is seen the first time, it's got hold of your computer and will not let go, no matter how quickly you leave the site it popped up on. Root it out NOW if it still tries to follow you around and save yourself some hassle. Good luck.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: FrankP on December 11, 2009, 07:52:40 pm
It doesn't affect me. Course I use Flock as my default browser, with AdBlock to boot, plus 7 antispyware measures. No popups, no infiltration.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Stinkerbella on December 11, 2009, 07:57:33 pm
That's probably how I got hacked into.  :mad: I knew I hated torrent sites for a reason. Guess I'll go back to hating them. LoL. I've always been careful about the sites I go to. Only time I'd venture into unchartered waters was if I was image searching, aside from my recent tour on the torrent site. But it really didn't start until I went to that torrent site. I will start looking into that problem now since I dont need it to get any worse. LoL.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Paden on December 11, 2009, 08:12:33 pm
Yeah, Flock is my browser of choice and I've got AdBlock Plus, myself and not had a bit of trouble. Of course, I also run paid AVG and it will tell me if a link is a BAD THING so of course, I pay attention. Of course, there are just some sites I avoid from sheer principal, as well.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: TheNinthWave on December 12, 2009, 12:11:04 am
That's rediculious! sim's sites don't have viruses. You got that from somewhere else. If you are going to ISA, then you are probably going to porn sites, and those are well known to carry viruses.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: ancienthighway on December 12, 2009, 12:52:44 am
That's rediculious! sim's sites don't have viruses. You got that from somewhere else. If you are going to ISA, then you are probably going to porn sites, and those are well known to carry viruses.

Now that is a ridiculous statement.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Jenna on December 12, 2009, 02:16:41 am
Agreed.

Now that's enough of that, or this thread gets locked.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: simneesee on December 12, 2009, 02:41:54 am
Wow, I've learned about so many new web browsers from this thread...Flock? Opera? LOL I thought I was ahead of the current because I had Google Chrome  :D


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: roerzman on December 12, 2009, 03:03:40 pm
It was the .net site that gave me the problem. I don't play the game very much any more so one looses touch with what is what. I run Avira with Zonealarm as a firewall and Spybot to sort out what's left. Normally if a site is dirty Avira will have a fit but this little beast just came on in and as said, once it starts there's no stopping it.
Once it has your pc. your desktop is replaced by a blue screen and all quick launch icons are gone. Every attempt to remove the thing just results in the Blue screen of death, booting into the safe mode also doesn't work.
I suspect the origins of this thing are somewhere in Facebook because for some time now I keep getting a little thing called ADSPY which is easily dealt with, but I suspect it is the key that Security Tool used to access my pc.
My warning is that Security Tool is very difficult to be detected by the mainstream antivirus programs because it isn't a virus as such. For a more detailed explanation on the horrors about this thing I recommend those with concerns look it up on the net, it's quite frightening.
And no, you don't need to go into porn or bittorrent sites to pick this thing up,it masks itself as one of the dozens of malware/spyware tools on the net.


Title: Re: ISA. hosts Security Tool virus
Post by: Paden on December 12, 2009, 04:50:49 pm
In the meantime, I'm going to change the title of this thread so that no one is misled into believing that anything connected with the NEW sites is responsible for this, m'kay?


Title: Re: AVOID ISA.net, possible danger to your computers!
Post by: roerzman on December 12, 2009, 05:16:00 pm
Fine, I don't want any of our members to go through the crap I went through.


Title: Re: AVOID ISA.net, possible danger to your computers!
Post by: caffeinated.joy on December 12, 2009, 05:32:13 pm
As I said before, roerzman, I understand you're trying to help people avoid the same trouble and appreciate it. What the other staff members were doing was simply attempting to clarify where this actually came from and how it was possible ISA.org created this problem for you. As it turns out, thanks to this clarification, this resulted in the discovery that it wasn't anything to do with us, but with Walt's failed ISA.net site.
 
By now, hopefully, most of the community knows there's nothing at the .net sites and doesn't go there, but this is definitely good to know and good incentive to avoid them. :)


Title: Re: AVOID ISA.net, possible danger to your computers!
Post by: roerzman on December 12, 2009, 07:05:57 pm
The insimadult site is clean, (no pun intended) however the links to the site on google are not what they state, Clicking on insimadult org. gave me something that was not insimadult, I certainly didn't stick around to see what it was. The login link in google was the correct one.


Title: Re: AVOID ISA.net, possible danger to your computers!
Post by: Jenna on December 12, 2009, 07:46:32 pm
That's why you need to check the URL before you randomly click one of the results. If it looks suspicious, don't click it.

Now, I think this topic has dragged on long enough. We appreciate your concern, but I think this matter is settled.


Title: Re: AVOID ISA.net, possible danger to your computers!
Post by: Paden on December 13, 2009, 01:22:17 pm
One last thing: update your damn bookmarks, if you haven't already and you won't have to get your links through Google. I'm just sayin.


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