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I couldn't seem to find a poll on which was more popular.  I like Sims 2 better than sims 3.  But I need to know if there are still some Sims 2 fans out there so I know to keeping making more Sims 2 creations!  i LOVE Sims 2!!  Sims 3 is alright, but that didn't stray me away from sims 2, NOT A CHANCE will I give up Sims 2! NEVER!

There are still plenty of die-hard fans for Sims 2 and they/we are always on the look out for well-made items. So yeah, keep on making stuff! God knows that I do.

*Raises hand* Sims 2 now and 4 eva  :D.

I have sims 3 but it's more of an occasional novelty for me--even my kids don't care to play it.  I think we've been too spoiled by skins, eyes (heck everything TS2) to get lost in puddingland for long.

Sims 2!

I do play a little Sims 3 too, but I (so far) only make CC for Sims 2, and only use Sims 2 for photoshoots.
Much more freedom... or so I think, anyway.

When first created, The Sims (1) had a charm that trapped you instantly. It became obsolete for obvious graphic reasons. Even today I still launch TS1 for nostalgy.
TS (2) was a nightmare to follow and became really good after EA moved "forward" to TS3. If anyone remember the Base Game was much more than just frustration, it was pure irritation. The game changed along the road and became what we like right now.
TS3 is a just a quilt and is absolutely empty for charm. If no one noticed yet, everything in the game is fake and based on the socalled Rabbit Holes that are nothing else than a door. EA is specialist on creating invisible objects that acts like a tray to hold something or someonesim. Before, Sims disappeared when entering in a car or walking thru a portal. Now they walk or drive a long way to disappear into a fake building. Sims now can walk everywhere but are automatically called back to the original point (owned house). You cannot control more than one family, otherwise you use more space than your computer has available. Programs to change TS3 are still in baby age. You have only two choices, you follow EA's rule or Pescado's. If this is a meaning for freedom, I still think that it is much better to wait until EA moves "forward" to TS4. Oh, yes, there's scripting. TS2 had also scripting and this was what caused Dustin Broke to bring Angela Pleasant from school. I had played the Pleasants for very long and Angela was a middle aged lady by then. It was just script.

Sims 2. The custom content has changed a seemingly ugly game with good potential into a masterpiece...and it will take a lot to do the same for sims 3. The graphics have been made too cartoony - and of course pudding-like - and the game has become less functional, although more features were introduced.

I been playing sims 3 but mostly its a go to while my sims 2 game is being redone. Im redownloading a lot of stuff and starting from scratch so I get things organized. Its taking a while so inbetween doing that Im playing 3. I like 3 but its nothing in compairison to sims 2. I miss being able to actually go IN the restraunts and stuff plus the pudding uglyness is hard to beat out of them. I had my self sim go into the stylist job just to make everone in the hood over LOL. I dont ever think I will use sims 3 as anything other than a "Im bored and I want something thoughtless to do but I already read all my new books and I already been playing 2 for a while, oh theirs 3... lets do that for now till Im ready to go back in 2" kinda thing.

If I went into the many, many, MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNY reasons why TS2 is plain and simply a more superior creative experience then it's follow up, I'd be sitting here until midnight typing. Instead, I'll truncate things by saying that from a creative standpoint, TS2 offers more then TS3 will ever have. Even now to this day, people are still bangin' out awesome CC for TS2, at a higher regularity then they do for TS3. There are more tools available for creators and more freedom to use those tools. Sims are more then just virtual avatars, they are expressions of the creator's inner being. You can gather a lot about a person in how they create their sims, because it shows what said person perceives the world around them as. The Sims Community at large exists because of TS2. The game itself is a piece of Video Gaming history. You have console, mainstream games that have borrowed from the formula of TS2 in you being able to turn the world the game exists in into whatever you wish it to be. On that alone, let alone the many other reasons I'm not bringing up, TS2 is the one and only Sims game I'll ever play. Unless TS4 is a groundbreaking work of technical genius that is. (And I'm not exactly holding my breath on that one...)

I'm a sims 2 fan all da way! And always will be. The only reason I'm still playing sims 3 is cuz my laptop needs to be repaired and I lost most of my sims 2 discs so there's no way for me to play it on the family desktop

I'll admit that I abandoned Sims 1 rather precipitously when I was able to buy Sims 2-even though at the time, I swore it would never be bettered. I was proven very, very wrong in my assessment-but now that I've played Sims 2 for nearly 4 years I can say that Sims 3 holds very little if any appeal for me.
Myriad reasons, but the most compelling one is the sheer incompetence that EA has demonstrated in bringing Sims 3 out, in making it playable and their level of customer service (absolutely as little as possible.)
They dropped the ball on this one big time, and after reading all the complaints and reviews that other players have given, I will not abandon Sims 2.
They had a glorious chance to blow the series right out of the ball park, and blew it. That will not be forgotten by the more senior of players. They kiddified it to death and made it as hollow as possible while making as much money as possible.
We won't even go into the issue of the EADM and EA's cute idea of "logging" players while on-line.
Now, excuse me while I go hug my simmies and tell them they have a safe home on my computer. They're not going to be evicted for some shallow wannabe of a game. Never.
Also-if I look very closely at my game with it's graphics, the game is almost the equal if not better in graphical quality than Sims 3. No joke-sometimes I can't even tell I'm really playing the older of the two, and I don't even have to deal with the puddings!

I'm so glad everybody still Likes Sims 2!!  And XPTL297, you are so right on about the "disappearing into a fake building!".  That's bull, I like being able to have my sims sit down and eat, plus, sims build relationships that way, and I needed an "eating scene" for my story.  While we are on the subject of eating the food has much better looking quality in sims 2! Especially with the food that http://exnemsims.com/ (http://exnemsims.com/) created.  Have you seen the cheese and crackers in the Sims 3?  They pick up the whole set of cheese and crackers while eating it!  What the heck!?

I never did play the original Sims much, but I remember watching my brother play it. I still remember when he bought The Sims 2, and he wanted me to try it. I did, and I fell in love (or in major addiction). The expansion packs just made it more fun, and then I heard about The Sims 3. I thought it would be amazing, and I really had my hopes up.

Well I felt like I really liked it, until I entered create a sim. I kinda felt like someone put me in a small metal cage and I couldn't reach the things I wanted.

I did enjoy the simple recoloring anything you want with just a click, but I just couldn't get used to the huge differences between the games.

I can't say anything about the expansion packs for that game because I really don't want to buy them.

Anyway, <3 TS2 forever.

  my why for choosing sims2 would be a repeat of everything mentioned here already.  Not that I'm unoriginal in my thoughts lol.  Sims2 gives me that warm fuzzy feeling because I know how much time and effort I put into my creations.  I look at my town and say this is MY town!  and wonder what my little princesses are going to do today.  A little bit of the whole 'frankenstein' affair.
  And not to be a broken record but I'll say it again, I don't see anything in S3 that they couldn't have added to S2 using a fraction of the space.

I love how people complain about the "ugly puddings"in the sims 3,Sims 2 sims only look good coated in CC

I'm really new to the Sims world, I just started playing Sims 2 in November! What led me to buy it was the pretty little hair, and clothes and sims that people were creating. So when I heard that there was a Sims 3 I checked into it, I have never played Sims 3 but just by looking at the screenshots and the little trial I got with my Sims 2 game I knew it was a bust. The Sims look HORRIBBLE! They look too cartoony, and ugly. And the graphics didn't look too different from the Sims 2 just more, bulgy. ????? I am Sims 2 all the way! And if there is going to be a TS4 then they better make it right!

I think my post here (http://www.insimenator.org/index.php/topic,110381.msg1600592.html#msg1600592) says it all. ;)

Edit: Let's not drag the Sims 2 or Sims 3 discussion into that thread, but keep it here, OK? Thanks.

Definantely sims 2 still. I play sims 3 a fair bit too but.
But Sims 2 is by far my favourite.

The problem is that it's a hundred times more difficult to make sims 3 sims look good however much you coat them in CC. They look bulky, their faces like clay, and their crazy face expressions don't make things better. Toddlers and children looks horrible, and the babies are gross...

With a new skintone and a cute hair, you can make any sims 2 sim look pretty. With the right skintone, the babies looks adorable, and with the right genes, you get such cute kids and toddlers.
I've got a default replacement skintone installed in Sims 2, and it takes a lot for the sims to actually look ugly.

I personally think that it verges on the rude side to call ALL sims 3 sims ugly,a lot of people put time and effort into these creations.Besides,in my opinion sims 2 players tend to be on the shallow side,photoshoots? Sometimes I think they have their fantasy/reality blurred a little

I don't think all sims 3 sims are ugly.. but I can still see where Raven is coming from.

The sims in sims 3 are a bit more bulky then the other games.. and lets be honest.. the babies are quite ugly.

But sims 2 players shallow? I don't think we/they are. They have sims 3 photoshoots as well.

I actually don't mind the babies.but I will say that I didn't mean to sound rude,I meant that sometimes the simming community in general(be it 2 or 3)can sometimes be a little shallow.I doubt if EA(Maxis,whatever)intended the sims games to be all about looks,that disturbs me a little,a game should be about having fun,a little escape from reality,I don't like bringing the reality to my game.

:P As my dad likes to say, different strokes for different folks.
When you put it like that.. I spose we can be a bit shallow with our sims. But you gotta face it, sometimes, the looks are the best bits.
I agree with you a bit there also. I don't like too realistic sims. But the looks of the sims matter most to me because I don't really bother with houses or furniture. All my houses look the same unless I really strive towards making them look different.

Yeah,I also hate furnishing or building houses for both games,architecture just isn't my thing,or interior decorating for that matter

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that one of the greatest things about the Sims was that it allowed you to let your immagination(or as you put it, fantasy) and mix it with the reality that the game tries to simulate. And trust me, most sims 2 players aren't as shallow as you think. We just have high expectations after the greatness that was sims 2 and the sims 3 was kinda like a big spit in the face from EA who thinks their fans don't know a deterioration of quality and effort when we see it. It's like going to a small family bakery and the food is delicious and then it gets taken over by a big corporation, the food looks nicer and more expensive but it just doesn't taste that great anymore

Skip the blurred lines my sims should imitate reality in the simlish way they were made to.  How close to reality or fantasy you want your sims to be reflects personal preference and has nothing to do with your rl character.  Many times I play a family and they do things I didn't expect (which I love) and I think "Gee that would have made a great story," but I don't have the time in my rl to both play and write stories. I give props to those that make the effort.  I will say I have never gotten the urge to turn any sims 3 plot into a story--the game designs their hollow lives.

The awesomeness of TS2 (for me) is the realism. Not OMG I think it's my life realism, I assume we all know the difference...but say if I have an elf in the game I want it to look like one (thank heavens for the creators that made in-game elves, fairies, etc possible).  I want the theme of my sims to match my desires for the particular style I'm  playing at the time.  The realistic looks, actions and attitudes (albeit often over the top 1titter) are what hooked me.  The sims 2 community & its creators--the real people who made the game playable and keep it awesome, that's what keeps me.


I have sims 3.  Much as I like the sims I create in cas they ARE awful compared to TS2.  There's no real relationship building, everything is all about collecting, raking in money, or both. There's simply nothing there to hold my interest for long. I always find myself asking why didn't EA just tweak TS2?  They had so many loyal simmers to give them imput.  Then I leave S3 and go back to my real sim world :D.

Saying sims 3 sims are butt-ugly is just an opinion.  Unless someone is personally looking at your offered creation and commenting negatively or you personally work for EA I don't quite get calling that opinion rude.  Of course, I would hope EA is above insults like "your game sucks and your sims are fugly," and would take action to remedy what people are complaining about (And then she woke up from that dream 1giggle).

As has been stated, calling the Sims 3 sims ugly is an opinion, not a fact, so it's no more rude than, for example, saying liver and onions is hideous. Now, if you ask me, calling people shallow because they like to pose their sims and do photo shoots is crossing the line between stating an opinion and being insulting. You're saying everyone who likes to take pictures for contests, stories or just for fun is superficial and lacking in depth and knowledge. You don't know anyone here well enough to be able to make that generalization. Photo shoots for whatever reason may not be your cup of tea and that's fine. You can claim you meant the simming community in general, but it still doesn't justify it. It's still an insult. Besides, in your first post, which I quoted above, you specifically say Sims 2 players are shallow. There is nothing wrong with wanting to play a game that looks good.

If you prefer the Sims 3, then that's fine. You can. It's your prerogative. If you don't like realistic sims, or fantasy sims, that's your prerogative too. Some people love the cartoon-like quality of the Sims 3 while others don't. You can have your opinion without calling people names. 

But you guys are not comparing vanilla games,sims 2 sims look awful without CC skin,hair,eyes and face templates.I am not trying to be insulting,I am stating an opinion,just because it is unpopular on this site doesn't mean that I deserve to get flamed.The only things people want to talk about is the CC when it comes to the sims 2,where are the sims made with EA only content on this site?(or any,for that matter)I just see ones decked out with CC

I use a default skin replacement and eye replacements, but still use the face templates the game came with and I think I manage to make some OK looking sims in spite of this fact. You see the same thing in Sims 3, minkey. No matter which game you talk about, you will find Sims uploaded and made with custom content and/or some sort of default replacement.  

Besides, I, personally, have never said I had an issue with the appearance of the sims in either game. I certainly had things I wasn't overly fond of, but I could over look them. No, my issue, as I have stated, was the game's performance and stability. My Sims 2 game, filled to bursting with custom content, works better and more reliably than my Sims 3 game, with no custom content, ever did.

Now, to make it clear, my issue with your post wasn't with you stating your opinion about the way any sim in any game looked. It was with you calling Sims 2 players shallow. Keep name calling out of it, and we're fine.

The OP asked us which game we prefer and if she should still make Sims 2 content and we're answering her and stating our opinions. No one's telling you you're wrong for preferring Sims 3. You came in here, called us shallow and told us we were blurring the line between fantasy and reality and we're reacting to it.

Now, can we please get this topic back on track?

 

I don't know. personally, I like them both. When I first got Sims 3 back in August 09 for my birthday, I hated it. Now that EA's released patches to fix the game, OMG, I like it so much better.

I don't know. I really enjoy the poseboxes in Sims 2 and there are so many CC creating possibilities. Far more than Sims 3. I sometimes think maybe Maxis did that on purpose for Sims 3 to maybe end the conflict about paysites. What do you guys think? I mean, think about it, a lot of things were eliminated like recoloring roflmao.

PS: I really like the sim in your avatar, Joy. Is he from your game?

Why, thank you. Yes, he is. That's Gino. :)

I will never ever convert to sims 3. End of story.  ;D

Good thing you haven't been forced to convert like I have. I miss my laptop and my sims 2 :'(

I'm still playing TS2 for the near future. I've played TS3, and it didn't really impress me that much. Maybe after a few more EPs, and when some decent CC comes along. *shrugs*

The question here is not how beautiful or how ugly Sims are (2 or 3) because everything will change. It is just that it will probably take many years when in fact it could have taken some minutes. To play TS is not just a case of how pudding or not, but a case of interactions. When you limit people to play just one house at a time, you have to give them a sense of community. What I felt in TS3 is that it is the same I feel about my next neighbor. We have lived side by side for decades and I know nothing about him. (Sincerely I don't care at all). When I create my own dream world, I don't want to have my noname, noface neighbor, but a sense of participating in everyone's world. After I noticed that TS blows up my computer if I move in too many Sims, I found out new ways to play all of them and keep my CPU/RAM happy. So, it not a case of walking virtually around, collecting stones or plants, but on creating a magic world that you could wish to move in self. For people that wasn't born at TS1 times, TS1 had much more interactions than TS2, just that technology didn't allow them to experiment them. When I create a new object I take TS1 as source, because I also modded a lot for TS1 though never posted my work.
I believed that after all the experience gathered and all that fabulous creators that contributed to make TS2 really beautiful, TS3 would have a super good start once most of the problems were relatively solved. But NO. It started that all the little problems from TS2 were just reproduced in TS3 (Sims that bumps on each other, get trapped between two objects, doors that opens individually and only one Sim can pass and caused them to lose school or work, just because they either bumped on each other and fall "out of queue" or something alike. Finally, who was the Idiot that told EA that we have enormous amount of fun repairing the very same mistakes over and over again? It seems to me that EA really thinks that all we have to do is to go online every 30 seconds to look for solutions to problems that were already solved.

I don't think it's 100% fair that all of my posts were deleted because I have a difference of opinion

I don't know what thread you mean, but if you mean this one then they are simply on page 2.

I just played sims 2, and one thing I really missed from sims 3 was the option for really making something your own. Like with the colours and patterns and the traits

Would you care to clarify?  From what I'm seeing, all of the posts you have thus far are still visible.  No one here deletes posts due to difference of opinion.  Unless there was harassing remarks towards others in the deleted posts that you're talking about, I can assure you no one "censors" other people for something as inane as an opposing view on something.

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As for the topic at hand, Sims 2 all the way.   :cool:  Even though I'm having issues with running Sims 2 now, I do enjoy playing it whenever I can.  I just need a better computer to run it on/handle my CC obsession.   :p

They only look horrible if you suck at making them like me. It's a lot more difficult so I see your point but luckily Alex I found a nice Selena sim and I thought she was very pretty so I used her. My friend had made some Jonas ones which didn't look half bad for someone who said they were no good at making people ..

I can't play Sims 2 anymore (well I can technically play but not Nightlife as it broke and that's my favorite EP). I have so much CC from that so I do miss it at times. The biggest thing I miss is the ability to play two families at a time. I get paranoid to play with anyone else with the way they did it..the whole switching active household thing is the stupidest idea ever. I just know I'll mess it up somehow being the smupid person that I am.
There are some positives to Sims 3 though. Ones I can think of are the personalities most of all and the ability to recolor outfits furniture makeup etc with just a click of the button. I believe the relationships are also more diverse too.
I still hope they make an improvement somehow but idk like many others I have no faith in them and I just stick with what I've got.

Would you mind terribly if I asked you to please use proper words, capital letters and such? I realize that with your user name being what it is, you may not even think you need to do so, but really, you do. Lazy posting habits make for grumpy admins, don't cha know?

I know what you mean about capital letters and I am used to not capitalizing because no other forums have minded (I have been on a lot of forums too. this is the internet after all and not college. actually to be honest you should see some of the people that post discussion questions for online college. sometimes they don't capitalize and they can have major typos. once in a while there has even been instructors that have typos. pretty funny if you ask me) and it takes a lot of effort to capitalize when you type fast. however I always capitalize the word "I" in my posts as well as proper names and this issue is closed since I realize that I have to capitalize every time. *sighs* Now I have to go back and edit all my posts by capitalizing to fit the posting style of this one because now the aesthetics are thrown off. I just have one question: where were you when I was not using capital letters in 07 on the old site? Apparently I didn't even capitalize the word "I" then

Other than that, proper words and such? Are you saying my spelling or grammar is off? o O I don't see anything spelled wrong and mind you I look at my posts obsessively. Were you talking about "idk"? That's a common abbreviation for the internet (it was even used in a phone commercial) and that's the only one I used (besides CC and EP but every Sims player knows those. they're official abbreviations so they don't count)

As true as that may be (since I've witnessed it a lot last semester), the internet excuse is really starting to take it's toll.  I'm glad that you're able to type coherently overall, but there's nothing wrong with at least making an effort to capitalize the first letter of a sentence.  Usually, we can understand the occasional slip-up, since it happens to everyone, but to type something incorrectly just because it's the internet seems to be trying to take the lazy way out, just like Paden mentioned.  It's a forum, so it's not like someone has a gun to anyone's head and telling them to post as is or else.   Believe me, one should have plenty of time to check through before hitting the "Post" button.  ;D

To be honest, I have horrible eyesight, so some of the things that help me differentiate sentences in paragraphs and block posts are the capital letters in the beginning in each one.  I know a few other people who also have the same problem here, so it's pretty difficult to even read certain posts that lack proper capitals and/or punctuation.  That's partially why we've included the rule in the first place... to make it easier for everyone to read posts and not miss the concept that the poster is presenting.  That way, there are no hints of miscommunication either. 


With all due respect, that was the old site.  ;)  The rules (http://www.insimenator.org/index.php/topic,100207.0.html) have since been modified, and we have asked for everyone, old and new, to review them and follow through.  All that the staff here requests of everyone is to at least make an effort to do so.  No harm in that, right?

Other sites can do as they wish and be as relaxed about posting etiquette as they like. As Tenshii mentioned, there are reasons we ask people to at least make the effort. (A large one being we want to make sure everyone understands what is written here.) Also, I would like to add I type fast (up to just over 100 wpm on a good day - 70 wpm on a bad one), with arthritis, tendonitis and carpal tunnel syndrome, which will eventually need surgery, and I manage the shift key just fine, thanks. It's uncomfortable for me at times, but if I want to be legible to everyone, I do it.

Take your lumps and listen to the Admin's.  Eat some Humble Pie (haha cute pun).  If I had a nickel for everytime Caffeinated.Joy called me out for my faux pas, well I'm not that good at math so maybe a dollar or so. 

Back On Topic,  I still believe S3, no matter how many EP's and fixes, will never capture the freedom and affectionate attachments that S2 has given us. Viva La Sims2! 

Back Off Topic, till we meet again Joy! ;)

Yes but I was talking about the college website here. It's just kind of funny like I said.
I mean I would think that we needed to have good spelling and grammar in discussion questions too.


I did edit all my posts to proper capitalization though as I said (even the ones that are still here from 07)

By the way, you ever notice how the word capitalization looks like it's spelled wrong? It's bugging me right now and I don't know why.

I still want to know what Paden means by "proper words and such" because I swear I spelled nothing (and I mean nothing) wrong. This is going to be haunting me all day. Case in point, I just looked at my post AGAIN. I'll probably look at it repeatedly every hour like a maniac (oh wait I am a bit of a maniac so I suppose that doesn't matter)

I played Sims 3 yesterday.. and I'm sorry to say this, but I'm jumping back on the Sims 2 bandwagon. :P
Sims 2 has so much more, better CC and I just like the sims better.

I like the sims 2 because I spent a lot of time, money, and imagination into that game and I refuse to let it go.
The sims 2 seems to have endless possibilities, especially with CC and mods.
The sims 3 is too bland for me, almost as if they were too cautious.
Also, is it just me, or do the sims in the sims 3 seem more..cartooney?
I don't know, even without custom content, I still think the sims 2 look better.
I do like that you could customize eye color and furniture colors etc.
Finally, the fact of not being able to watch my sim watch a movie or anything really bothers me. I felt left out.
Wow, that was one giant ramble, sorries.

Side comment: I've been clicking on different topics throughout the night and I am appalled by some of the things people are saying. I can't count how many times caffeinated.joy or Jenna has had to talk to someone about their behavior. Not to offend, but when joining this site, everyone knew what was generally expected and can clearly see that this site handles itself very well, so I'm not sure why drama seems to unfold :confused: Just food for thought.

I love how you guys like picking away at someone's grammar,is that all you have? And to make fun of someone's user name is the very definition of childish to say the least.Sims 2 sims look awful unless you use CC skin,face templates and makeup,the problem with this forum is that if you don't hate the Sims 3 and love the Sims 2 then your opinion doesn't seem to count at all.

And when someone like you comes in trying to start a fire fight and flame war, your account is likely to fall victim to one of our unexplained data base errors. The thread is also likely to get locked. Everyone is allowed their say, period. I don't really give a rat's hind end about someone's grammar or spelling, but I do prefer to be able to decipher where one sentence ends and another one begins. Don't like it? Then don't let the door hit you in the posterior as you go through it.


ETA: If you think this site is bad about grammar police, try MATY. If you do, then I hope that you enjoy being eaten alive, because that is exactly what they will do to you if you persist in acting like a twit.

Minkey, if the only reason you're going to come into this thread is to fan fires, then please don't post. Who's making fun of whose name here? I fail to see it, nor have I done it. As to grammar, we state in the site rules what we expect, and it's for people to make their best effort out of the respect for people who don't have English as their first language. Mistakes happen, which is understandable, but there's a difference between an honest mistake and simple laziness.

Also, you can prefer The Sims 3 all you want. It's your right, something I have also said a number of times as well, and you can say you prefer it all you want. Just expect not everyone is going to share that opinion. If you want to be permitted to tell us how ugly you think Sims 2 is, then expect others will be allowed to say how they feel about Sims 3. You think it's fine for you to say what you want against the Sims 2, but if someone says they don't like Sims 3, or says they think the sims in Sims 3 are ugly, then they're being rude.

What we're taking exception to is your combative attitude. This is supposed to be a discussion, not a war.