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Title: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on September 30, 2010, 12:28:54 am
Within the last few days, I've noticed this incredible lagging when I'm in game. If I stay in the same spot for about a minute, and I move, the lagging starts. It takes a good two minutes for the game to revert back to normal. I have to keep the camera moving. If I stop, it starts all over again. It is really annoying.

I thought it might be an issue with my downloads. But, I have less than 2GB. I know if you have a lot of high poly stuff, that could be a problem. There was a lot of stuff from WallSims in the house I downloaded. They have high poly objects, so I started yanking their stuff out. There's not that many windows, so it couldn't be that. There are alot of trees, maybe it could be that.

I bought this computer new in November. It's a quard core AMD with 6GB of memory. I've got an NVidiaGeForce 9100 with access to 2.5GB of video memory if it needs it. Yes, it's integrated. That still leaves me with 3.5GB of free memory. Windows 7 takes I think 1GB. I'm left with 2.5GB.

I thought it might be because I was using moveobjects and snap objectsto grid.

I'm still yanking downloads out...


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: caffeinated.joy on September 30, 2010, 12:39:47 am
When was the last time you ran a maintenance on your computer (defrag, spyware/virus scan etc). Sometimes, if a drive is badly fragmented or you have a lot junk files, it cause cause the game to stutter.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on September 30, 2010, 12:44:57 am
I did a disk clean up the other day. Virus scan about two weeks ago. I have never defragmented my hard drive.

But, you did bring something to mind reading your post........Copy a few things to disc.

I've got a 640GB hard drive. Almost 300GB free.  What would be considered junk files?

Just ran Malwarebytes. It found nothing.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: BlooM on September 30, 2010, 09:20:24 am
Go back to your desktop the moment it starts laggin(CTRL ESC)
Hit CTRL ALT DEL and look under process wats taking all the memory or under performance to check your CPU usage


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Theraven on September 30, 2010, 09:34:12 am
Well, you could always try to do a defragment and also free up disk space. Both tools are (on Vista) under Control panel--> administrative tools (it's "free up disk space" and "defragment your hard drive").

And have you emptied your recycle bin lately? If you don't do that once in a while, files aren't really deleted. As long as they stay in the bin, it's still saved on your computer and takes up space.

Freeing up disk space deletes temporary files and such, while defragmenting... I think Windows explains it better than I do.

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Disk defragmentation describes the process of consolidating fragmented files on your computer's hard disk.
Fragmentation happens to a hard disk over time as you save, change, or delete files. The changes that you save to a file are often stored at a location on the hard disk that's different from the original file. Additional changes are saved to even more locations. Over time, both the file and the hard disk itself become fragmented, and your computer slows down as it has to look in many different places to open a file.
Disk Defragmenter is a tool that rearranges the data on your hard disk and reunites fragmented files so your computer can run more efficiently.


Lagging could also be caused by big neighborhoods, big lots with tons of CC, a lot of sims, townie/NPC generation and so forth.

Not sure how Win7 is on build-up of memory, but with Vista that's a big problem. Could be that, too. Especially if you've been playing for several hours.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on September 30, 2010, 10:41:22 pm
Well, I defragmented my hard drive overnight. Ran another virus scan. Found nothing. I also uninstalled three programs I don't use anymore.  Then, I went via msconfig and shut down a few unneeded programs at start up because I know I don't need them.

I yanked out my downloads folder, SavedSims, Projects and Neighborhoods folder. When the game started up, just after, Over Waxing Banisters, scrooled by, the game/screen flashed black then blue, then resumed. It's never done that before. The animated preview of the neighborhoods lagged pretty bad. I regenerated all the hood's again on purpose. I didn't even bother going into any neigborhood.

It's amazing how this just all of a sudden just happened.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 01, 2010, 12:47:35 am
Hi, Ed!

Has your game gotten any better yet?

If not, the admin on our site taught me a trick that has saved my game and my sanity a couple of times.

Not really being a techy person, I loved this solution. She told me not to uninstall my game nor any of my EPs or SPs but simply remove my entire Sims 2 directory and drop it on my desktop. Then restart my game and let it regenerate itself. The directory I removed was the one in C:\Users\(your name)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims2. Then add back what you want of the files in The Sims2 directory on your desktop, but not all at once.

I had defragged, scanned for malware and did all the standard systems checks I could think of but nothing helped.

I apologize if someone already suggested this in technical terms and I missed it in previous posts in this thread.

Hugs from Nonni


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 01, 2010, 01:03:28 am
Nonnie, Baaaaaayyy-Beeeee!!!

I followed your suggestion, and it worked!! I tried twice and I don't get those black and blue flashes anymore. Granted, I had nothing in the game when I did that, but I'm happy with the result.

From Las Vegas to wherever you are, I send you a million hugs and kisses.

Thank you!


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 01, 2010, 05:50:43 pm
I am melting with happiness. It is so seldom I can ever give any helpful techy advice. Really, my dear friend, Rebecah, is responsible for the advice ~ I just passed it along. I am so delighted you are back in business and can give us some more of your gorgeous creation. Big, BIG hugs!

PS. I am just across the street from you in Washington.  ;)


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 01, 2010, 06:43:56 pm
I'll tell you, I was just about ready to uninstall my games, then I ran across your post. So, I gave it a try. You know the outcome. YAY!

I don't know why, but, Dean Martin, and the song, Seattle, ran through my mind wen I saw you were from Washington. Lord knows, I just dated myself. YIKES!


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Paden on October 01, 2010, 07:30:10 pm
If you are dating yourself, E, then I don't think I wanna know the details... That being said, cut the age cracks cause in half a decade I get to hit the half-century marks and have the silver hairs to prove it! I'm glad you got help for the problem, I've been beating my head against my desk trying to figure out what could be messing up with your game. Nonni!! You saved the day, woman, great going!


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 01, 2010, 07:37:01 pm
I'm 53.

You know, I swear I didn't want to uninstall the games. But, something made me double check here. 

Who in a million years would've thought that all I had to do was, yank out my Sims 2 folder?!!?

Nonni, Baaaaayyy-Beeeee!! Did in fact save the day.

Thank you both!


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: IronBeard on October 06, 2010, 11:57:23 pm
Fabulous suggestion! I periodically re-install my game just to keep it frosty, but next time I will try this instead. Big thanks to Nonni! 3yay


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 07, 2010, 01:03:38 am
Dearest Iron, Have you been reading J. D. Robb's books about the ... oh, dear this is spamming. Sorry. :-[


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: IronBeard on October 07, 2010, 02:30:56 am
Dearest Iron, Have you been reading J. D. Robb's books about the ... oh, dear this is spamming. Sorry. :-[
That's IronBeard to you, young lady! No, calling a geezer an Iron where I come from will get you a thick ear!
But JD Robb... hmmm... I had a book once. Can't remember the title now... mumble mumble...


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 07, 2010, 02:51:46 am
Young lady! giggle

We really shouldn't meet like this

Paden or Joy will fuss at us
  1giggle


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: caffeinated.joy on October 07, 2010, 02:55:36 am
*cough*Spam Thread (http://www.insimenator.org/index.php/topic,107079.0.html)*cough*

Anyone have a cough lozenge?


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Jenna on October 07, 2010, 03:05:42 am
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Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 09, 2010, 01:54:19 am
Well, the lagging still persists. I kept trying to remember exactly when this all started. I remember I had to download an update for EA Download Manager because I wanted this new neighborhood from Sims Design Avenue. So, I did everything I was suppose to do. Once I remembered that, I uninstalled everything Sims 3 related. Including, the Download Manager. Now, the lagging has gotten to the point of, affecting a different EA Game. Mass Effect 2. So, something on my harddrive is affecting both games. They both lag something terrible.

Took my downloads folder out. Still lags. Updated my video drivers. Still lags. Took practically everything out of my Sims 2 folder. Still lags.

I'm just wondering if I just uninstalled my Sims 2 games and reinstalled them if that would work. That's about my only option.

By the way, does anybody know the exact path to where the games are that I got through the download manager?!!? It would be easier than redownloading them again. If, in fact, they actually are on my hard drive.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: miros1 on October 09, 2010, 02:34:32 am
IronBeard, if you write protect the package files in your game directories under Program Files, you should never have to reinstall again.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 09, 2010, 05:57:34 am
Ed, I am so sorry to hear your prob is back.

You wouldn't have, by chance, made any CAS screens lately?

It probably has nothing to do with your problem.

My troubles started when I made a CAS screen for my medieval neighborhood.

You have my sympathy, dear friend.





Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 09, 2010, 06:23:07 am
Nope. Didn't make a CAS. I forgot how to........lol

I've been sitting here all night long trying to figure out what on God's Green Earth, do I have on my hard drive that could affect two different games from the same company?!!? None of my other games are affected. Just those two.

It's just plain weird....


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: miros1 on October 09, 2010, 10:42:24 am
EKozaki, try renaming your My Documents/EA Games/The Sims 2 folder and let the game generate a new one.  If you can play in the new hood at the previous speed, it's something in your CC or hoods, and we can try to help you sort that out.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 09, 2010, 01:37:42 pm
I've already done that.

Read about it a few posts back.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: IronBeard on October 10, 2010, 09:41:02 pm
IronBeard, if you write protect the package files in your game directories under Program Files, you should never have to reinstall again.
I almost missed that comment. Can you be specific, as I run on a Mac and will have to determine what the equivalent action should be. Ta!


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: miros1 on October 11, 2010, 03:05:26 pm
write protect = make read only

Basically, the operating system forbids the game from modifying files that it should never have to modify, like objects.package, etc.  Zirconia Wolf likes to write protect her custom content as well.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 11, 2010, 06:11:40 pm
Wel, I've spent the last few days trying to get the game to work. I've uninstalled and reinstalled about three different times.

I've been on the phone with HP tech support for about two hours. And, nothing. It's like something sucked the life out of the computer. After about two minutes, the lagging starts, with and without Custom Content. So, I don't know where that leaves me......The game(s) is/are unplayable.

Oh well........It was fun.

On a side note, I copied down the physical memory numbers when the lagging started.

Physical Memory:
5887 total
3852 cached
3839 avaliable
29 free

CPU Usage 46%

I have 54 processes


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 12, 2010, 08:09:25 am
Ed!!!

What do you mean?!?!
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Oh well........It was fun.

Don't give this old lady a heart attack!

Make them take the computer back and get another replacing it.

You can't give up simming, I forbid it!
(I know coming from a wuss like me, its a joke.)


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 12, 2010, 09:46:40 am
HP won't let me take the computer back.

We still have a few more options left. Just can't do everything in one day. But, they think the problem lies with my video card. In the back of my mind, I kept thinking the same thing.

Let's just wait and see.......I'll keep you updated, Nonni Baaaaaay-Beeee!!


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 12, 2010, 04:48:28 pm
Oh, OK. Thanks, Ed. I am breathing a little easier.  :D


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Caleb_71 on October 12, 2010, 06:43:50 pm
I am starting to see this also, with Win 7 64bit Home Premium, while playing last night the game was chugging at 7 frames per second. I am running a Nvidia 8800GTS 512Mb and 4Gb of RAM.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 12, 2010, 07:50:55 pm
I'm going to reformat my hard drive and see if that helps.

One thing I might do is, not let Windows update.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 13, 2010, 09:10:38 am
The admin on our site has Win 7 and recommends it to no one. She has been in programming for 30 years, so I would trust her advice. However, for your sake, Ed, I am hoping and praying you will find a solution. I would really hate to lose a Sim 2 buddy like you, sweetie.  :'(


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 13, 2010, 05:10:13 pm
After a day of searching high and low, I finally found my Recovery Disks.

Jeepers!

Off I go to reformat and reinstall everything.........UGH!


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: fatedicewolf on October 13, 2010, 05:37:51 pm
Good luck ;)


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 13, 2010, 06:04:47 pm
Thank you.

The few people I've talked to all said they reformatted and the games worked perfect.....


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 13, 2010, 09:29:14 pm
Keeping my fingers crossed.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 16, 2010, 10:32:00 am
The reformat didn't work. I have to take the computer in and get it fixed. Luckily, it's still covered under the warranty.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 16, 2010, 10:57:55 am
Aw, dang-it!  :-\


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 17, 2010, 06:07:03 am
It's going to take a good two or three weeks. Since my video is integrated, they have to order a new one.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 17, 2010, 11:52:27 am
I would have such horrible withdrawal pains if I had to do with out my game for that long. Am I spamming here or my comments still considered on topic?


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: EKozski on October 17, 2010, 12:04:55 pm
I've gone without a computer for seven months before. So, two or three weeks is nothing.


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Paden on October 17, 2010, 12:05:48 pm
I don't consider it spamming, you're commiserating with a poor soul who is going to be without their game for a time. Sympathy isn't spamming. At least to my mind, it isn't...


Title: Re: Incredible Lagging
Post by: Nonni on October 17, 2010, 12:22:32 pm
SEVEN, sorry, seven months!!!!

About the only way I could handle going more than a day without Simming is to be asleep or hospitalized.

Thanks, Paden, for the input.

I think it is not just the game I would miss but the connections I have in the community - maybe I could survive as long as I have my internet pals. I would probably do a ton of downloading. Then I would start cleaning folders, organizing files, wishing I still smoked and imbibed in JD. Gosh, I just realized how great Simming has been for my over all health.



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