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Title: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 16, 2013, 08:26:44 am
Not sure where to put this sorry if it is in the wrong place...new on here....After a week of this sim coming home with one of my sims from work I just used the addneighbortofamilycheat on and behold it was a teen... tried to have him get his own place and he couldn't and that is when I realized it was a teen just kept him in the house and in a few days (sim days) he will be off to college....now in the past I have had kids come home with my sims from work...why is it doing this????? thanks in advance....

UPDATE: well sent that boy off to college and good grief next day he came home with my sim again....I figured if I moved him in and then sent him to college I wouldn't see him again fat chance...I really didn't want to move my sims out of a large 2 story house with all their stuff and then move them back in...that seems to be the only way I can get rid of pesty sims that keep coming home every single day with my sims but having the kids and teens come home with the adults from work is really getting on my nerves... :confused:


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: caffeinated.joy on May 16, 2013, 11:10:53 am
This looks like a job for...the  General Sims 2 Help section!

*strikes a heroic pose and moves thread to the right section*

Now, it could be you have a mod conflict. The first thing I would suggest you do is remove any hacks/mods you have, then run your game and see if the problem is still going on.


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 16, 2013, 11:34:09 am
thank you for moving this to the right place, I don't use mods, hacks, cc, or anything like that don't know how to do the downloading....zips or rar or all of those things.....the only thing i use is the cheats and I just learned all of those this last yr and this has been happening from day one....back when I first started playing this game in 2008 with my brothers gf's games...then in 2009 I bought my first sims2 games  just getting fed up with having to move my families out with all their stuff and then move them back in...it's a pain in the rear end lol....I just did a factory restore on this computer not to long ago and have been just playing 2 families at this point....nobody has been able to help me out on this may just call Origin and see what they can do for me if this site can't help...been on the Sims2 forums before they shut it down, and livejournal forums and now here....there has to be others that have or are having the same problems I can't be the only one....thanks in advance

that reminds me....the first time this happened I got fed up with that sim I stuck her in the back corner of the lot and killed her off and omg her ghost started coming home with my sim every single day from work lol...I sent that tombstone to another lot and everything....and I shouldn't bring this up might jinks me lol it has been awhile since this happened I sometimes get a sim that comes home every single day but u can't click on it just have to leave them and sooner or later they go home but then the next day they are back again with my sim after work...with all of this I have to take my sims out of their home and then move them back in....


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: HobbesED on May 16, 2013, 11:54:25 am
When Sims come home with your working Sim, can you not simply click on them and select "Say Good-bye" to send them off to their own homes?

In all of my playing of Sims2, my adult Sims have NEVER brought anyone home from work with them who wasn't an adult or elder. My teen Sims have NEVER brought anyone back with them who wasn't a teen. If your adult sims are bringing back teen or child Sims from work, or your teen Sims are bringing back adult, elder or child Sims from their jobs, then I suspect that you DO have a mod or hack in your game which is doing that.

But regardless of how they got there, you still should be able to just click on the visiting Sim and either tell them "Good-Bye" or "Ask To Leave" if they don't live on the lot. That's a standard dialogue menu choice.


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 16, 2013, 12:14:34 pm
Well ya I guess I could just say goodbye and let it go but that is the point this is happening all the time every single day in and day out my time and sim time....and no I do not have mods, hacks, cc, meshs or anything...I don't do downloads except when I have to download my sims games after doing a factory restore...the last time I tried to use something I couldn't do the rar or zip or whatever it was and went into tears because I had to do a factory restore because I couldn't get all the stupid stuff off of my  computer from the downloads...the reason I went into tears is I had 32 couples in college 2nd and 3rd generations that was the first time I have ever gotten that far ever....so please I am not a kid I am 52 yrs old and am not an idiot...I am however computer stupid....and will repeat this I do NOT do downloads, hacks, meshes, cc's, and mods and all the other cool stuff I would love to have but won't ever get and I just did a factory restore on this computer because my daughter downloaded some stuff and it messed my game up when I went into my game nobody was there....nobody in the bins, houses, colleges nothing just the town...so when it comes to downloading anything on this computer is is not allowed...sorry to be rude but I hate when someone tells me that I have to have mods or something on my computer when I know I don't...also will repeat....I have been having this problem from day one when I was playing on my brother's gf's dicks and when I got my own computer and my own disks it still does it...and since I have learned about the cheats I know my brother's gf does not know about the cheats or hacks because she would have taught me all of this back in 2008..she has been playing Sims games from the very first time sims came out with sims1 she still has alll of the disks...so if it is happening to me with 2 different computers and 2 different sets of disks how do you explain that....thanks for your help in advace...


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: ancienthighway on May 16, 2013, 12:21:53 pm
You don't say what EPs you have.  With FreeTime, there is a chance card that has you bring home a hobby friend after work. In my game too many times, it's been a teen or child (the latest is the paperboy) who should not be at your work place anyway.


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 16, 2013, 12:36:19 pm
Sorry I have all of the EP's have most of the disks but have some that are just downloads I got when I called Origin to buy them and they only had the downloads available I made sure by asking them if I had all of the Sims2 games and after talking with them they said yes I have all of the Sims2 games now and that was just in the last few months that I got all of them...there was one time I brought home the judge couldn't click on him or anything had to move out and move back in and I do get the paperboy every once in a while...

did your paperboy keep coming home with your sim day after day...and if so how did u finally get rid of him without moving out then back in


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: ancienthighway on May 16, 2013, 01:33:11 pm
It was a couple of consecutive days, then I went on to play another house in the rotation, so I can't say how long it goes one yet.


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 16, 2013, 01:52:24 pm
when you have this problem what do you do to get rid of them???would really like for this to stop...this happens sooner or later in every single home...I was doing rotation but with these factory restores that I have had to do lately I have just been playing the Ottomas's getting them back to where I had them before....I think this time around I am just going to play one house at a time till I have everyone where I had them before...thank you for your help


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: ancienthighway on May 16, 2013, 02:13:32 pm
Unless I had a reason to keep them around, children or teens in the house, I'd just send them on their way as they stepped out of the car.  Eventually they stopped, but just coming home a couple times adds a friend to the household.  Works for job promotions for me   ;D.  As far as stopping them altogether, I don't think I did anything and eventually they stopped.

I remember a had a toddler coming home a couple times, too!  Then there were bus/carpool drivers, hot dog cooks, and other NPCs that you cannot interact with at all.


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: Theraven on May 16, 2013, 02:20:03 pm
I found a hack that both asks me whether I really want them to bring a friend, along with one that asks me if that annoying welcome gang can come to visit. At least then I have a choice.  

Not sure where I got them - probably in the director's cut at MATY, or Simbology, or some such.

But there might be something strange going on in your game. They should not bring home people who are not their age (I think adults can bring elders, and opposite, but that's the exception from the rule). College sims should be a no-no (though I'm not sure if that applies to teens sent to college who are not YA yet). And toddlers should never arrive with a carpool. I don't think it's normal with non-interactable NPCs either. If you don't have hacks, then it might be a core game problem. Have you patched your game?


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: ancienthighway on May 16, 2013, 03:07:31 pm
I'm pretty sure the toddler and non-interactable NPC were before the FT patch.  I don't believe the adult/teen issue was ever addressed since you can interact with them.

Monique had a mod to ask about friends coming home from work (MTS for sure, maybe here also).  Twojeffs based his mod asking about children coming home from school off of Monique's mod (Simbology).

If mods are desired, TJ's Visitor Controller will allow specific sims to be banned from the lot, so the offending teen can be gone forever.  But if the desire is to keep it a clean game, there's not much to be done about it short of forcing the sim to die in some cruel manner (building a room around him in a far corner of the lot with no doors or food, removing the ladder when he's swimming).


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 16, 2013, 05:51:46 pm
ancienthighway...I am finally glad to see others have had this problem....wow toddler not cool lol...I don't mind them coming home with them but when it is every single day day in and day out it is getting on my nerves....as long as they are bring that one person home they don't get a chance to bring others home they need for work friends......as for killing them omg I did that once won't do that again....put that girl in the back corner of lot put a fence around her and killed her but the next day omg her ghost came home with my sim and kept coming home every single day....and I did send the tombstone to a cemetery I had made....can't kill the ghost haha, couldn't do anything it just stuck around till morning then left and then came home again with my sim...finally had to move everyone out just to get rid of it...my homes are huge 2 story with 2 helicopters pads on the roof, 2-4 car ports for the teens depending on how many kids they have, indoor swimming pool...every kid gets it own room and bathroom, fishing hole, large garden and 2 fruit trees of each one...take everything and put it all in the inventory then move them all out then bring them back and they have to pay for the house again then move everything back in is just waisting my time....as for keeping a clean game I would love to learn how to do the rar's and zip's and downloads but unless there is someone standing over my shoulder I have no concept of this stuff....when I was in college I froze the computer with these and walked out and tried again and again but finally gave up at least for now...as far as I know there is nobody in this town that plays Sims2 of course I don't hang out with anyone so wouldn't know...have no use for this town or state....on the Sims2 forums before they shut down I had several people try and take me step by step through the process by the time I did the downloads I was in tears...didn't do it right...feel bad for all the people that tried to help me and take their time away from their games....

Theraven....I have all the patches...not to long ago I had to do a factory restore and when downloading the games all the patches went through updated....the only thing is this isn't just my computer or my games this happened when I was playing my brother's gf's computer and her games....she never had any problems with these sims that I am aware of if it did happen with her she was just ignoring them like everyone else seems to be doing....I guess I will have to learn to live with it as well...next time it happens will see how long it takes for them to stop coming home....

for the kids and teens coming home with my adult sims from work the kids are usually a one time thing but this last teen I didn't realize it was a teen till I did the addneighbortofamilycheat on and move him in that it was a teen couldn't have him get his own place so kept him there and sent him to college and good grief he came home with my sim again from work while he was in college

I have had a few come home and you couldn't click on them sooner or later around 2 am the would leave and have no phone to call them...the cook judge was one of them, paperboy or girl, and a few others


Will have to call Origin unless someone has a sollution....thanks everyone for all your help


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: HobbesED on May 16, 2013, 06:23:03 pm
You can stop ghosts from visiting simply by placing their urn/headstone in a Sim's inventory (or by deleting it). Ghosts only materialize if their urn or headstone is placed physically on the lot somewhere.

Good luck with your other issue.


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 16, 2013, 06:30:43 pm
no you didn't read all of it....I made a cemetery to put sims tombstones in....as soon as that sim died I had the tombstone sent to the cemetery the ghost never came onto my property...when it got out of the car it stayed outside the fence until morning then left then came back with my sim from work the next night stayed till morning then came back from work with my sim again...after the third time I had to take everyone out of the house and then move them back in to get rid of the ghost....at no time did it come on the property there was NO tombstone on the property or in inventory....I give up...thanks everyone for your time and help....


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: HobbesED on May 16, 2013, 09:58:25 pm
My apologies. The ghost wasn't haunting? It came home from work with your Sim each day for days on end? That would be a problem.  :eek:


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: LilSister on May 17, 2013, 10:49:00 pm
You can stop ghosts from visiting simply by placing their urn/headstone in a Sim's inventory (or by deleting it). Ghosts only materialize if their urn or headstone is placed physically on the lot somewhere. Good luck with your other issue.

Not a good idea to keep headstones or urns in Sims inventory for extended periods of time. Doing so has the potential to corrupt your game. It is best to move them to a permanent resting place and leave them there.


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: Chris Hatch on May 26, 2013, 12:39:48 am
This thread reminded me that I have a sim that always brings the same sim home from work so I took a good look to see what's going on. I have good news and bad news, the good news is there is nothing wrong with your game, it is not caused by cc (which of coarse you already know), the offending sim is a hobby friend and is supposed to come home with your sim every night. The bad news is that you will not be able to stop/fix it without cc.
The hobby friend's Nid is held by your sim in semi-attribute 0x0023 (35) which is never cleared. When your sim returns from work if she/he has a hobby friend assigned then that sim is used. The job globals never check that the sim is still valid, they just blindly use it.
To fix it you simply need to clear your sim's semi-attribute 0x0023, to do that you will need to download, install and use an item. I have placed an item on box.net for you, it is not zipped or rared so you can simply download and use it as is. It's a clone of the napkin holder from nightlife and found in the same place in the catalog (Decorative / Sculptures). It will just one option, "Remove My Annoying Friend" and that is only available to a sim that has a hobby friend assigned, once used there should be no options available which comfirms it worked. The item (CJH-FixHobbyFriend.package) contains no game overrides at all and is perfectly safe to use.
https://www.box.com/s/2bj7onw2bckdjd9orfcd (https://www.box.com/s/2bj7onw2bckdjd9orfcd)
If you have no cc then it is most likely you don't have a Downloads folder so you will need to create one to put the file into and enable custom content in your game before you can use it. Once you have used it you can delete it from the lot, save and exit your game and remove it from your downloads folder if you like. Perhaps keep it somewhere safe for when it happens again.


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 26, 2013, 02:36:18 am
wow...thank you soooooo much...you are the first person to explain what is happening....I knew it was a hobby friend but didn't realize it was supposed to come home with them every single night....I don't use cc and that zip and rar files are messing me up...this last week did some downloading like an idiot and it messed my game up so bad I had to do another factory restore and am just now getting everyone out of the bins....

It took me 3 yrs but have finally given up on the fact that I will never have cc in my game....all the cool things that can be downloaded and played with Sims2 are just going to have to be looked at when I read everyone's stories and look at the pics...and am content with that now lol....

so you are saying that this thing I need is not a zip or rar and it is easy to download....also how do I make a folder for it....need a step by step on this or I will just mess it up again....never really learned how to download things....and at this point am afraid that if I download anything I will just have to do another factory restore...the reason I do factory restores is because I am not sure where everything is that has been downloaded have looked and deleted files from certain days that I know I downloaded things but my game never is the same until I do that restore...I have even tried going back like a week and restoring but that never works for me either

thank you for your help... ;D


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 29, 2013, 03:23:59 pm
Chris Hatch I did the download and made a file put it in there but not sure what to do next....am just about in tears...I hate downloading things am so computer stupid it is unreal......how do I know if I did it right or not....after your first paragraph I got lost...lol

thanks for your help


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: HobbesED on May 29, 2013, 04:23:12 pm
I'll try to answer based upon what Chris wrote in his post.

1 - after downloading his object (a package file), place the package file in your Sims2 Downloads folder. Your game should not be running when you do this.
2 - start your game and go to the lot where the friend constantly accompanies your Sim home from work is and purchase the new napkin holder clone which represents the object Chris made. It should be found in the Decorative / Sculptures section within Buy mode.
3 - place the object on the lot somewhere and have your Sim click on it. You should see the option "Remove my Annoying Friend". Choose that option. That should be all it takes. If your Sim clicks on the object again, that option should be gone meaning that it has performed its task.
4 - Your Sim should no longer have that friend come home with him the next day.

If you have any problems doing this, don't fret. Just ask. Someone will try to help.


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 29, 2013, 11:45:30 pm
I finally got the folder made and then I left clicked on it and slid it in the Double Deluxe folder did I do that right???..then I went into my game and the cc popped up enable cc with that folder I made in it so got that far then I played the game for a few hours and that person never came back with her...I forgot about the new napkin holder....ok so does that annoying sim have to be there when they click on the holder??... Can it be used more than once and for the whole household or is it a one time thing and has to be bought every single time???


thank u HobbesED, and Chris for all your help...


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: ancienthighway on May 30, 2013, 04:09:57 am
As long as you don't remove the file or delete the napkin holder, the mod is available in that household.  It will only be available to use if you have a hobby friend come home with you.  If the hobby friend isn't on the lot and you can always try it. 


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: HobbesED on May 30, 2013, 08:54:28 am
I finally got the folder made and then I left clicked on it and slid it in the Double Deluxe folder did I do that right???..then I went into my game and the cc popped up enable cc with that folder I made in it so got that far

That sounds like you handled it perfectly!

Next time you are in the game, you should see if the napkin holder is there in Decorative - Sculptures within Buy Mode just to verify that it did install. Go ahead and buy it and place it on the lot somewhere.

From what Chris described, it works only on an individual Sim. So you should try having each Sim in your household click on it. If no option displays then they don't have the annoying hobby friend. If the option does display, then the Sim should click on the option and that should fix it for that Sim.

ok so does that annoying sim have to be there when they click on the holder??... Can it be used more than once and for the whole household or is it a one time thing and has to be bought every single time???

Since what Chris is correcting is within your Sim's data, I don't believe the friend has to be on the lot. Also, it should be able to be used whenever an annoying friend appears. I don't believe you need to buy it each time. But if you have two different Sims on the lot each with their own annoying friend, then each of your Sims would have to click it separately.

Let us know how you fare.


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 30, 2013, 10:27:04 am
I did buy it there was 2 of them and one had the cc logo so I figured that was the one I needed...I tried to just clicked on it and it and I couldn't so I shift and clicked on it and it said force error so I am guessing my sim didn't have that annoying sim anymore...may buy that thing for every household just to be prepared since for some reason all my households sooner or later have this problem..can't wait to try it out....mmmmm I am wondering if it works on ghosts lol.....or even that stupid cow in college...I won't kill off an annoying sim just to see if that thing works on the ghosts though lol....

thanks again for everyone's help..


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: ancienthighway on May 30, 2013, 10:48:22 am
I'd say it only works on hobby sims.
To keep the cow away, or any sim of any manner, TwoJeff's Visitor Controller is probably the best mod available (www.simbology.com)
Ghosts are another being though.  Make a community lot and move gravestones to the newly created cemetery.  Or lay a foundation in the back corner of your lot, no stairs, and place the gravestone at least one square from the edges. 


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 30, 2013, 02:00:28 pm
no ancienthighway what I was saying on the ghosts is the first time I had the problem on annoying sims coming home day in and out I killed it and took the headstone and automatically sent it to a cemetery...but the next day the ghost showed up and kept coming back...so was wondering if I ever killed the annoying sim again (which I will never do again) lol if that thing would work on the annoying sims ghost...was just thinking out loud...as for that stupid cow I just stick it in the back corner of my lot and put a fence around it and ignore it...it either lives forever there lol or it dies and I send the headstone to a cemetery...

I have the issue I think under control I hope...can't wait to use that holder and see what happens...

thanks everyone for your help 


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: HobbesED on May 30, 2013, 05:16:35 pm
I think it should work on any annoying hobby friend brought with your Sim, even a ghost. From what Chris said once the hobby friend is assigned by the game, no further checking of whether the Sim is valid or not is done. That is probably a bug. And that would explain why you had the annoying ghost since it was the ghost of the hobby friend that had the "accident" which killed him. Chris's fix should take care of that should it happen again.

I'm glad you finally got it under control and that Chris was able to figure out what was going on.

And hey.... you even got a piece of CC in your game and it worked! It's just a small step now to put additional CC in if you want to try that. :)


Title: Re: kids and teens coming home with adults after work
Post by: broomhilda on May 30, 2013, 07:33:00 pm
I am not going to test the ghost theory lol....had major storms here so haven't played in the last few hrs going in to test this thing here in a few before the next set of storms :(...

ya finally got a cc in my game but that wasn't the rar or zip things...I found that almost everything is either rar or zip and that is a whole lot harder than just the download that I have taken several days to work out lol....i don't know maybe one of these days may try it again...shaking my head I guess I haven't learned my lesson yet on downloading...just don't want to have to go through another factory restore..I should just be thankful my brothers gf got me hooked on Sims2 lol  ;D and be happy with what I have been playing with in the game....

UPDATE: well since I had that holder only one person has come home with my sims and it just came one time....so that means that holder is working yayayaya...finally after 4 yr I am annoying friend free....thank u sooooo much Chris.... 3yay

UPDATE: I used the holder for the first time today...Rose Greenman brought home the ninja and I was able to click on the holder and it worked...the ninja didn't go home with her the next day...whenever they bring someone home I try and click on the holder to see if they are hobby friends but most of the time they aren't and nobody has come home a second time since the holder...sooo happy :D
 


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