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I didn't think this was even possible, but playing last night I had a sim autonomously murder another sim! It happened in the secret society of my university lot.

I had forgotten to turn off jealousy (with Insimenator) and my active sim flirted with one of the sims there which set off the jealous slap reaction from another sim who was in love with her. I fixed up their relationship and turned off jealousy but forgot about the sims relationship the other guy. He picked a fight with him, which I thought I'd let run its course. Then the other guy disappeared and the fight was over. I searched for him on the lot but he was nowhere to be seen. I couldn't see an urn or tombstone either. There had been no crying softly.

I thought I would nevertheless just get my active sim to check with the Grim Reaper on the resurrectometron (or whatever it is). Sure enough, there he was, dead!

I was so shocked I resurrected him and made him best friends with his murderer, who, incidentally, had the memory only of winning the fight against the other sim. Anyone else had this happen? I have lots of hacks but none that allow autonomous murder so far as I know. I found it very disturbing.

Another curious thing happening in my game is my sims are autonomously falling in love without any romantic interactions. They'll just be talking away and suddenly fall inlove.I don't mind this as it is actually like this in real life (I have found), but I did not think the game allowed it.

I had something similar happen to me today. I had a mascot hang out in one of my uni lots when all of the sudden he started slapping the womans husband. I looked through all of the memories, and everyone only had a memory of just meeting this guy with the exception of the husband. He had a memory of cheating on the mascot, but nothing to do with love. They were friends, but there was nothing romantic. What was even stranger was after that, the husband and all the kids were furious with the mother, but she only talked to him at the dinner table.

I've seen a lot of strange behaviors since installing OFB, so mysterious murders and spontaneous love don't really surprise me much.

Now, the false cheating memory rings a bell. Wasn't this something that was supposed to be fixed in the patch? Or there is a hack to fix it or something. Anyway, I've seen comment about it before.

I also had this, but way back in the sims memory, and, again, I had jealousy off so it didn't bother the family and I never noticed anything untoward at the time. I know it was a false memory as this sim had always been absolutely faithful to her husband. But you could be on to something if spontaneous falling in love triggers this memory in committed sims.

Doesnt really ring a bell for me although i do have sims every now and then falling in love after one normal joke (not dirty) Its wierd!

This is basically caused by "stunlocking". Sim "free will" is essentially an "idle" behavior, in that sims, before finally deciding to take action because you won't, will wait for your orders for a rather lengthy period of time. What happens, therefore, is if you don't do anything, a sim will finally take an action chosen basically randomly from the things he's thinking of. If that action involves another sim, that sim will be forced to participate in it. When the actions finish, both sims then restart their countdowns towards declaring boredom and doing something on their own. If the initiating sim's action terminates first, he then begins the countdown towards when he decides you're not telling him anything new to do and does it. He will most likely choose to act on the closest object, namely, that other sim, before that other sim can finish his idle, and thus forcing him to participate.

As a result, that other sim becomes 'stunlocked', and is unable to choose his own actions. He can eventually die from this if the other sims don't leave him alone because he will never be allowed to choose an action of his own to do something that might (but probably won't) restore his motives.

I was about to say that :)............................ Lol

So he murdered the guy because he was bored! Not even a crime of passion. And he had a pretty high niceness score as well.

Such darkness lurking in the hearts of my sims! I shall be keeping an eye on them.

Ok, I'm dense  - I admit it. But how do you fix the relationship after the cheating?

I have a couple that are really furious with each other because of a little flirting, and now I don't know how to get rid of the furious red face in the relationship panel...

You can use InSim. I believe the quick relations sectional has the ability to change the furious state.

The furious thing is the only thing that really bugs me.  Sure it may be more realistic, but it's annoying.  Plus all the fighting that goes on.  Aragh!

WOW thats scary! I've had my Sims want to see the ghost of someone they're mad at but I never thought they could commit murder! No more free will for them :tongue5:

Small question.  Just answer if you can.  How do you get those crazy secret society people to recruit your sims?  How are they recruited so that they arewisked away to the secret socity house?

They have to become friends with 3 secret society members.

The sim that committed the murder and the sim he killed were both townies. That is what I found most disturbing.

Maybe "C.S.I.:Pleasantville" could be a new expansion pack?

haha. nice one.

I've heard that there is something wierd in the townie code. I remember reading something on the insim'/inteen about having to reset a sim because of townies...Maybe Townies are possessed...O_o...quickly the holy water!!lol

Lol...I 'exterminate' all the townies with my murderous group of vampires, and I'm starting with marsha!

lol, my gothic/angtsy teens will begin in the clubs!!!

There is a painting that was posted on MTS2 which could cure the "furious" state.  I've never found any other way to do it even with insim...

Insim can remove or set furious with the Relationship Adjuster (or is it Quick Relations)?

I just noticed something weird with my sims today too. I've been paying more attention to them since I first read this (just to see if they really are evil hehe) anyways my sim had just moved back to the neighborhood from college with her hubby (Llama). So then Don Lothario came over to welcome them into the neighborhood, Llama had never even met him before, and he started fighting him before he even greeted him. Weird I didnt think Llamas would be mean too :pale:

I had a sim that hates one of the sims she lives with, Petunia, have the want to 'Drink Petunia.'  The info said someting about a plant called Lagana....Laganaphillis....ok, Laganasomething something --it was long and weird and I couldn't find the plant. I moved poor Petunia out obn her own.

Has anyone seen this before? Where's the plant?

Mutantbunny, your thinking of the Laganaphyllis Simnovorii which is the Natural Science career reward obtained at level 6 of the career. I usually call it the cow plant because, well, that's what it looks like. The cow plant eats other sims and creates milk that when a sim drinks it, can add 5 days to that sims life.

Yes, the cowplant.  Had no idea it had a scientific name. Shoulda know. :)

Thats wierd! I never knew that could happen! Funny, is it a glitch?

that happened to me yesterday i could not find my sims lol thanks for telling me

I have had one, but I couldn't convince it to eat anyone lol.  Can someone tell me how to get it to eat someone?  :D I want one to eat some of my "ugly" sims!

Convincing it to eat anyone isn't the problem. Just leave it unfed and it'll poke out this cake on its tongue, and then all you have to do is wait for another sim to grab it and get eaten. Only problem with that is, it may be the wrong sim who grabs it - I hear NPCs like nannies will, and in Uni Professors will; the dorm I downloaded came with one so I found that out the hard way >_< They're good for disposing of cow mascots though :muahaha:

yeah i have ha murder happen myself but i dont mind it so much, all my sims are superheroes and villians, i keep them segregated on oposite sides of my comunity and furious with one another, or atleast in a  constant state of dislike, so from time to time if say professor xavier finds magneto stealing his mail and 1 of them gets killed, i just beg them back to life and chock it upto an alternate reality

:rofl:

Nice play on alt. reality. I'm playing AoA characters in my game.

righteous! hey check out my sims here on insiminator, i know they arent AOA but if ya need costumes for a few people that arent rpresented for AOA then i can help ya out..... just view my profile and go to "threads posed by tophatdan" or whatever...

i would like to see some cool pics of your AOA sims...

I still don't get it. How did the 'murder' happen, anyways? Was it a hack that caused the dead sim, or a wacko bug from the game? 0_0