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Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Squinge on March 24, 2006, 11:50:20 am
As requested:
This mod stops all of your employees from quitting due to low pay & stops the game from charging the owner employees salaries.
This mod is compatible with FFS & GLS.
3/26/06 I added a employees never quit version it should stop all quitting if not let me know & I will try something else.
 
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Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: CyberOps on March 24, 2006, 12:57:48 pm
any chance you could seperate them, i mean the dont noquit and the charge owner ??


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Squinge on March 24, 2006, 01:04:47 pm
Quote from: CyberOps
any chance you could seperate them, i mean the dont noquit and the charge owner ??
Ok i just added a don't quit & a don't charge only version.


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Thraxwhirl on March 24, 2006, 01:43:16 pm
Hey!! :)

This is the hack I requested - no salary charge, right?

Yaaayyyyyyyyyy!!! Thank you, Squinge!! :)

That was very fast considering I only requested it this morning! :)

I'll test it out right away, and let you know if there are any problems. Thank you so much, Squinge. :)


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Squinge on March 24, 2006, 02:00:25 pm
Quote from: Thraxwhirl
That was very fast considering I only requested it this morning! :)
Yes it is your welcome, sorry i forgot to tell you, let me know if you find any problems that i may have missed.


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: CyberOps on March 24, 2006, 02:21:36 pm
super , thanks :)


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: coleysilk on March 24, 2006, 03:00:20 pm
This is wonderful, thank you so much. :)


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Thraxwhirl on March 24, 2006, 04:25:01 pm
Hi, Squinge.

Seems to work fine so far. As you know, Employees get paid on the hour every hour, and at precisely 10:00 am in Malcolm Landgraab IV's Business Lot, I'm very pleased to report that he didn't pay out a single Simoleon. :) Yaaayyyyy!!

A case of "Cometh the hour, Goeth the... well, nothing at all." Lol.

Best of all, the Day's Profit-bar-thingy remained unaffected. That's what really matters, because a drop in Cash can be Motherloded no problem, but a drop in the Day's Profits can't be counteracted(unless there's a hack for that which I haven't seen).

For those of you posting here who may wonder why I so desperately wanted this hack, here's an extract from my initial request to Squinge:

Quote from: ME
It sounds cruel at first, BUT of course many Employees are Townies(and frankly who cares about them, eh?), and so they don't have a real budget of any kind...

...and in the case of CAS'd sims, well, it's not THEIR Lot being played - it's the Employer's Lot - so they're not actually losing out at all if they receive no money. You see, when the Employee's Lot is being simmed, he/she will go to work at his/her job and still earn the daily rate...

...But if you're playing the Boss's Lot, it's kind of unfair if those Employees are lowering his/her profits on days which they(the workers) are getting for free - ie. they don't age on those days, but they are still gaining talent/skill points(with Community Skill Hack) and most importantly, their employer's money. Their Boss(if his Business is simmed a lot) could potentially die of old age before his workers' Lots are simmed again, and his profits have been radically reduced while their home life was never touched... and they still earnt all the talents and skills for free.

In short, to redress the balance and make it fair on the Bosses WE are simming, do you think you might be willing to make a little hack that stops the hourly payment(and profit reduction) taking place?

As I say, the Employees would still earn their daily rate when driving off to work as normal if THEIR Lot is being simmed, so it seems pretty fair overall.


Just, y'know, if any of you folks were interested in my reasons for wanting this. ;)

It's also particularly essential if, like me, you're using Merola's Time Control Clock. You see, the way that little piece of kit works(if set below normal speed) is by re-looping the minutes. Ergo, if you set it slower at, say 20%(which is how I have it), then the minute that falls "on the hour" is looped five times... and your Employees get paid 5 TIMES!! Gaaah!!!

So, in other words, a worker whose salary was, say, 40 Simoleons an hour, would get paid 200!!

Murder on the Profit Margins, I think you'll agree.

Thanks to you, Squinge, my dear fellow, my businesses are saved.

Thanks so much.

I've yet to test how it works if I'm simming a Customer visiting a Community Lot owned by another sim. Obviously the game addresses the situation differently that way.

IF there's an issue there, I'll be sure to let you know... but if I don't come back with a report of problems, I think you can take it as read that all's well on those Lots too.

Thanks ever so much.

Adam.


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Squinge on March 24, 2006, 04:37:09 pm
Great I'm glad to hear it's working the way you wanted it to work.


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Thraxwhirl on March 24, 2006, 08:19:42 pm
I have found one wee issue though.

Well, technically it's not a problem with this hack, rather something that this hack doesn't cover, but which might be worthy of consideration, maybe?

I'll explain:

Just been simming at Malcolm Landgraab's Electronics Supercenter, and I static'd the motives of all my Employees - actually held them at green with Inge Jones' PYP2 Plant - so that they'd never need to take a break.

This way, with a workforce committed to its tasks, the shop should auto-manage itself until closing time, I figured.

Well, just a moment ago one of them quit without any warning, and the ball above her head is still green, and all her motives are up full. And no quitting over low pay should mean that, with motives constantly maxed, the employees should be perfectly happy all the time.

So I wasn't sure what had gone wrong.

Just made her selectable, and it seems that low ASPIRATION must've been the cause of her disaffection. Her Asp is at dead-on zero.

I'm guessing that was the cause of her departure, because everything else seems to be fine. Even her MOOD, strangely enough was green and very high up. ?: Weird, huh?

So it must've been Aspiration, I think.

Trouble is, Aspiration's a tricky one to keep raised on UNselected sims, especially since their Wants are a) unseen while they're unselectable, b) completely randomly generated, c) may not necessarily corespond at all to the commercial sector - ie. Family sims etc. While conversely their Fears may corespond exactly to whatever they're doing at the time, and we've no way of guarding against that.

Do you think it might be possible to alter the parameters slightly so that workers simply never or can't quit, no matter what?


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Entgleichen on March 28, 2006, 06:24:59 pm
I like them to quit when they're low-paid. But sometimes when I enter the lot, I look after how theĆ½ are paid, and it shows that they are paid well. Short time after, they quit. So the game does not tell everytime when there's a change so I can react in time. Would you mind looking into this behaviour?


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: mainegal32 on March 28, 2006, 08:17:13 pm
Thanks again!  You amaze me at how fast you are with these.  Hats off to you and thanks for your hard work!


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Rowey on March 31, 2006, 06:17:46 am
This didnt work for me, I still had an employee quit with Mod installed, and everything enabled, I run ALL Ep's and yeah, my cashier quit on me.

Edit: I will add, I use the Australian Version, which I think is the Same as the British Version of the Game, not the US model, not sure how much different they are, if at all


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Squinge on March 31, 2006, 12:45:33 pm
Quote from: Rowey
This didnt work for me
Which file were you using?
have you tried the employeesneverquit one?


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: kathy on April 01, 2006, 10:28:31 am
Oh awesome....


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: hotrod50s on April 01, 2006, 03:04:06 pm
with the no quit no charge employyee mod i have only had 1 employee quit for unknown reason but i teleported the sim to the home lot to see what his deal was i think sometimes the personality will cause them to quit no matter what.

the 1 that quit had 0 for lazy and 0 on niceness so i figure this one just doesn't want to work and that was the only time he was hired on any lot all the rest stay no matter what.

i also noticed for some reason he hated his sim boss all though thye had never had any confrontation to my knowledge lol i just laughed it off when he quit everyone else was content.

so for me this mod works at least 99% extremely good imo.this coupled with some of your other mods lowers the odds of them quitting period:)


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: RainbowMagic on April 02, 2006, 05:07:26 am
Thank you very much !!
I' ll try it at once.


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: blondecrystal on July 05, 2006, 08:41:29 pm
Another Great Mod....Thankyou.


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: tina7 on August 22, 2006, 11:09:17 pm
Just wanted to say thank you for all your hard work on the mods you have made for us all thank you again.:grin:


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Elven_Ranger on August 26, 2006, 08:36:13 am
Ooh, another goodie! Thank you Squinge :)


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: taniaissimo on September 14, 2006, 01:14:57 pm
Excellante !! so cheap employees and never quit on me hahaha brilliant Thankyou !!


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: ivory_lei on November 30, 2006, 06:06:08 pm
i'm going to try this mod with pets... hope it works. i'll let you know...


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: ivory_lei on December 03, 2006, 07:10:42 am
yay! it works fine with the pets expansion pack. :D thanks so much squinge! the ofb badge bear/painting works as well. *whew*


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: ogdj1122 on December 04, 2006, 01:02:23 am
Thank you for the hack


Title: wondering... and love it!
Post by: nychic_emt on December 04, 2006, 08:01:39 pm
Dare I ask if this might conflict with the better wages on mts2? or is that a 'no no'? :dontknow:   If so I will gladly remove this post.. But, I would like to try this, before I try the other... I am just amazed you have created so much to make the game easier, simplified or just plain normal for us! Thank you very much for ALL of your creations.. and for sharing with us! **off to see what else you have to offer* (I will d/l this and go have some  :coffee2: ,  come back in a few days to see if you or anyone was able to answer that)


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Squinge on December 04, 2006, 08:33:31 pm
I'm not sure but you can try the sims 2 hack conflict detection utility (http://www.simwardrobe.com) to check for a conflict.


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: nychic_emt on December 06, 2006, 06:51:52 pm
Quote from: Squinge;452451
I'm not sure but you can try the sims 2 hack conflict detection utility (http://www.simwardrobe.com) to check for a conflict.


Yep.. I do have that utility.. and I will play with your in game first.. then put that one in and see what happens... might be a few days before I know.. (if you would like to know) Thanks again... :)


Title: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Panther559 on December 24, 2006, 08:31:37 am
Question...(and it was probably already asked) on the "employee never quit" mod, will the owner be charged for the salaries on that one as well, or is that included not to charge. I'm just wondering because I would like to keep the realism of being charged, but yet, I don't want any employees to quit at all. that's about the only thing. All other mods, I will keep as is. :d

Thanks Squinge!! :)


Title: Re: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: aelflaed on January 03, 2009, 09:52:13 pm
Paden's question was never answered, but I'd like to know too. Are the bosses charged with the neverquit hack, or is it just affecting the employees?


Title: Re: Employees No quitting for low pay & no charging owner to work
Post by: Chaavik on January 03, 2009, 11:09:21 pm
From the description on these mods, I am guessing that the business owners won't get charged for the employees' wages if the employees quit on them. I saw two mods labeled that way. You can try either one as a test to see if this is what you're looking for.


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