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It is out here (http://thesims2.ea.com/update/getpatch.php?appVersion=1.13&languageCode=), but it doesn't fix what I wanted. I guess you can see if it helps your game. :(

Child Sims will no longer pop when asked to "Clean Up" the juice tray :smt104

Dont you just hate it when children pop?

Wow those were some critical things they fixed there. I'm impressed. lol I don't see even one of the crashing issues fixed. Good thing we have TwoJeffs, Pes, Inge, and the other modders. Oh and I noticed they didn't do a thing about all the stupid phone calls, other than the magazine one. Wohoo, wohoo.

maybe they will fix the career chance cards in the "next" patch

There were obviously serious flaws with the patch that was released - EA has removed it, so we can assume true to my previous experience, the patch was buggier than the original game or made things worse.

flaws in the patch? remind me not to laugh...

and EA removed it???? WOW! that's the first time they've actually realised they did a mistake...
isn't that just thypical? I downloaded the patch, but I've not installed it yet. and now I'm really glad I didn't it. to be honest, I like better to download fixes made by the gameplayers themselves (like inge jones, twojeffs and those ones). I actually trust them more than the patches!
to be honest, I've never installed a single patch (except the pets one that didn't help - now I think it was something with the cigen/accessory files or something, but I didn't know about those files then. I reinstalled the game without the patch after that)

the only bug I've noticed in my game is the C-button/drawing table that came with FT. The only one. Without patches. (I've got some fixes from the awesome creators we've got ourselves, and they do the job.)

up until now, from what I've seen in the listing of fixes the patches is suposed to do, I've had none of those problems (not counting C-button).

actually, raven they did something similar with the base game - they released a patch, removed it, and had a replacement patch that corrected the first patch within 72 hours, because the first patch actually did the exact opposite of what it was supposed to do >_<

and if memory serves they had a similar catastrophic bug patch release with the University patch, and had a replacement patch in 72 hours.

Oh, they know they make horrors, they just smile and lie through their teeth about them.

i got a question guys...i downloaded the patch and installed it...i didn't see where it affected my game in a negative way at least not yet...but if what you are saying is true how would i remove it from my game if they come out with another patch????

When I installed the patch, I knew it would reset the lots, but now the whole game. The camera mods were written over to regular maxis code and I had to enable custom content, never had that happen with a patch before, at least I don't remember it before. Wow, they pulled it? Oh boy, when the new one comes out, I guess I will have to download the camera mod over again. Reset my lots again, my poor sims are gonna lose their jobs. LOL :D

0.o  Patch's reset lots?!  I'd rather play with a buggy game then... But thats just me...  I've done a lot in my lots... so yeah :s

It completely resets the lots and all the data in them? (Like the sims lose their jobs and everything?) Weird... I know in previous patches it only reset the sims themselves if they were performing an action when you had saved prior to installing a patch... that, and usually the "SimsXX" and "objects" packages that contained those updates.  :scratch:

EA's not doing well at all in convincing me to spend my money on yet another borked product of theirs.  They still haven't gotten the patches down-pat, even after all this time the game's been released... I know it's complex, but thorough testing could quite possibly prevent these things from happening... not 100%, but at least with much better results than at the current point.  :roll:

They don't get completely reset - what lewis probably meant was that the sims normally at work would end up back home, and consequently lose a day's work (if you have holiday time you use up one of those days). This is why I keep Squinge's skip-school-no-grade-loss in my game ;) I do believe JM has a fix in his debugger for work performance :)

I've played with the patch installed and no problems, so for what it does fix, I'll keep it ;) But then, I seem to be lucky with things like patches and securom... :angel:

Okay.  Thanks for the clarification, Sadie.  ;)

Tenshii! what madness is this you speak of?!! Don't you understand? EA does thorough testing, they know exactly how short-sighted, shallow, and herd-beast-like their consumer-base is!!

I am sorry, I didn't mean to confuse everyone. My lots are "reset" to everyone is home and like when they move into a new home. They miss their jobs and the kids miss school, so they lose a grade. The data is still up to date after the last gameplay. I was worried that my sims may lose their job, if I have to install another patch.  I have to check out those mods Sadie had in her post.  The only complaint I had was the patch overwritten the camera mod and disabled custom content, I didn't remember a patch doing that.  Sorry again. :(

No prob, NeeCee.  :lol:  I just thought EA screwed the pooch as big as last time.  It never fails.  :smile bi:

Sure, why'd they even try to get us a decent patch?

Anyway, other than the fact it reset the game, the patch is working fine for me.

If that's the case... there's still room for some improvement.  :lol:  I don't settle for half-@$$ery if I know the people are capable of doing better than what they do at the moment.  Despite the company's shiestiness, they do have some great programmers there, and if it wasn't for the quick-shifting deadline bumps, I'm sure the quality of the game would be better.  (i.e. less potential for bugs).  I'm sure if they pulled a Nintendo, they'd definitely get more out of it.  ;)

But then again, what does a big company like EA care about us?  If it weren't for the heads of EA, we'd have what we were originally supposed to have in the first place, right?  :tongue3:  

(... yeah, I'm pretty cynical right now.  Sorry for those who feel the sting.  It happens when I get "burned" sometimes, and not by anyone in this thread, though... :?)

I'll tell the truth! The patch only resets the lot by bring sims home from work and stopping all actions the sims where doing. Someone earlier asked why didn't they fix those bloody phone calls? I already hate when chatting sims call my other sims all the time. It angers me. I minimize the amounts of phones in my sims' houses because I can't stand the ringing. ...And then here comes FreeTime!

Interestingly enough, the patch has only been pulled from the main site. It's still up at the official UK site :dontknow:

It''s still up at the official Italian site as well - but then ... they are quite slow in updating the site ...

so the first patch i installed has Bugs in it? o_O;

The patch reset my Sims and CC but that was okay (seemingly). The weirdest effect was a car that simply disappeared (and replaced) from a previous gameplay reappeared on the lot.

I am now sitting with this evil patch in game. I am too exhausted to re-install. Hurry up Maxis Morons! Fix what you fixed/broke/fixed/broke/fixed/broke...YIKES!

Wanna hear something really stupid?  I always back up before doing anything at all with my game.  Well, I was very distracted and not thinking and installed the patch without backing up.  All my custom content is really funky looking now with what looks like writing and weird patterns.  Ugh.  Why wasn't I thinking?

I downloaded the patch but was too tired to install it, so I left it sitting on the desktop to install the next day and forgot about it. Still haven't installed it. After reading this I'm glad it's still sitting there waiting for me to install, now it's going into the recycling bin.

Okay...i fell for this patch too
I NEVER EVER download patches, since they have only EVER damaged my game, but with this one i reckoned... since FT is (at that time anyway) the last EP, then there wont be any more patches on (the next) EPs...so ill probably have to get this...

mistake... and unlike people that dont know what the patch does... ive had some serious issues come up that havent EVER happened to me before... including:

*households dont save correctly. when you leave a house to go to the neighbourhood, and click save at the prompt, it "saves" but when you go into that house again you lost everything since your last manual save.

*very slow loads on houses made after the patch. Since ive bought my new gaming PC loads are a breeze... even on huge houses, but post-patch houses, even smaller than the pre-patch ones, take 3 mins + to load, not 10 secs like normal houses. (i know thats still fast, but thats not the point)

*game crashes more

*game "freezes", and the image "scrambles".  you have to restart the pc manually. and of course you didnt save

*no one ages properly.  There are a ton of days added to lives, and you have to use simpe to reduce them to normal.

thats just what happened to me so far. im sure there are more horrors i havent experienced yet!

Tomkat, wow! I agree, for some odd reason the game is taking much longer to load. I have played three individual houses post patch D/L so I have gone back to see if saving was flummoxed. I did have one major game crash that was frightening. The game froze and I heard wierd "banging" noises in the background. I finally had to force close the game and it wasn't easy. When I went back to that lot it opened where it had been last manually saved (I still use Monique's "Save Game" reminder mod).

I haven't (yet) noticed a problem with aging. When I had the atomic crash I was having a birthday party for two kids. The game crashed while the party was in progress. The next time I just used the cake and skipped a party and all went well.

I have had a problem since BV where the lot freezes momentarily whenever I have a Sim use a car, leaving for school or work and also when coming home. Now the lot freezes for a minute or more whenever a car is used (actually, this problem may have become more pronounced after adding the original installation of FT; I am not sure).

I've noticed that freeze with cars too. One problem I'm having is that, despite using my new monster PC (runs a lot faster than my laptop), big lots take forever to load, to the point where it doesn't appear to be making progress :? This is without the patch though, haven't installed it on this one, and don't fancy taking the chance either :P

That "banging" noise you describe could be the music looping like a stuck record. That's the first thing I get that warns me the game is about to crash, and 99 times out of 100 I'm right.

Sadie, I think with the patch installed the car freeze has been worse.

Big lots take a bit longer to load. Pre-patch my game took about 7 or 8 minutes from start up to neighborhood screen. Entering a lot took about 2 to 3 minutes more. Now it takes almost 15 minutes for the same play. I have loads of D/Ls (of course). At this time I have 4.4 GIGS of D/Ls!

My PC is far from anemic. It is 4.6 GHZ, 2 Gigs of RAM, ATI 1650 Pro. All I can say is GRRRRRRR!

Well i'm not sure if the patch made it worse or not....or the game FT itself...but i have noticed the game doing the few second freeze some with the cars but alot longer freeze when changing seasons especially winter and when wolves come on lot...and it gets worse as i play longer...i don't have alot of CC maybe a gig...not even 3,000 things....but i do have the patch in my game, and when a new one comes out will it just overwrite this one or will i have to uninstall FT ?

OMFG! I'm starting to think my sims don't need jobs! I'm so tried already about the car lag thing. I think it's funny though that this is worse after the patch and it's even an issue at all. In all the EPs since nightlife when has lag due to the cars ever been an issue?

Wow. They have to patch up a patch. Thats just sad.

The new patch should overwrite the current FT (failure time) patch.

The saddest part is that this has happened before, with BV I do believe :angry7:

LOL ^^ :laugh:

EA “patches” suck! I installed Pets patch which did not fix issue of pets "sinking" into ground, so I uninstalled game and reinstalled without patch. Then I patched Seasons and game would either never load or crash immediately after start. Again I uninstalled and reinstalled without patch. BV patch crashed game too. FT patch caused error message for every character. Guess I'm just a slow learner. LOL

*raises hand* So do they have an official patch out yet? I got this game a while ago and have yet to install it.

My fully loaded TS-2 Freetime [1v13d0d148] was running fine until I updated 'XP' to 'SP3' and now I too have noticed some 'lagging'... :o

Annoying really, as this patch went straight in - no errors and the game has been very stable again!.

* Strangely, it's still available for download at 'Gamershell.com' - so beware.