Insimenator.org

As requested:
This mod allows young adults to do research, assignments, write term papers, and hack grades on any lot.

Note: EP1 & EP2 or greater is required to use this mod.
 This mod is compatible with FFS & GLS.
This will most likely conflict with my nopartyassignment mod.
 
You should create a test neighborhood if you don't already have one before trying this hack just to be safe until it's out of testing.
 
4/14/06 New: Version 1b added choose major.
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A love offering for Squinge.  
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I don't share my brownies with just any old body, you however kind sir, have permanent access to the brownies stash.

Thank you they smell yummy.

FYI: This will most likely conflict with my nopartyassignment mod.

Ste

What does that do?

Stops YAs from doing assisgnments during a party!  Now that's serious dedication! lol!  I don't know any college students who do that!  Too bad they'll conflict.  They're both good.

Have you tried these to hack together yet?

No, I don't have syberspunk's mod, but I can get it and test them together in a clean, vanilla game if you like.  I've got something do take care of something right now, that'll keep me busy for an hour or so, but then I'd be happy to give these two a whirl togther after that, and see what happens.  Stay tuned......

EDIT: I can't find Syberspunk's nopartyassignment mod, so I can't test it with this one at this time.  If syberspunk's around and can point me in teh right direction, I'll still be happy to test them together.

Heh. That's probably because the name of the thread isn't exactly the name of the mod. :P

You can find it on MATY (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.net/smf/index.php?topic=2419.0) or MTS2 (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=111790). I titled the thread differently in order to be more descriptive, but I used a simpler name for the mod because of it's initial intention and because I didn't want the name of the actual mod to be extremely long. :P

I personally haven't tested them myself but it is obviously they will conflict, especially since I modified the same Test BHAV for college assignments. I explain in great detail what my mod does, so you can read about it if you like. I also include all that info in the RTFM.

As for the conflict, well it really is only a minor one. But I thought I would mention it anyways. If you use my mod AND this one, you just won't get the expected results. Most likely, especially for WinXP users, my mod would take precendence. As a result, all the other college interactions should work, but your YAs won't be able to do college assignments on non-college lots with my mod in place. It's not a huge thing, but users who happened to have both mods might suddenly wonder why your mod wasn't working as far as college assignments go.

And FYI, there is a separate Test BHAV for the actual college assignment objects themselves. The one that you modified allows sims to automagically pull assignments out of their asses to start them. But there is a separate test that lets them interact with existing assignments that haven't been finished yet. The one for the pie menu when you click on an assignment itself. I don't remember if this checks the lot type, but I have changed that as well in my mod.

Ste

Thanks Syberspunk.  No need for me to test then, your post gives a thorough explanation of what to expect (or NOT expect! lol!).

Love your work, and have most of your stuff.  Am surprised I missed that one.

I am however, gonna run with Squinge's mod, as I'm the one who requested it.  I need it for the way I manipulate.....um.....I mean the way I play the game :tongue5:

Thanks again for following up.  

(I was relieved to see MATY back online)

Peace,

Toni (ilikefishfood)

Very cool!!

Just wondering... Does your sims still needs to be a secret society member in order to hack grades?

Probably.  But that could be messing with fire doing that on a home lot while you're controlling the YA.  Remember hacking grades comes with all those security warning messages and a visit from the cops if you fail.  Dunno if the game can handle that kinda manipulation; we're already making it do something that it isn't designed to do.  Careful, you don't want your game to explode!

However, I do have a clean game with test neighbourhoods in it.  SO let me check out this feature and report back.

Yes unless you are using another hack that allows any sim to hack grades, & I would wait for the test results before trying that on a non test neighborhood just to be safe.

Squinge, I love you!!!!!!!!!!

Report:

Ok, I checked the hacked grade option on a home lot.  I used boolpropcheats to make my visiting YA selectable, and sent him off to the computer to hack those grades.

He had a low logic skill, and sure enough got busted.  Everything worked exactly the way it does on a university lot; though obviously it was his parents' household funds that got docked the $450 fine, and their computer that got repoed!

So, all is well using this feature on a home lot.  

However, Squinge........though they are able to write their term papers at a computer and do assignments,  I'm not getting the "college....research" option when clicking on bookcases on home lots. Can this be added?  

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Ok that should be there but mabye I missed a check tree or something I will check that right now & get back to you.
Have some more pop corn :happy1: on me while your waiting.

Version 1.a You should now be able to do college research, I only had bookgloblas in the previous version & missed the one from bookcase globals.

I can be bought! *munch, munch*

4/14/06 I just added choose major to version 1b.

got a problem and i think it comes from this hack, i now have customers coming in and they start doing their college assignments in my shop anyway this can be adjusted ?

I am posting another version of college interactions on any lot that includes no autonomous assigments.

thanks gonna try it out.
 
edit:works great now no problems anymore.

Squinge (I know you are going to read this on Monday), this one worked fine in my game. The YA go to class and do their assignments, research, everything normal. The terms are not shown (you never said they would). It's always the 1st term. Is it supposed to be like this? Another question: do they do the final exam?

I haven't tested up till final exam yet also I didn't realize that the term didn't change there must be another global that needs to be changed, I will try to find it & get it fixed in the next version.

In order for the college timer/clock to work (so they can move on to each semester and eventually graduate) you have to use the Semester Tester.

You click on it and select "start class." This does not start just their specific class that they attend, but the entire college timer. The time stops when you select "end class", and can be resumed at any time. "Go to class" will come up on it's own, and they will gain credit for going. To change majors, select "College" and then select a major, or you can use the Education adjuster from the InSIMenator. If you do this in the middle of the semester, it will reset the "hours until final" back to 72 hours. "Go to final exam" showed up a little late, but the option to send to final by clicking on the sim (College.../Go To Final Exam) was there at the correct time. When they return from their finals, they will have completed the first semester and move on to the next. If the student makes the Dean's list, the money will go into the household.

The Semester Tester is available by typing "boolprop testingcheatsenabled true" in the cheat console. Shift+click on the sim and select "Spawn.../Semester Tester" It looks like the big apple sculpture. There is a downloadable version at MTS2, also.

Hope this helps!

Thanks, Squinge, for this awesome mod!

Interesting thing I noticed since posting. Partway through the second semester she was unable to go to class. She would leave the lot and immediately return. I still made her work her grade up and when finals came again the same thing happened at one hour before final exam. The notice for her to go shows up at the time it is supposed to start (0 hours before final), and she ran off to the exam, and returned immediately, but she passed the finals anyway and moved on to her sophomore year, got the extra slots and everything - so I suppose it isn't that bad, but I thought that might interest you.

I hope this mod is not necessary for the YAtoTeen mod. I've been having quite hard times trying to stop reading interactions. All my houses with basement now have a very deep hole where I bury all Bookcases, telescopes and other disturbing objects.
Question: What happens to those Home YAs when they finish the age (do they age?) or should I decide self how long they are going to be YA?

This mod is separate from the teen to YA mod, for the aging with version 1a they stay a young adult until you have them grow up.

Hmm, well alas I have found this not to be the case at all.

Using the Semester Tester does indeed allow the clock to progress, but I've found there's no autonomous going to Class or Finals. Not a problem in itself, as one can always nudge the sim into going by clicking on him/her.

But, once the timer reaches 1 Hour until Final, the sim can head off to the Exam sure enough, but the timer never hits zero, it just stays at 1. The sim then returns from the Exam, with GPA increase for Class attendance, but the timer still shows "1", and there's no progression to the following semester.

Don't know why. :-s

Edit: Oooooh, I think I may have the answer. My sim had just returned from her Exam(which had been treated as just "Class", and with no semester progression).... but once home, I switch "Aging On" on the Lot(it'd been off, y'see).

She immediately got the nudge to go to her exam, On the Hour, and autonomously dashed off to it... her status NOW says, "Final Exam in Progress", which didn't happen before.

I'm just now waiting for her to return from the Exam, and HOPEFULLY it'll put her through to the next Semester.

So, I THINK it's just a uestion of Aging.

I'll soon see. :)

Could somebody who has this working post step by step instructions on how to get a teenager through college at home (assuming this is actually possible?)  I'll explain what I did, what did and didn't work.  I had this mod installed and I picked up the downloadable Semester Tester at MTS2 and put it in the house.

1) Changed teen to young adult instantly with the Insimenator Temporal Adjuster.

2) Went to computer and chose major.

3) Started class with the Semester Tester.

4) My student could NOT go to class, autonomously or otherwise.  There were no college options when I clicked on the Sim except "do assignment."  However, not being able to attend class didn't seem to do any harm.

5) I had them do research, write term paper, and do assignments periodically during the 72 hour semester so their grade was at least in the white range.

6) When it got to final time, same as going to class, they couldn't go.  The clock would eventually tick to -2 hours and still read "Final Exam in Progress."  This is where I was stuck.  

7) Used the Semester Tester to switch them to the next semester.  This didn't seem to work.  So I went with Twojeffs College Adjuster (I think that's what it's called, it's a stack of phone books.)  That did the trick.

8 ) Graduation - discovered that hitting "Graduate" immediately maxes all their skills. :!:    I don't want that, so I quit without saving, then went back and tried "Graduated" (past tense.)  That gave them a diploma and left their skills where they were.

9) Changed student to Adult instantly with the Temporal Adjuster (a birthday didn't work - it took them straight to elder.)

So it works, but not perfectly.  I don't know why my Sims can't go to class, but I really don't mind because the idea is that they're taking a college correspondence course or something so they wouldn't actually be going to class anyway. :lol:   But I'd like the transition from semester to semester to be smoother.  I'm considering not even using the Semester Tester and just using Twojeff's hack to put them wherever I want them semester wise.  

Anyway I was just wondering if anybody who has this really working right could post how they do it.  I probably have a hack conflict or something that's causing my students not to be able to go to class.  

Oh also, with this they can be a college student AND have a job.  The only problem is their job data panel doesn't show up.  But the carpool will come and the job works normally.

Edited to Add:  After reading the previous post I'll note, I did have aging ON in the household. :)

Quick question - did your Teen sim have a Teen Job before you aged 'em to YA?

Something I meant to update on my previous post was another finding...

IF you give your sim a job(with the Career Adjuster I was able to give my YA a job) then it messes up the College Timer, and even if you then put the sims' aging back on, quit the job etc. his/her timer cannot be restarted... unless you take the sim to a College Lot, move him/her in there, then bring him/her back home and move him/her back in again.

Now it may well be that giving a Teen a job, prior to aging them at home, screws up their College Timer. Uncertain, but it definitely does it if you give them a job once they're a YA.

So, er, well, that's one thing that springs to mind - Career. Did this sim have a job whilst a Teen?

If that wasn't it, I dunno. Sorry.

But beyond that, I'm not sure. You mentioned that "Go to Class" wasn't available, and also that using the Semester Tester to "Graduate" maxed out all their skills! Gaahh!

To be honest, and reading your account of all that you did, I can't really help you, as it seems you did everything right.

The only thing I CAN suggest is that you MAY well have a conflicting Hack. Worth a thought I suppose.

I know that I have at least two hacks currently not doing their job properly(one of which is "Bite Anyone"), and I need to get around to finding which hack or hacks might be the obstruction.

Sooner or later I'll actually get off my butt and find out. Lol!

Soooo... all I can suggest to you is that a) you check to see if this sim had a Teen job, and try again on a Lot with a Teen who didn't, and b) look for conflicts.

Hope you can crack it. :)

thanks so much !

My problem with students not being able to go to class has been unexpectedly solved by Pets!  I took the Insimenator out of my game because it hasn't been updated for Pets yet.  Then I was clueless on how to age a teen to a YA without it, so I came here and downloaded Squinge's teens age to YA without going to college hack.  When Alexander Goth aged to a YA with that hack, the next thing I knew, he was going off to class!  So it seems that aging them any other way besides with Squinge's hack doesn't work right with the college interactions on any lot hack.  But the two hacks together make the whole college at home thing work perfectly.  Yeah! :)

Thank you. It sounds to be better than University itself.

G'day Squinge. Just wanted to say thanks for this, and all your other, hacks and mods. Your hard work has made the game more enjoyable and realistic.

I would make you some brownies but I'm a lousy cook.

Regards,

Will

I would like to say thankyou also, hacks like this make the game seem more realistic, even though it's a game - thankyou

Thanks for this, Squinge, and its TeentoYA partner. They make things work so much better! (I haven't tried them with Freetime yet, hope they work still.)

By the way, I found that this mod was needed to enable research on bookcases when using Lion's Unitest Goldrecord (MATY). That mod works well if you want a college lot in your main hood, but not to have all teens go through the YA stage. However, I discovered that the bookcases didn't work, until I added your mod to the mix.

I saw that teentoYA isn't compatible with AL, hope you will get around to updating these college mods sometime. They really add to the game.

Thanks again.

Note for other users - the college mods seem to be okay with Freetime still. Thanks Squinge.