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Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dizzymental on September 08, 2008, 01:48:05 am
1. You can't seem to change the Roommate's clothes. Or so it appears to me right now anyway, unless someone tells me different.

2. It seems to me at the moment that you can't get your neighbour evicted and have a new one move in.

3. You can't move a new sim you created into an apartment nextdoor to a family you've moved into an apartment on the same lot. Seems one family, one apartment lot, all the rest NPCs.

4. The same NPC sims move into the apartments everytime. Unless my game has gone nuts already after a couple of days of play. LOL.

5. One more thing I just remembered. Still, no bunk beds. Grrrrrrrr.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: jaccirocker on September 08, 2008, 02:01:08 am
1. No you can't as of yet, I took my roommate shopping and she still couldn't change clothes.

2. No

3. You can if as soon as you move someone in, Save and exit the lot, the other unit /s are available.

4. I haven't noticed.

5. Very true


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: ancienthighway on September 08, 2008, 02:21:09 am
Christianlov's clothing rack works fine for outfitting the roommates and npc tenants.  As an alternative, the Townie and NPC Maker, spawned while testing cheats are enabled, has an option to change clothing for townies and NPCs.

Actually you can move a playable sim into an apartment that you already have one in.  No need to move one in and save as jaccirocker says.  At any time, you can select the apartment to move to and you will be given an option that allows them to move into the same unit (merging households) or into a different unit.  If you chose different unit, the npc sims "move out" and you new sim can chose to move into any of the non-player occupied units.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dizzymental on September 08, 2008, 09:52:35 am
Yes, thanks for the replies. You're right, I've just discovered that you can move playable sims into the apartments next to your sim families already living on the lot. It evicts the NPCs and replaces them. And thanks for the clothes hack/advice. Cheers. :)


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: patdee on September 08, 2008, 10:07:43 am
It is the same Npcs everytime you move into an apartment I have moved a sim in and out several times and it is the same set of npcs everytime. but what I did find is before you move sell the kitchen and bathroom, move out then back in the kitchen and bathroom are there again so you make a profit ( do not sell things you bought as you will just have to replace them) only good for people who don't use money cheats.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dizzymental on September 09, 2008, 01:53:45 am
Hopefully somebody will come up with a hack/mod or details of how to change the pool of sims that EP8 uses for the apartment residents. That way we'll be able to change the sims that move in eventually.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: zilzos on September 13, 2008, 08:31:59 am
What are NPC's

  dont laugh - I've seen it written everywhere but still not sure what they are ?


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Mr Heartache on September 13, 2008, 09:34:42 am
non playable characters.

To deal with my sims having to er, deal with the same NPCs all the time, I'm using my vampires to cull them if they appear on the different lots more than once.
I have to say, as weird as it sounds, it's really fun culling townies using my vampires xD


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dizzymental on September 14, 2008, 02:20:23 am
You can also cull ("Kill") them using the gun from Paladin's site. Anyway, back to things bugging me about AL... there's more...

6. You can't make a roomie or neighbour pregnant (unless my game is broken - very likely). Don't know why Maxis removed or changed that, doesn't make sense to me that you can't try for baby with a roommate or neighbour. I can see where there would be a problem with NPCs but with your own playable sim neighbours, the option to make them pregnant should be there.

7. It appears you can only have four families on an apartment lot in apartments, all the rest are NPCs (apartment dwellers from a very small pool of ugly sims). So no matter how many apartments you build, you can use only four of them.

8. So far (again unless my game is broken), you can't complain to the landlord/lady about the noise in a building, only about roaches. Seems pretty obvious to me that this option should be available in a "realistic" game.  

9. A playable sim who becomes a witch/warlock makes very annoying changes in dress. When you make them study the path of light or dark, the clothes keep switching to represent their inclination to the light or dark side of magic. It's really really THE. MOST. ANNOYING. THING. EVER. to have them keep changing into a different hat and cape, and going green, and then back again, just because you used a neutral spell or a dark spell or suddenly decided to use a good one. This happens when you're on the cusp of good/evil/neutral witchiness. Hopefully there will be a "Don't-change-into-witch-clothes-you-stupid-sim" hack, quite soon. :)

10. The change to green when a sim becomes thoroughly evil just makes most sims looks like deflated puny versions of the hulk when they dress for bed or do the naked thang etc.  

Finally, and this probably has nothing to do with AL bugs, but just for your amusement, here's something weird. You've seen the Elephant Man, well here's The BookHand Boy. Terrible afflication, happens when you read too much. Poor kid can't even sleep properly. No cure as yet ... LOL


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: ancienthighway on September 14, 2008, 02:35:58 am
6.  This is the way it's always been.  Only a currently playable (read selectable) sim can become pregnant.  If you want the risk of a playable neighbor to become pregnant, you have to make that sim selectable.

7.  I looked into modding this.  Unfortunately it appears to be built into the executable and cannot be modded.  I'm still digging though.

8.  I've had the option to complain about the noise.  When the noise is on going, check the phone if the landlord isn't around.

9.  Make up your mind if you want to be good, neutral or evil   lol

10.  Check the game mods here for a hack to do away with the witch skin tones.  While you're at it, get my mod to enable witches clothes to be worn as outerwear and formal.  Otherwise that will be on your next list  :P


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dizzymental on September 14, 2008, 03:05:46 am
About 7, keep digging please. Would love to be able to place more than four families on the apartment lots. :)

As for 8, I plan on trying this. Thanks.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dizzymental on September 17, 2008, 03:18:08 pm
Haha got one more to add to the list:

11. We need a hack or something to stop the idiot landlords from buying a pizza that nobody eats and calling it an apartment party. Most ridiculous thing ever. :)

By the way, I found the hack today to stop witches changing skin colour. On ModTheSim2. All I need now is one to stop them changing colour when they get too cold, and my machine might even stop chugging. LOL

Still no cure for BookHand Boy, who is now BookHand Teen. Soon to be BookHand Man. I'm gonna make him BookHand Dead if it keeps up.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: ToxicKitten on September 17, 2008, 05:39:55 pm
lol @ "BookHand Dead"

i'm not sure exactly, but i think there is something that keeps the sim from changing when cold.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dizzymental on September 20, 2008, 01:44:23 am
I wouldn't use Boolprop to age them. Boolprop can weird up your game at the best of times.

Remove your hacks. That's the first thing I'd try. Or try using Insimenator to change their age; brilliant piece of kit that usually fixes any problem. Well, except for Bookhand Boy. :)

If all else fails, remove Uni. It's the least interesting expansion pack anyway. More a drudgery than a game. And who wants to be reminded of all that studying? I certainly don't. Makes me ill just thinking about the days and nights I spent poring over texts. Don't want to simulate it in a game God help us. :)


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Michele on September 20, 2008, 07:11:04 am
TO fix BookhandBoy, run "boolprop testingcheatsenabled true", shift click the kid, force an error, click delete. Save and exit the lot.
He should appear by the mailbox without the books in hand.

I've had this happen with the "spray paint" for the car before this EP came out, and with the wand in this  EP.

This fixed my sims.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: ancienthighway on September 20, 2008, 11:57:12 am
Quote from: Phenomenallove;1387520
Im out of ideas! How an I stop this happening, or at the very least turn them into proper adults when it does happen?? Can anyone help?

:(

Take Inteenimater out of your game if it's there.  It's not compatible.
Take Squinge's College Interactions on Any Lot out of your game if it's there.  While it may work with AL, it doesn't sound like it's working for you.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dizzymental on September 21, 2008, 03:42:37 am
Quote from: Michele;1387960
TO fix BookhandBoy, run "boolprop testingcheatsenabled true", shift click the kid, force an error, click delete. Save and exit the lot.
He should appear by the mailbox without the books in hand.

I've had this happen with the "spray paint" for the car before this EP came out, and with the wand in this  EP.

This fixed my sims.


Thanks I'll give it a try. You may have just saved BookHand Boy's life. :)


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: glenglenda on September 21, 2008, 05:39:26 pm
I have a minor issue with my game - one of my sims has a want to "read someone to sleep," a new interaction I haven't seen before. So the instructions were to have the child relax in bed and select "Read to sleep." So I tried that, but the "read to sleep" option never appeared. I clicked on the kid, I clicked on the bed, I clicked on the bookshelf, I clicked on the parent, and couldn't find this option anywhere.  I even tried differend beds lol.  Has anyone else had this problem?


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: ancienthighway on September 27, 2008, 02:20:49 am
If you don't have all the closet options, you either have an outdated version of Squinge's PregnantWearAnyClothes (it's been updated for AL) or a custom dresser or some other hack interfering with the closet.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: pokose7en on September 27, 2008, 06:05:50 am
Mine is sims always eat at their rooms....
Always.Always.
Why can't they find the nearest table and seat to sit and eat?
I'm clueless, hope there will be the mod for this soon.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Sam the T-man on September 27, 2008, 11:28:07 am
I have but one bugbear with AL so far - the new way it handles guests. More realistic maybe, but if your sims are too tired and the guest (in this case, invited herself round) decides to stay all night, you then end up with a "you invited me to stay over but didn't let me sleep" rant - never mind the fact that you a) didn't invite the sim to stay over, and b) you actually have a spare room for the guest to sleep if they so choose :x This is despite the fact that other guests still follow the old behaviour of leaving at about 2am.

The "be greeted" thing is annoying, but I can live with it. I like how it factors in outgoing when deciding whether or not to push your sim into doing it though. Quiet sims are behaving more like quiet sims, finally :)


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dizzymental on September 27, 2008, 04:09:03 pm
Quote from: Sadie79;1397841
I have but one bugbear with AL so far - the new way it handles guests. More realistic maybe, but if your sims are too tired and the guest (in this case, invited herself round) decides to stay all night, you then end up with a "you invited me to stay over but didn't let me sleep" rant - never mind the fact that you a) didn't invite the sim to stay over, and b) you actually have a spare room for the guest to sleep if they so choose :x This is despite the fact that other guests still follow the old behaviour of leaving at about 2am.

The "be greeted" thing is annoying, but I can live with it. I like how it factors in outgoing when deciding whether or not to push your sim into doing it though. Quiet sims are behaving more like quiet sims, finally :)


I thought this was only happening in my game. Yep, the way Maxis have set up the behaviour of the apartment dwellers is a bit mucked up. Hopefully we'll have hacks to sort all this stuff out eventually. Still got my fingers crossed on a hack to stop the landlord from showing up after you rent an apartment unless you call.

:)

Another thing bugging me that I should add to my list is the problem with beach lots. I know you can correct the problem by using SIMPE and changing the elevation number but it's a real pain to have to do it.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Sam the T-man on September 27, 2008, 04:15:34 pm
I haven't played apartments long enough to invite guests, that's just it; this was all in a regular house.

Agreed about the beach problem. I guess it's too much to hope for that it gets fixed in the patch?


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dizzymental on September 28, 2008, 12:19:51 am
Quote from: Sadie79;1398289
I haven't played apartments long enough to invite guests, that's just it; this was all in a regular house.


Ah now that makes me wonder if a hack is causing that to happen then. I have a "stayover late" hack, or something like that. I put that in since installing AL, which is when I first noticed what you mention. Blimey, these hacks! LOL.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Sam the T-man on September 29, 2008, 05:10:14 am
I don't have any hacks like that - the visitors stay late enough without them :lol: Plus, this is a legacy so I don't even have the visitor controller :(

I've heard other complaints about this too, and I don't know if they were apartments or houses, but they seem to be handled in the same way. It seems to be random, too :oogle: Guests would sometimes stay overnight in this way before, but never got that ranting dialogue before AL.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: ancienthighway on September 29, 2008, 06:50:04 pm
I've noticed it, but seeing that there's no major damage to the relationship, I don't worry about it.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Raeysama on October 01, 2008, 10:48:22 pm
Ever since I installed AL there has been a alarming influx of elderly people around my area. Its weird or maybe i'm just starting to notice the npc's in the game.  Is this happening to anyone else?


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: ancienthighway on October 03, 2008, 04:17:08 am
There are more elders as part of the social classes.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dizzymental on October 04, 2008, 03:03:25 am
Your closet problem sounds like the pregnancy hack. I think Squinge has fixed it now, so you should download the new version.

Quote from: smurfs8mysox7;1405864


I also have this one sim who has a bird statue stuck to her head. No matter what I do it wont go away. I even deleted her and it was STILL there. She got it after coming back from vacation. She's an adult and it's still there.


Like BookHand Boy, even when he grew up he still had the stack of books stuck to his hand. In the end I turned him into BookHand Dead. His gravestone is in Central Park.  

Weird thing about the bird statue though: in the duplex apartments, my sim neighbours kept going around the side of the house, and then wandering back. I found a bird statue out of the grid back there, in the corner, and I know I didn't put it there. Very odd things going on in AL. :)


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Wembeley on October 06, 2008, 09:13:26 pm
The most annoying thing to me for Apartments is that I think if you are on an apartment lot you should be able to switch between apartments/families on that lot and not have to go all the way back to the neighborhood and then select the new family you want to play and re-load the lot.  That would be a huge time saver.  Maybe there is a programming thing that makes that not possible but if it were possible that would be something that would make Apartment Life a really neat addition to the game.  As it is, you get stuck with closets that block your view a lot of the time and you are limited to build/buy where you want to and it's just very restrictive.  I use it for a few families when I want them to get to know each other and don't want to have to spend a lot of time on community lots to build up their friendships but as soon as they know each other well enough to be able to call them and invite them over, I move them all out into their own houses.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: SuSim on October 17, 2008, 09:27:21 pm
Quote from: smurfs8mysox7;1405864
One last thing. Does anyone else have a problem with the Holiday Roast? When ever I try to make it it says the fridge is empty. Makes me mad! I want to make a Christmas Bakery and I can't!!!!

To make the holiday roast you need the "A Touch of Autum Cornucopia" $73 in Decorative, All.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Panther559 on October 20, 2008, 01:09:27 am
Quote from: Phenomenallove;1395988
thanks guys! inteenimator is gone, and so is university, so now my teens have stopped running off to university spontaniously.

Im having a little issue with the closet things. I have bought outfits for my sims but the only option available when i select the closet is dress for work (or safe woohoo). Only a minor glitch though. Other than that my game seems to be back to normal, abeit a little less interesting without my overly fertile teen mums.

Thanks again for your help!



I've just purchased the AL expansion. So, you are saying that the closet doesn't have any other functionality besides dress for work, or safe woohoo?


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Gena575 on October 25, 2008, 05:30:45 pm
I've lurked around here forever and this is the first time my searching hasn't turned up an answer.  

I'm having issues with neighbors just popping over...over and over and over.  I've set the door to disallow lot visitors, but the neighbors won't stay gone.  It wouldn't be so bad, but my roommate absolutely hates Neil Chambers AND Christian Love who also seem to hate each other.  The 3am kitchen brawls are getting annoying.


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Kat on October 26, 2008, 10:31:07 pm
Is anyone else having the problem of the school bus not showing up on apartment lots?


Title: "Patches, I'm depending on you Son..."
Post by: DocFX on October 27, 2008, 05:30:50 pm
Quote from: Kat;1434211
Is anyone else having the problem of the school bus not showing up on apartment lots?


Yep!, when I ran 'AL' for the first time - before installing the latest patch from EA...

We're fully 'Patched' and everything appears 'Shiny' now - the game seems stable again - hoorah!. :)

As to the things that bug me about 'AL' - is it me, or is there something not quite right about a Landlady/lord wanting to hang around your flat all night - especially when they've just taken money from you too!. ;)


Title: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: lewisb40 on November 03, 2008, 11:42:26 pm
Quote from: DocFX;1435141

As to the things that bug me about 'AL' - is it me, or is there something not quite right about a Landlady/lord wanting to hang around your flat all night - especially when they've just taken money from you too!. ;)


Comicalmuse has a fix for that here (http://www.insimenator.org/showthread.php?t=94908).

Poor bookhand boy/man. RIP. LOL!


Title: Re: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: Dragonnn11 on December 23, 2008, 07:51:54 pm
5. Well...Actually you can get bunkbeds, but, they would be custom content, ive had some in my game before, and with all respect they're AWESOME, but, yea. Maxis should make bunkbeds that would be a nice feature


Title: Re: Few things bugging me about AL
Post by: victoriageras on December 29, 2008, 08:03:26 am
Hello!

The thing that i love to hate in Apartment life,is the butler.I firsted used him,when my female sim became pregnant and i didn't want her to make anything exvept reading,watching TV etc(i pumpered her a lot).
So when the baby was born, i couldn't get the darn buttler away from the nursery. When i tried to feed,change or bathe the baby the butler literally snatched out of my hands and did those things himself. Needles to say, that he didn't do anything else,like cooking, gardening etc.
And things got worst when Micheal (baby) became a toddler. When i was learning him the skills that needed, the buttler would interrupt to feed him/play with him, or snatch him to get him to sleep,while Micheal's bar was quite full ( kind of zillion checked it).
So i tried to dissmis him for i don't know how many times. He always came back. I ended up his services. Nada. So...... i had my revenge when my toddler grew up baddly. 4 words. Paladin's box with axes. Miracle that one~!!!

Anyway, i kind of re-used the butler in other lots just to test if the whole thing was a glitch or sth like that. While the other ones, wheren't push the whole nunny thing in those lenghts ( i think, they loved their heads to much), they where still really really pussy about the baby/toddler cares.




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