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1  Simmers' Paradise / General Sims 2 Discussion / Advocating Free Content on: May 12, 2005, 09:50:22 pm
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But still, the community was around for several years with not so much as a single request for any money, even voluntary, unless you count the charity CD which I think they never did finish anyhow.

 

Well, Bethsoft themselves put they kibosh on that... so it never happened and no money changed hands, charity or no charity.

It's almost 4am. I should be in bed...
2  Simmers' Paradise / General Sims 2 Discussion / Advocating Free Content on: May 12, 2005, 09:35:34 pm
Quote from: Motoki
Sleepy: There are several Morrowind mods that are near 100 MB and there's at least one that I know of that is around 1gb, and no that's not a typo. They are all free. Some of the mods have literally been worked on by teams of people for months or in some cases years and I know of at least 3 people who have modded for the Morrowind community that also work as professionals in the gaming industry. Again, all the stuff is free. No one has ever asked for a penny, not even donations.

Not entirely true. One of the bigger 'new' MW hosting sites recently threw out the begging bowl, after dying in controversial circumstances and having everyone and their next door neighbour crying 'No! Where do we put our mods now?'

The whole episode made me rant something chronic, as I'd been asking for help just to run the site (hell, I'm out contracting 45 hours a week, spend another 15 hours doing other business activities - plus two new projects on the boil. Morrowind used to take up a good 20 hours of my time testing and reviewing mods alone) as I was about to burn out. For three months, I asked, and it took this other site (and a couple of others) to fall over (for about the third time) before anyone with the skills I asked (not uncommon skills, I might add) to offer help. Of the three who finally did, two have all but vanished.

But back to the point in hand. Some of the mods (such as The Underground by Qarl) are tremendous in their scope and sheer technical brilliance. They make many Sims mods look amateurish and simple by comparison (and I offer no apologies here, even though some of the 'hacks' - I prefer the term 'mods' personally - are great). People such as Aerelorn and Shanjaq have done things everyone said couldn't be done (changing the fundamentals of the combat system, creating writable books and journals, creating a 'multiplayer' variant). Not one of those mod authors gained a single penny from their work. Many would have spent a lot of money on software such as 3DS Max to create such work in the first place.

Like I've said before, and can't emphasise enough - EA/Maxis have set a dangerous precedent by allowing this practice to go on. It should have been stamped out before it ever began. Now the floodgates are open for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to rattle off a pay site in the mould of TSR (hmmm... case in point... isn't that a trademark of Wizards of the Coast, Inc?) and make money of unsuspecting mugs^H^H^H^Hnew users...

Regards,
Pauly
Ranting again :rant:
3  Simmers' Paradise / General Sims 2 Discussion / Advocating Free Content on: May 12, 2005, 02:03:03 pm
Quote from: Motoki
If someone uploads your stuff somewhere else, guess what they gave you a free mirror for your file. tongue

Now that gives me an idea... perhaps I should approach all those creators of naff mods, such as 'another generic house mod that took me 2 minutes', and offer to host them if they pay me...  :twisted:

Of course, I'd still let people download it for free...

Regards,
Pauly
Scheming and Twisted Admin-Thingy of Thingies
4  Simmers' Paradise / General Sims 2 Discussion / Advocating Free Content on: May 12, 2005, 09:08:37 am
Quote from: beosboxboy
I don't know what to say to that, makes me want to get a red pen.

What is scary is who said it. Let's just say the administrator of a certain site, as a closing comment before locking a thread...

Regards,
Pauly
Ranting Away
5  Simmers' Paradise / General Sims 2 Discussion / Advocating Free Content on: May 12, 2005, 07:42:44 am
What makes me laugh is sites like TSR claiming that the only reason they charge is to pay for bandwidth. What a load of utter bs. They make shedloads of cash off the back of unsuspecting mugs^H^H^H^Hcustomers which should more than pay the bandwidth costs, unless they're shifting something along the lines of 20Tb a month, which is a helluva lot of shifting...

TSR even deign to pay certain 'featured artists' retainers, which galls me even more. How mercenary can some people be, when they're prostituting their hobby for a quick buck? Do it for the love of the game, or get the hell out of the business. You think I'm making any money out of hosting mods? Damn, the ad revenue doesn't even come close...

It makes my blood boil, I tell ya  Tongue

Regards,
Pauly
:spanish:
6  Simmers' Paradise / General Sims 2 Discussion / Advocating Free Content on: May 12, 2005, 07:19:01 am
Tell you what... if someone came to my free hosting site and forums and started advertising pay content, their feet wouldn't touch the ground after I hit the 'IP Ban' button  :lol:

Regards,
Pauly
Keeping It Free
7  Simmers' Paradise / General Sims 2 Discussion / Advocating Free Content on: May 12, 2005, 04:56:12 am
Quoted from a certain other place...

Paysites have thier place in the community right now - they have done for years.

The last little droplets of respect I had for the author of this particular piece of nonsense have finally evaporated. In no other moddable gaming community that I am aware of is content available on a 'pay-to-download' basis (although a certain Morrowind site has recently introduced a 'beg-to-run-it' ideaology, which kind of makes me want to find a bucket).

People should run hosting sites because they enjoy it, not to make money off the back of it. I'm disgusted that EA/Maxis continue to allow this practice. Any other decent community would have shot sites such as TSR down in flames long ago.

Regards,
Pauly
Flying the Flag for Free Content
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