as far as i can see, when i installed m&g it updated my apartment life ep, so everything is patched as of right now. {i THINK}
but i don't think the patch would work because it's something in my downloads folder that's causing the shower problem. i'm still trying to find what it is. the game behaves normally without the downloads folder. ugh. thanks for helping, though. i only need to find something like an outdated mod that's screwing the game up. and i really need help doing that.
i appreciate the patch advice, though.

unfortunately, that can't be the problem either because i don't have that in my downloads. i checked to be sure.

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,7462.0.html

that is cboys hack.

if you're saying time passage would not work while away to a community lot, you're wrong because sims could just be doing nothing at home, yet time could appear to have passed.
there's no rocket science behind something that should be really simple.

when i look at the texture errors, all that comes up is an absolutely blank notepad.
i hate how this is just like a huge mystery. i just wish i could find what was causing the problem. i can't play the sims 2 properly.
and i double, and even triple checked to make sure i did not have two sets of default replacement skins. i remember skins i've downloaded before and so i'm always absolutely sure i don't have two at the same time.

ugh, me too.  i'm sure i'll feel stupid as soon as i find out what it is.

i've searched my downloads folder. i don't have anything that would conflict with that. plus, i don't even have it anymore. i said i deleted it.

the shower is the cheap maxis shower. i'll try selling it but i doubt anything will change.


edit: i sold the shower, and when i went to go buy it again there was this star over it




but the same problem happened when i bought a different shower, too.




as for shower hacks/mods, i tried installing this
http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=277398
but my sims started disappearing so i deleted it. i didn't install into my downloads folder. i installed it into the correct place. those files are no where to be found as far as i can see, now though. but do you think it could somehow have anything to do with it?

with my downloads folder out my sims do not disappear. i'll remove the skintones and see if it really is them. i would never guess that it would be my default skintones, but i'll check it. thanks.

edit: the skintones aren't the problem. i removed them and the shower thing was still happening. i'm going to test more.

i don't think it's the skintone. my sims aren't just floating heads. they'd disappear COMPLETELY, head, body, and all. i think they'd disappear from the shower. if i'm playing a single sim [like don lothario] and made him take a shower live mode would become disabled because the sim is gone. i'm using default replacement skintones, but i've used them before and had no problems. i don't think they're the cause of anything. they're just some louis/simcribbling skins.

gah. or so i thought i did. my sims are still disappearing in the shower. i have no more hack conflicts. i'm sure it's just one file i need to look for. but i have absolutely no idea which file, or which 2 or 3 files would cause my sim to disappear completely in the shower.
  this is starting to piss me off. i even had a mental relapse and started playing the sims 3. atleast sims in there don't disappear. thank you for your help anyways, though.

omg! thank you for recommending delphys download organizer. i used it and found out i had about 3 or 4 SIMS 3 HACKS installed in my sims 2 folder! i'd crash if i were my game, too. jeez.
i deleted those files. thanks, all of you helped in a way. i appreciate it.

yeah. another weird thing is my game is still crashing without any conflicts in my downloads folder. i can't imagine why. i'm going to take another look at my hacks again. i'll update you on anything i find.

i'd scream at the person playing me and try my best to annoy the hell out of them, lol.
just for fun, of course. like what my sims do to me.
then, i think i'd woohoo with everybody in the neighborhood, have maybe one kid, and die.
i'd leave myself in the pool until my energy was drained, or something.
or i'd let the player kill me. either way.

okay, i'm starting to have the same problem with the shower. when my sim got in, they disappeared completely.
that's the problem i've had since i removed the possible conflicts. according to the hack detector i have '26 conflicts' but they are all the inteen conflicting with itself.
i don't know what to do for the shower problem. besides removing the downloads again and seeing if the shower still messes up.
i think i'll try that. i'll report back later.


edit: okay, there's definitely something up with my downloads.
does anybody know which hack could possibly cause sims to disappear in the shower???

actually, i do have all ep's. the lot could be any lot, there are just random crashes. i do have clean installer. but the lots don't crash the first time i load them up. i can load them up just fine sometimes, but other times it will just crash. the sim arriving crash only happened once so far. the other times it crashes it's when i'm loading a family, or just a community lot [to build, etc].


i've removed my downloads folder and play tested the game, and i didn't have any crashes.
i had a lot of hack conflicts though. could the conflicts cause the game to crash? the hack conflict detector found atleast 60 conflicts. i deleted the conflicting files, besides the 'inteenimator conflicting with it's own flavor pack' files.
and i'm hoping i'll have no more crashing.