What she said.

I am surprised the game allowed her to move out without her children!  Did you have the butler selectable at the time so he looked like he lived there or something?

Though, being without Walt may not have been the most important issue for the majority of normal members.  For many of them, being without Pescado may have felt the more important. 

I think we can get the best of both worlds by trying as far as possible not to ram an annexation to PMBD and MATY down their throats.   

Pescado is quite capable, of being technical admin to, and owner of, the site without necessarily having a load of lolcatting and stompinating everywhere to make him feel at home.  It's not actually him doing the cutlass waving.  It's one or two(?) other people who I would have thought might have made their first concern their ordinary longtime users that they are meant to be making feel at home at the new location.  Not to point any fingers directly, you understand

What have the amount of PMs per box got to do with security exploits?  You could allow just one PM in one box and it could be the one that has the problem.  Sorry, but I am calling waffle on this

However, this wasn't my point; my original point is now largely satisfied.

All I was trying to say is that staff and president alike should remember *who* they saved this forum for, and it wasn't for people who already have their primary online home at MATY or PMBD.

I think most of us would like to have a go at modding if it is possible, but as yet we don't know for sure the resources are going to be external to the compiled program, and in a readable format.

Ali, I don't think you have been reading my posts in detail.  I haven't called the site "phail", I was talking about one stated aim of the operation.  I have also addressed the issue of your understandable gratitude to Pescado and how that, as well as his very kind continued help, doesn't require PMBD or MATY influences, or Presidential stamps to be in evidence as soon as one connects to the site.  Pescado himself does seem to understand what I was saying.

I mean, just look at the newsbox:


We have El Presidente in line one, and typical MATY lolcatspeak in line 2, neither of which featured in the old insim.net

This is not going to have the majority of old users feeling "oh good I am home again!".  The site was meant to have been saved for the old members, not for the glory of the revolutionaries!

Pescado, I *know* you didn't instruct them to write that, or to keep that there.  I am just saying maybe the staff should consider thanking you warmly and sincerely in private messages or chat rather than by flying your flag all over the site!

It's not so much the mailbox limits, which you have devised due to experience of running forums.  (although I do not accept that 6 year age intervals have any efficiency merit at all - that is purely a Pescadoism)

The issue for me is the discrepancy between expressed intention and outcome.  For many people, your apparent promise of not imposing a Pescado influence on the site was decisive in whether they would support you or Delphy.  And yes, if that's being a troublemaker, then that's what I am.  I am not the only person who is disappointed in you not keeping your word, but I tend to be the one who sticks my neck out furthest.

I am saying this because I am thinking of the people, "lambs" if you like, who latched onto Insimenator.net because they were intimidated by both you and Delphy in different ways and it was a real alternative, where you didn't have any power over them or the staff.  Kathy and Eric may be disgraced scammers, but they produced a forum that was running just like hundreds of people liked it and there was no reason the ambience and visible leadership needed to change so drastically while it was being tidied up.
 

Paden, why are you making a comparison with PMBD?  WTH does this site have to do with PMBD?   So now we have the rule of 6 in age like MATY, and the rule of 10 in PMs like PMBD.  And I am supposed to go on believing the plan is to NOT run it like another Pescado site?

It's not a problem for me personally, as I am not historically a frequent user of this site, or the site whose data it sprang from.  And I have certainly learnt to cope on other Pescado sites anyway.  But if the idea was to keep the old ambience and style so as to fool the old users (some of whom were here because they were deliberately trying to stay away from either MATY or MTS2) into thinking they were still at home on the new site, it's a bit PHAIL.

Surely you could do that the other way round, save your important project-related PMs to flatfile on your own disk?

Pros and cons:
IS might have several thousand members.  Many or most of these might have 10 useless old PMs stored up, as opposed to the 10 or so users who might have an important project-related PM.  Many or most of the users with 10 useless old stored PMs will not have logged on in months.  Why leave 10,000 useless old PMs lying around when you could turn that number to 0 instantly?

The person who is receiving important project-related PMs may have more than 10 of those important PMs sent to him/her during their sleep hours.   The 11th and 12th will never be received.  Isn't this worse than the project-modder having to save his PMs to disk before they become old enough to purge?

Could some regular admin-led purging of old PMs be done, rather than limit new ones to quite such a low allowance?  I can't remember seeing the option natively in SMF, but maybe there is a mod for it?

Also consider vaping old chatter and game threads - anything that really isn't of interest once the time is passed.

How long before the site gets its own server and can go back to being like it was meant to be?  Are we having a donation drive or what?

Nevertheless, it's not everyone else's responsibility to scurry around for alternative links just because one site doesn't like links to PMBD.   If players want to get links to PMBD freely, they should take care to also join forums that allow them, not just stay stuck in the ones that don't.

There's nothing more for Squinge to do, as long as people get my new one and load it last.  I have checked all the other possibilities for bad co-existence between these two hacks, and that addresses everything.

Your demand is my command - added to first post