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Question: Does Apartment Life's Witch feature equal Satanism?
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Sam the T-man
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« Reply #150 on: September 02, 2008, 01:47:01 pm »

@Tenshii - I know about that commandment, but does that necessarily equate religions like Buddhism with devil worship? My knowledge of such a thing involves knowingly worshipping the devil, which I don't see in Buddhism, for instance.

Mind you, if I'm honest, ten commandments aside, the Old Testament raises a lot of questions that are best saved for the right people, not here.
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« Reply #151 on: September 02, 2008, 03:11:21 pm »

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...his "rubbish" thoughts...


This I take exception to!  Just who the f*** are you to say that one's persons thoughts, beliefs, or whatever are "rubbish"?  Just because they don't happen to coincide with your beliefs?  

Ignorance, or the lack of knowledge, and stubborness in refusing to listen and try to understand others viewpoints may have started this whole debate, but what a person believes in and their conviction to that belief is by no means rubbish.  I don't care what a persons religion is on this point.
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« Reply #152 on: September 02, 2008, 03:21:49 pm »

Please calm down, ok? I've been very happy with the way everyone has been keeping this a friendly discussion. Don't turn it into a war now.
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« Reply #153 on: September 02, 2008, 03:33:28 pm »

Tell me to calm down, but allow someone who made an inflammatory post to go without warning?  

Does this mean that it's okay to just belittle other peoples beliefs if they don't agree with you?  Isn't that in part what this thread is about?
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« Reply #154 on: September 02, 2008, 03:34:45 pm »

Thank you, Joy. Regardless of your religious beliefs, this thread is first and foremost trying to discuss religious tolerance. Everyone has their right to believe (or not believe) what they want without misinformation and insults being tossed about. There will be no flaming just because your beliefs are different. I believe that's what started this in the first place, intentional or not.

I have really enjoyed reading everyone's point of view on this. Regardless of the side you came in on, I want to thank you for being civil and sharing your views. I've learned a lot over the past few days and for this I am thankful that the thread was allowed to thrive. I am hoping the information given will give people a new understanding about other religions and perhaps open some minds. We're a site filled with many walks of life and it's one of my favorite things about InSIM. Through this site I have met so many wonderful people. And now I am learning and growing more as a person. Let's keep that in mind before clicking the Reply button.

ancienthighway: I believe her response was in general and not aimed at any one person, just as mine is.
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« Reply #155 on: September 02, 2008, 03:50:03 pm »

Yes, ancienthighway, it was in general, as I've noticed more than one person has started to get rather hot under the collar.

First and foremost we all should remember that, even though we speak English in this forum, it's not everyone's first language, and often we'll read things that can be construed as an insult but wasn't intended as such. I know I've been guilty of that myself. We're talking about a subject that's very personal to everyone, and we all beleive we are in the right. It's potentially inflammatory and ripe for debate, but, for the most part it's been a friendly conversation about differing viewpoints. I'm proud of us all for proving we don't have to agree to see eye to eye.
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« Reply #156 on: September 02, 2008, 06:20:17 pm »

*head desk*
This all started over posting of pictures or downloads that may cross the line/push the limit for what she wants at the site....and snowballed out of control at warp speed. It wasn't about anyone being unwelcome, just inapproprieate content. No kidding. Nuff said on that from me.

As far as the question that is the topic of this thread, I am Catholic and didn't think much of about the witches in the game. I felt no different about the witches than I do the vamps and zombies. Now that this question has been put out there, I have thought about it more. Christian belief, as many have stated, is that things of an occult nature makes many uncomfortable.

As far as Sim~Antics policy, it is fair enough to accept that content of the uploads or pictures above pg13 are not considered appropriate. As it being Christian based, things of an occult nature would follow suit, as an inverted cross, would perhaps be offensive to some members and the site owner. Other than that, the members carry on as they do here. Play the game, share with friends and have fun.

As many know, I am active here as well as at Sim~Antics and GoS. For those that feel uncomfortable, as far as what others think of them because of where they post, I feel I must say this. I have never been treated any different because of where I choose to post and get my shiny stuff nor who I am friends with. Not by DL, Kathy, Nymphy, Nouk nor any of the members of these sites. I am treated based on how I carry myself and interact on the boards. Period.
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« Reply #157 on: September 02, 2008, 06:25:43 pm »

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@ GAMBLER, pinkshoe, et al

I saw her behavior both here & at the adult site, where it was usually one of her posts showing up first to drool & comment over the latest pixelated penis that showed up for download. We that were here and were part & parcel to her hypocrisy really expect no less from her at her own site.


ROFL I guess Christians aren't allowed to like sex?  Just because she was a member at an adult forum doesn't make her any less a Christian.  Her friends KNOW she  spoke out against the porn that was being posted there.  

Wasn't the 'adult' site just a sim site for adult sim material at first?  Now it's just porn.

I've seen several posts that mock her for having been a member at the adult site.  So?  Christians have 'woohoo' too.  Where do you think more Christians come from?

SHC, your post is the most informative, non-invasive and easily read post in this entire thread.  Being from South Texas I am familiar with your description of her Christian beliefs and it sounded appropriate, so I asked her.

She said yes about the witchcraft thing.  I didn't ask about Buddism or anything.  She also said that witches from the game will be okay and so will recolored stuff and whatnot, just not satanic stuff posted on her site.  It looks like she has been somewhat misunderstood on what is allowed there.

I agree she could have worded the email differently to avoid offending some people, but she didn't.  How long does a person have to pay?

Bottom line is that tolerance goes both ways.
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« Reply #158 on: September 02, 2008, 06:26:22 pm »

Well I think she is a bit one sided and there a lot of us Real Witches out here, Yes I am Wiccan, however, this is only a game and I suppose she bans Halloween to since that allows children to dress up like witches and demons Tongue  She needs to get her facts straight since being a witch has nothing to do with Satan or evil.......

I would like to add why did she not post about vampires, zombies or werewolves?  By her words they would also be lumped in with the witches.
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« Reply #159 on: September 02, 2008, 06:32:54 pm »

I guess you will never know how she really feels since she is banned from here and cannot defend herself.  I haven't seen any threads like this at her site either.  There are no threads where people talk down to each other, it's pretty much just a nice social atmosphere.  Maybe if you are a Wiccan or whatever you could go there and ask if you're welcome without starting some kind of fight or public issue then you would know.  All I know is she told me that 'everyone was welcome, but satanic stuff was not'.
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« Reply #160 on: September 02, 2008, 07:25:59 pm »

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Hi gang,
I am a member over at Sim Antics(drpf)
Zep is right that there is a few creators who have blacklisted anyone from the DlM forum.
My own experience is I did try to give the creator there wish yet I was still put out to dry and very publicly humiliated over the fact that I posted something on her site over there own issue with Muslow that had nothing to do with me so much for tolerance and compromise lol
My experience with Dl has been someone who has nurtured her creators, has been kind and supportive towards myself and others she doesn't put up with rudeness or anyone criticizing her members or there creations(if you saw the hair I created for one of my sims you know she was protecting me from the assault of wth is that?)
It's sad that everyone involved had such a strong reaction when there really is no way to resolve the issue since everyone believes there right it just has lead to a  big fall out from it
I won't speak badly of Dl or her religious beliefs
It is her forum if she compromised her beliefs then that forum wouldn't be fun for her.It's her faith and she isn't going to back down from her faith even if she is ridiculed or loses some of her friends over it
I wish there was more understanding and tolerance for all involved which I seriously doubt will happen.This is just a game but there is so much disagreement over everything rather you share a file or share a belief its a constant battleground that it really doesn't seem worth being part of the community


Hi drpf - very well said. (I was not aware about the blacklisted comment or what you went through.  Again, I have not experienced this myself.)
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« Reply #161 on: September 02, 2008, 07:29:38 pm »

Hi trl and drpf!!
I'm so happy to see how so many of you are taking the time to be informative of how you believe and the paths you have chosen as far as your personal Faith. It is unfortunate that so many are not reading anything but the first few posts and perhaps a few at the end and then going on about DL's choices.
 We know. We get it. She f**ked up her terminology, who around here hasn't since we all speak english differently.
She used her technology at hand to make a stand with an email, we all use this internet differently...
Can we finally close this and open a fresh discussion about faith and the way we play? DL has been a friend for quite a while and its not fair to make fun of her as an opening line.
 Momma would tell me not to make fun of the stupid people and I'd say I'm not making fun of them... I'm just pointing out they are stupid!
I haven't checked to see if I'm banned at DL's site and I havent talked to her about this, but my game has not accepted jesus christ as its personal savior nor does it dance skyclad or invoke the goddess.
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« Reply #162 on: September 02, 2008, 07:39:18 pm »

Zephy I will do that as soon as I figure out what to write.. blonde moment.
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« Reply #163 on: September 02, 2008, 07:45:33 pm »

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I guess you will never know how she really feels since she is banned from here and cannot defend herself.  I haven't seen any threads like this at her site either.  There are no threads where people talk down to each other, it's pretty much just a nice social atmosphere.  Maybe if you are a Wiccan or whatever you could go there and ask if you're welcome without starting some kind of fight or public issue then you would know.  All I know is she told me that 'everyone was welcome, but satanic stuff was not'.


And that is the sticking point. Wiccan stuff would be unwelcome because it has been declared Satanic. So, how do you reconcile that view? This is why people are upset. This is why the re-education attempt that ended badly with hurt feelings all around. Everyone is NOT welcome under those conditions.

As for defending herself... she did. Our opinions and conversations here have no meaning to or for her. She chose her course of action. Rather publicly, I might add. I refuse to be chastised for discussing that behavior and its possible causes. It goes both ways. Someone expressed that they would have apologized for rudeness, but will not have that chance because they are now banned from there. Everything has been fair, regardless of how things are expressed here.

People tend to give what they get. I have seen plenty of talking down coming from your posts. Let us not forget 'petty' being tossed around by you. Sadly, with this kind of topic and the deep emotions attached to it, people will get rather rigid in manner and language. It is the nature of it and simple enough to counter. Don't participate.

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« Reply #164 on: September 02, 2008, 07:59:18 pm »

Quote from: zaleth;1363299
Well I think she is a bit one sided and there a lot of us Real Witches out here, Yes I am Wiccan, however, this is only a game and I suppose she bans Halloween to since that allows children to dress up like witches and demons Tongue  She needs to get her facts straight since being a witch has nothing to do with Satan or evil.......

I would like to add why did she not post about vampires, zombies or werewolves?  By her words they would also be lumped in with the witches.


I have a friend who claims to be a Wiccan, is it true that Wiccans worship the earth?

And if you can make magic, can you make me rich (lots of money,not a person named rich) Or like have Halle Berry as my girlfriend. PLEASE!!!! LOL

I've bitten a lot of people I'm not evil. Oh wait, Evil Rat thing. Sorry

I kinda thought of joining that religion where you get all those virgins when you die, Oh wait, what if their all men............Nevermind
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