So disappointed in the lack of evil available

[Blackat]

An adult expansion pack would be cool.. not just for S3 but for S2 -since I'm not sure if or when I'll get S3- since you would have the choice of getting it or not.
I'm not so sure I would want a maniacal Sim running around killing off my other Sims though.
I am not above killing off a Sim. I have hacks with which I can do just that when ever I want.
That is the point though. Its when I want it to happen not when the game decides.

I also think that if killing characters off is what you want to do then there are plenty of games that let you do that right from the start. The Sims was never supposed to be that kind of game.

As for the game running all the time in the background, well that just sounds like a nightmare to me. If the Sims in S3 aren't any smarter then the Sims from S1 & S2 then all too often you'd open up the game to find the everyone dead or living in a home with nothing left because the repo man came calling since they don't pay bills unless you tell them to.

I remember leaving a S1 game running overnight without meaning to and waking up to a an dead family. Seems there was a cooking fire and they didn't have a smoke detector. No one called the fire department and since Sims run towards a fire instead of away from it -although in Apartment life I think Sims in apartments do leave the building- the whole family and the kitchen went up in smoke. There was nothing but little piles of ashes all over.

[Katarama]

About the lack of true evil in the game. Trust me, I am just as disappointed as you are. Stealing candy from babies? Thats lame, seriously. I have long wanted a mature (adult) version of Sims 2 and would love to have one for Sims 3. But I am not sitting here thinking they will actually ever do this. They have it stuck in their craw that their games are best suited sales wise to be rated "T".

[pennyhugo]

did you all know that the Sims 2 Garden and Mansion Stuff Pack is rated M?

Also, I've wished that whenever a Sim dies, there'll be an ambulance to take the dead body. Not leaving tombstones around the lot. I hated it when that happens...

[CynicalSim]

The fact is, those who feel like you all do are in the minority.  If EA is smart, they will stick to what the majority wants.  After all, it is their livelihood.  Why can't one of you come up with a realistic, real life simulation game with all the horrors you can want?  As a side not, I like Sims the way it is.

And contrary to what some think, (this may be shocking) kids/teens are not all inundated with murder and mayhem at a young age.  I've known thousands who haven't been.

[pennyhugo]

The fact is, those who feel like you all do are in the minority.  If EA is smart, they will stick to what the majority wants.  After all, it is their livelihood.  Why can't one of you come up with a realistic, real life simulation game with all the horrors you can want?  As a side not, I like Sims the way it is.

And contrary to what some think, (this may be shocking) kids/teens are not all inundated with murder and mayhem at a young age.  I've known thousands who haven't been.

Sorry dear,  I think we were just sharing what we thought would also be good in the game. Showing our love to the Sims 2... and so maybe people from EA will visit InSim and can get ideas from it, right?
Thanks and take care!  xoxoxox

I love the Sims 2 and patiently waiting for the Sims 3 hehehe...

[simpleprincess]

The fact is, those who feel like you all do are in the minority.  If EA is smart, they will stick to what the majority wants.  After all, it is their livelihood.  Why can't one of you come up with a realistic, real life simulation game with all the horrors you can want?  As a side not, I like Sims the way it is.

And contrary to what some think, (this may be shocking) kids/teens are not all inundated with murder and mayhem at a young age.  I've known thousands who haven't been.

 Im sorry you dont like our OPINIONS thats all they were. It just sounds like you are telling people off for what they would like in the game, were not saying EA has to do it geez.

[cantresist17]

ahahaha an expansion pack?  ADULT expansion pack?  Well-there's not much stopping anyone from getting a hold of it (plus think of the economy-how many people would be really interested.)

But that aside-what would they call and Adult Expansion Pack?  The Sims 2; Homicidal Acres?  Guns & Blood.  Oh and a stuff pack-the Sims 2; Porn Starz!

My problem with such things is that if there was murder-ranging from sim 2 comical animations to somewhat repulsive-there is going to be someone who's going to mess it up.  Like persecute religions.

I know I'm being highly critical-but in the end whatever floats your boat right?  I just got really creative.  ONE MORE; Sims 2: Operation Iraq.

I would like some disasters though (I thought of tearing up my neighborhood and make it into a war zone.)

Finally-in the University Expansion pack you could kill someone with the cow plant thing.

[StupidFriday]

ahahaha an expansion pack?  ADULT expansion pack?  Well-there's not much stopping anyone from getting a hold of it (plus think of the economy-how many people would be really interested.)

But that aside-what would they call and Adult Expansion Pack?  The Sims 2; Homicidal Acres?  Guns & Blood.  Oh and a stuff pack-the Sims 2; Porn Starz!

My problem with such things is that if there was murder-ranging from sim 2 comical animations to somewhat repulsive-there is going to be someone who's going to mess it up.  Like persecute religions.

I know I'm being highly critical-but in the end whatever floats your boat right?  I just got really creative.  ONE MORE; Sims 2: Operation Iraq.

I would like some disasters though (I thought of tearing up my neighborhood and make it into a war zone.)

Finally-in the University Expansion pack you could kill someone with the cow plant thing.

I swear that post was just to showcase your "hilarious" game names. I'm just pullin yer leg. I see where you are coming from but hey I dont see anything wrong with just disscussing ideas here, even if there is little chance of it actually happening. I mean HEY its nice to dream and its nice to hear what other members would want from the game. I dont see the harm in that.

[DaSpecial1]

MTS2 does offer such careers as hitman & villian.  It's a start for those of you looking for more.  I wouldn't mind a little villany in my game if only to show that crime doesn't pay- which it seems to in real life.   I don't go for blood and gore but being able to truly add a Doctor like House in my game or a callous banker, or a spy or hitman with fears of being caught (or even fear of falling in love and softening up/losing their edge) would be hysterically funny to me.

Just imagine the hitman that falls for the wrong (right?) woman and knows he has to go straight to keep her... or the spy who blows his cover because he's so inept.  I think I agree with some here on that type of idea.

However like imdvine I have family that has suffered in war and others that have to face long grueling sickness & death.  I wouldn't want to see the sims become bloodsport or depressing...but if it is handled lightly like with the satellite etc., it could be a fun twist.  So for ex. I would be interested in a sim detective connecting a crime to a real local villan or taking down one of my successfull Mafioso-types (that has slipped up).


Just an opinion.

[kaoz666]

As far as my opinion in the great Sims debate, and I want to re-state that is this is my OPINION, I think EAxis are fully and well aware what the core fanbase of the series is. The people who have played it from the 1st game, which came out in what?...2000? And here we are in 2009. 9 years is a LONG time, and naturally, the people who are loyalest to the series have aged. I was 20 when I first played TS1, and I'm soon going to be 30 this year. Needless to say, I'm not a kid. And neither is a VAST many of us here. So why on Earth would they spend so much time developing a rated T game knowing full well 70% of the players of the game are NOT teens? (What Teen these days do YOU know has the patience to actually put the work in needed to really get into The Sims when they have Halo or GTA4?) Speak of the devil, I already gave it away. But for those who are avid gamers like me, I need to only say two words...

Hot Coffee.

To those who don't know, it was a mod for the PC version of GTA:San Andreas made with code that ALREADY existed in the game. It allowed for some well, "interesting" encounters with female characters on the game, and Rockstar Games caught a firestorm of crap from the moralists, family groups and right wingers for it. So much so that major retail chains started pulling the game off the shelves. So Rockstar went back, fixed the code and redistributed the game. But they still suffered loses in the Millions, and they've been under the microscope ever since. But Rockstar is a publisher that's built on taking risks. (Don't think so? Google Manhant. That's all you need to see.) EA isn't. They're one of the "Big Boys". So they're stuff is at the top of the pile. While they do make violent games, they don't cross into that uber violent gray area some publishers do. And as far as "Mature" themed content, forget about it. EA won't even go near it. Any really racey content in a game will IMMEDIATELY get the dreaded AO (Adult Only) rated from the ESRB, and most national chains and outlets do not carry AO games, which is why the games that do cross into that area like 3D Sexvilla and the Sexy Beach series are sold either online through the company itself, or aren't available in the US at all. EA isn't going to take that risk because the only line that matters to them is the bottom one. So they'll give us a tame, cute, whimsical game out of the box. And the hardcore modders will crack the code, and transform it into what basically came from TS2 content. It's a "Here's The Sims 3, and a few tools you can use to help make it more yours" scenario. Now what the skinners, meshers and modders do to the game AFTER the fact isn't EA's problem, all they did was distribute it to the public. What WE do to the game is a whole other story. And in time, we'll kick it's ass just like we did TS2, and have Sex, Violence, drugs, and other such things that make the game so gosh darn fun to play. Of course much like TS2, don't expect to see any major CC in year one. Clothes, yes. But new Body Meshes will take some time, especially since as was mentioned earlier in this thread some of the more prominent meshers have retired. But I'm sure others will carry the torch, I might even take a stab at it myself seeing as I'm learning on the fly still. But that's enough of my rant.

[persilwasmiddel]

no worries, I'm sure someone will make a hack for it. and i hope new skins too.. the sims 3 neighborhood looks great but the sims looks bloated.. horrible skins.

[cantresist17]

ahahaha an expansion pack?  ADULT expansion pack?  Well-there's not much stopping anyone from getting a hold of it (plus think of the economy-how many people would be really interested.)

But that aside-what would they call and Adult Expansion Pack?  The Sims 2; Homicidal Acres?  Guns & Blood.  Oh and a stuff pack-the Sims 2; Porn Starz!

My problem with such things is that if there was murder-ranging from sim 2 comical animations to somewhat repulsive-there is going to be someone who's going to mess it up.  Like persecute religions.

I know I'm being highly critical-but in the end whatever floats your boat right?  I just got really creative.  ONE MORE; Sims 2: Operation Iraq.

I would like some disasters though (I thought of tearing up my neighborhood and make it into a war zone.)

Finally-in the University Expansion pack you could kill someone with the cow plant thing.

I swear that post was just to showcase your "hilarious" game names. I'm just pullin yer leg. I see where you are coming from but hey I dont see anything wrong with just disscussing ideas here, even if there is little chance of it actually happening. I mean HEY its nice to dream and its nice to hear what other members would want from the game. I dont see the harm in that.

Yeah-that's true.  I don't know what I want though, so I guess I wouldn't understand.  But as long as you're not a horrible person-or demented-then I don't see any harm on making something specifically aimed and distributed to the right crowd.

[DaSpecial1]

I'm sure that gruesomely sad enough to say,  people who truly go for gorey bloody things already have their favorite web sites/hangouts and sims just wouldn't quench that desire.   If you're horribly demented I don't see the sims as filling your need to destroy anyhow, so I agree with you can'tresist.

I also believe you are right koaz~ no way EA doesn't know who it's core fanbase is...and I would hazard to guess that the fan base of over 30's is growing not just from aging regulars, but also from successful, work from home, or retired folks, with a spare moment or two on their hands.  That the game can be tailored (thanks too the meshers and modders over the years) is the secret to it's longevity.   You can enjoy what you want from the privacy of your own home without someone else deciding for you that it's morally wrong.

Ea knows that those who want more adult themes in the games aren't in the minority--but are the overwhelming silent majority whose creations /modifications have and will keep this game in play; and they were smart enough to leave the legal blame button stuck on "don't blame us we didn't sell it that way".   

Either way I'm glad for it.   While I might never want to see a strip club open across from an elementary school in RL, or deal with corpses that would make forensic scientist puke, I'm a full-grown adult with a set of ideal and morals like anyone else.  As such, I like that (w/modifications) this game allows me to be as (and might I add privately & without any harm to others) adultly adventuristic as I want--without someone else's permission or approval.

More realistic, adventurous and even dastardly deeds in-game?   I say bring them on. After all, with all due respect, those who don't want the mods can always choose not to download them. 

Parent players out there at least know what to look for before the kids find it.

[sannysims40]

Hello again all.  I had to respond to this topic.  I agree with everyones points of view, for or against adult content.  If I knew how to mod and was computer literate I would make my own adult version.  Anyways, I depend heavily on modders to enrich my sims 2 game and look forward to see what you talented modders to mod for the sims 3.  If I ever do learn how to mod or make such content it is SO going to be free and I will make sure eveyone is 21 yrs of age or older.  I'm not into blood and gore but we should be able to decide how dark our sims should be just so long as it is not sick or crossing certain lines.  Many, many thanks all.