What makes Sims reject hugs?
melscape:
I did wonder if I had possibly dropped their relationship points too low. Like that once it was in the negatives then the game would be happy for them to accept almost any interaction that would help bring it back up, as if thinking of hug like apologize or something.
Does all that attraction etc. play into adult/child relationships? One of my hug rejecting Sims is supposed to be a child rejecting the (friendly) hug of adult unrelated sim of her household? And I also wanted it for a mother/teen, interaction as well. Though I thought it possible I would just have to create a 'stranger' mom double to use. I don't know if children have any of the romance/relationship preferences, and I didn't think they'd be exactly active within the family, but I really know very little about any of the deep mysteries of Sim coding :lol: The most I've ever done is turn on the simDNA.
Thanks for all the thoughts everyone. If I get debug social on, will I be able to choose to make them decline hugs?
BeosBoxBoy:
As regards child-adult interactions: The game has some built-in inhibitions, there is an uncertain and unevenly applied enforcement of "don't talk to strangers" sort of thing in the game.
There are lots of things child Sims aren't allowed to do if the family relationship isn't present. I avoid children in my game as much as possible since the way the game makes them hyper drives me nuts, so my experience and experimentation has been of very limited scope.
We must consider the people at EA that made this game. Certainly they didn't want to make a game that would land them in a hot bed of legal entanglements, so it follows that they would have placed clear restrictions on the manner in which todlers, children, and teens interact with non-family adults and elders. This -- aside from the legal dimension -- is just common sense and common decency.
SO in my very non-authorative view, the presence or absence of the family relationship is the governing factor for most interactions by and involving toddlers & children. This rule may be relaxed somewhat when the interactions of the child are with other non-family children; but to what degree I can only guess.
To the best of my knowledge, the gender and gender bias of Sims doesn't register any effect until the teen life-stage; so it follows that other atractors like hair colour, star-sign, and aspiration may also play no role for toddlers and children. It is dificult to make any kind of statement here that isn't grossly speculative, since I really do avoid the little hyper-monkeys.
melscape:
I've come to the conclusion that the game feels you know someone well enough to hate them, you know them well enough to hug them. However a relationship score of something like 4/5 or something makes your Sim feel they don't know someone well enough to hug them. That or it just made enemy Sims particularly open to mild interactions that would lead them to "making up". My dumb Sim kids will happily accept hugs from both their enemies or friends that are non-family adults :lol: But not from Sims they barely know.
Anyway, I knew there was a lot a Sim wouldn't do with a nonfamily adult, thankfully I body-shopped all my characters so I can create them again and again, related or unrelated to get all the interactions I need.
Ellen Prochaska:
Beosboy, this may be alittle off the subject. But from what I gather you have to alter a sim's gender preference in simpe?? I have been making alot of single sims in my game and their preference is zero/zero?? And it is rare, at least in my game for a sim to be attracted to someone of the same sex. So to have gay sims in my game I have to create them in cas as a spouse of someone of the same sex. So I guess what my question is, how do I change that?? Also from what I read up there, it is not possible for a sim to be bisexual??
BeosBoxBoy:
Ellen - to the best of my understanding the only time a Sim is "bisexual" is when both male and female gender bias rest at 0. But really, any sim will do just about anything you make them do; EA did give us almost god-like power of the little people. But again, let me stress, the ideas "gay", "straight", and "bisexual" really have no appropriate use in discussing The Sims 2. These are ideas that we project onto the game for our own emotional satisfaction, and have no relevance to the game. One may as well wonder if Sims have souls or if God hears their prayers.
With that warning in mind, I will proceed using these terms for the sake of convenience.
The game is designed in a very binary manner. Everything is yes or no. Let us assume we have a male sim and think like the game a moment. Is male preference higher than female: yes - to our minds: gay, no - to our minds: straight. If both are equal, then the answer is indeterminate, but not "bisexual". Sims will become gender biased based on how you choose to "play god" with their lives, most sims that I allowed to follow their own development in this matter never had much above a -15 to +15 point range; so this is arguably a condition of sexual ambiguity that may be "bisexual", but hardly worth the semantic arguments to prove one way or the other.
Sims are not little humans, any more than a bowl of plastic fruit is a bowl of fruit. So most of this thinking is misplaced at the best.
Further discussion on this matter would have to be on the adult forum.
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