Paysite Discussion Thread
djslippyman:
I do agree that any big site can't be expected to last unless they use advertising or get occasional donations from users. Even freesites with high volume can run up serious bills. If MTS2's downloads issues can be solved by asking for more financial help then I think they should make their situation more evident and should get the communal support that we all preach.
But donation packs which require payment and pay cc is the deal breaker for me. If Peggy went free and paid for her site off advertising or donations she'd be alright by me. "Free days" would be a step in the right decision but would ultimately be something that would rarely be implemented except for paysites on the fence on the issue.
kathy:
That is a problem in itself.. Communal Support. Now if lets say 5% of users who frequent a site would actually donate and help I think we would see more free sites, sadly this isn't the case. Hence the need for donation drives.
If lets say a site has 2 donation sets, reasonably priced or given to anyone who makes a donation, regardless of the amount, and has a fair amount of free content I would consider them a lesser problem than lets say Peggy, TSR, or Rose. While it would still be preferable if they were completely free it still wouldn't seem like they were strictly in it for the money.
While until a month or so ago I despised any and all paysites I have now said screw it all. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter to me unless I happen to be bored and want to play both sides of it just for giggles.
djslippyman:
I'd have to agree with you Kathy. I know PMBD would disagree on the donation pack for $$ but if its entirely a free site except for that (AND) the donation items are nice and moderately price I'd probably fold and think it was a decent idea to get something for that occasional $5-10. After all Holy Simoly has done something similar and its hard to argue that its a ripoff.
So Kathy you like to argue simply for amusement now? :smt116 LOL Shame on you!! :iconbigg:
By the way your avatar is hot, might as well tell you.:worship:
kathy:
hahaha I'm bored and Eric is dealing with the kids tonight
miros1:
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Alright that's two examples. I don't see any posts by you in this thread so again if you want to discuss paysites plz pull up a chair and speak. I'm curious as how it is from the other side. I can understand how before EA made a decision it was a different existence but I think things have changed where its hard to say "I didn't know it was wrong".
I haven't posted in this thread before because I'm in the group which is completely tired of attempting to teach pigs to sing and failing miserably. I know from experience in similar discussions, which are posted all over the web, including several egroups, that the number of people who can be convinced that the other side has any merits at all is vanishingly small, what we used to call "within epsilon of zero" in Advanced Calculus. Most of that small number are people new to downloading or creating, so I respond to their requests (most of them are actually nice enough to ask) for information with what is generally accepted practice and what will get them ripped a new one. I also tell people who are doing the equivalent of shrieking about their "legal rights" or "what they can do and no one can stop them" or whatever to shut up and get a life.
Your response where you still assume I did something wrong by being involved with a paysite indicates to me you're one of the unteachable.
Your previous post just annoyed me enough to answer. Believe me, I'm peeved enough to use some words that you may or may not deserve, but Kathy would be forced to ban me for using, and I respect her enough to obey her rules. Don't attempt to bait me. I've "met" far too many people similar to you.
My final position on the whole issue: Respect the creators' wishes. Don't post pay site items on free sites or free items on pay sites. No one has to justify their position to anyone, much less to each individual who wishes to criticize them.
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