Paysite Discussion Thread
kathy:
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Again you brought up that its a Teen game as it is. Should paysites be taking teenagers money (or their parents for that matter) if its not supposed to be legal? Is that fair to the kids?
Now this part of the arguement is the only one I have an opinion on anymore, especially since I am a mother of two children. It sucks for kids, there is no doubt about it. However, don't children have to learn you can't have everything in life just because you want it or believe you are entitled to it?
As a mother I have to deal with that arguement on an almost daily basis. Mom I want such and such... yeah well the answer is no... but wahhhh I want it and I should have it because I cleaned my room or didn't argue with my sister (insert other excuse here).
Kids have to learn they can't have everything just because they want it. If they don't learn this early on then we have an epidemic of spoiled little brats who are out of control... wait we already have this.
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Again I don't think a healthy discussion on the subject is a bad thing. It's certainly more interesting read then a 7 page thread on "What was your 1st EVER sim called?
I don't think the discussion is unhealthy per se but I'm bored and Eric won't argue with me.
PegasusDiana:
I don't think Kathy is angry at you, at least I don't get that impression. I just think she's getting tired of the whole argument on both sides. Both sides have done some very ugly things to each other. Which isn't going to solve anything. EA has said to several people they are gathering evidence, so we have to sit back and just let them do what it is they need to do. We also will have to respect their decision no matter which way it goes. People have made it into a my side must win thing like it's a game/competition. Everyone wants thier side to be right. When as Beos has stated over and over...the problem we are not seeing and he's not just saying it against free sites. His comments have been directed at both sides, is that we could all end up loosing in the long run...they could very well just say it's gone too far with the Sims 2 and package the Sims 3 in a way we can't add CC. That would stop both sides in their tracks.
djslippyman:
I agree with you Kathy in that people should make the final choice. If someone has seen all the discussion, heard all the arguments, and still wants to buy CC then let them. Its a foolish decision (especially if the same files are free on PMBD) but until the paysites themselves are a thing of the past then its going to still happen. It is harder for kids of course but you are right that its a prime example in that wanting and needing are two entirely different things.
I too am tired but thanks for talking about it Kathy :argue: Its much better then posting in a thread and never expecting to read it again or care about the responses.
djslippyman:
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I don't think Kathy is angry at you, at least I don't get that impression. I just think she's getting tired of the whole argument on both sides. Both sides have done some very ugly things to each other. Which isn't going to solve anything. EA has said to several people they are gathering evidence, so we have to sit back and just let them do what it is they need to do. We also will have to respect their decision no matter which way it goes. People have made it into a my side must win thing like it's a game/competition. Everyone wants thier side to be right. When as Beos has stated over and over...the problem we are not seeing and he's not just saying it against free sites. His comments have been directed at both sides, is that we could all end up loosing in the long run...they could very well just say it's gone too far with the Sims 2 and package the Sims 3 in a way we can't add CC. That would stop both sides in their tracks.
Ok thanks.:D I understand that argument that it may well affect Sims3. I personally would like the community to work it out internally before EA gets involved but as you say they will make the inevitable decision if they decide to take action and will make key decisions on CC as they develop and release Sims 3.
kathy:
I think there has been too much damage done in the community for us to work it out ourselves, one of the main reasons I have pulled away from the entire thing. I mean I look at Eric who has been working on the InSIM for 3 yrs this coming November and I hate the idea of all of his work going down the drain because of all the shit that has occurred the last 9 months.
Sites are expensive to run, especially large ones. And when you have to struggle to pay your server bills it is a bit discouraging. I think a step in helping the community is if sites such as Peggy were to offer free days. If her site costs are too much for her to handle on donations alone then I don't see why she couldn't say ok after I have made x amount to cover this months bill then the site is free for the rest of the month. It won't happen but it would be a start.
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