Paysite Discussion Thread
Tenshii~Akari:
A little off of the current subject, but I just couldn't help thinking this now: "Ah... the evil that money will bring."
Just look at how dysfunctional the community is over this whole issue of pay vs. free. All of the debates/arguments/etc. on who's right and who's wrong, who should be doing what, etc. just because of who's making content for the sake of money or not. I tell you, the green will bring out the worst in people sometimes... :?
This is why I'm happy with being broke and hating money. :angel:
(ETA: Man you people post fast! I had something else to say, but I'll wait a while. :lol:)
miros1:
Quote from: Inge Jones;845283
I am very concerned that we shouldn't get in their hair so much they close things up for Sims 3. It's so much fun being able to poke around in the files so freely. I know they might make tools themselves but looking at bodyshop and homecrafter they are not likely to be as flexible as something like SimPE.
I suspect they already have made that decision. So we'll all just keep playing Sims 2 until our CDs are too scratched to spin up in our drives.
Name one thing that comes out of BodyShop or HomeCrafter that's not improved by a quick trip through SimPE. Clothes have to be age adjusted or unisexed. Hair has to be binned. HomeCrafter doesn't allow multiple line descriptions (IIRC).
PegasusDiana:
Quote from: miros1;845311
I suspect they already have made that decision. So we'll all just keep playing Sims 2 until our CDs are too scratched to spin up in our drives.
Name one thing that comes out of BodyShop or HomeCrafter that's not improved by a quick trip through SimPE. Clothes have to be age adjusted or unisexed. Hair has to be binned. HomeCrafter doesn't allow multiple line descriptions (IIRC).
No now were still going to have Spore which is going to come with custom content creators because Maxis still holds rights over it. I think once it comes out I'll have to continue this fight over on their forums. lol I've been waiting forever for it to come out. In fact the only reason I purchased the Sims 2 which I swore I wasn't going too after Sims 1 was the release date on it was 2 years away. But I think your correct about Sims 3, I think EA is closing up shop as far as CC creation. I just read an article about how much money they've been loosing and that they are going to be downgrading. I knew that was coming when they brought back the former CEO. I think I said it in an earlier post he's the clean up guy.
Dr_Pixel:
Quote from: sakrayami;839654
I am a bit surprised that creators of skins and other CC support paysites when they create for free themself? Could anyone enlighten me?
I create free Sims2 content, but I am against the whole anti-paysite thing, so I wanted to answer this too.
As for the EULA and legal agruments, Kathy has already answered that much better than I could.
Anyway, I do NOT support paysites simply because I am not in favor of the anti-paysite stance. I personally don't look at them as anything more than simply a Sims2 site.
What I do support is respect for the content creators, no matter what site they create for, and no matter if I approve of how they choose to distribute their items. To me, the only right thing to do is to respect their wishes - if they say "do not put this on the Exchange", I won't. Likewise if they say "do not redistribute at all", "do not recolor", or even "you must subscribe to get this item", I will respect that as well.
The second thing I strongly support is the right of people to choose - I personally choose not to subscribe to Sims2 sites, nor pay a donation fee to get a donation item from a free site. But neither I, nor anybody else, has a right to make that descision for other people.
I can't honestly support these two principles, and also be anti-paysite.
kathy:
Quote from: Dr_Pixel;845528
What I do support is respect for the content creators, no matter what site they create for, and no matter if I approve of how they choose to distribute their items. To me, the only right thing to do is to respect their wishes - if they say "do not put this on the Exchange", I won't. Likewise if they say "do not redistribute at all", "do not recolor", or even "you must subscribe to get this item", I will respect that as well.
You bring up a wonderful point and I wish to make my post as clear as possible to help prevent any misquoting that is bound to come from it. While there is a lot of sharing of pay content going on they, the pirates, don't share free content as it is redundant if it is free elsewheres. Pescado and 98% of the others have stood by this since day one. However there are some, who have taken it to the next level and has the attitude screw it all I will do whatever I want with your work regardless of what your terms are, free or pay. One site owner in particular has been caught doing this time after time and, from my understanding (and yes I verified by checking) is doing it yet again with content from this site.
Sakrayami, to answer your question, that is one of the primary reasons why you see any free content creator defending paysites. Because it isn't stopping with just paysites, it is leaking in to the free content arena. Some people simply choose to disreguard anyones wishes and then has the audacity to ban them when they attempt to get their content removed from the site in question. Others simply don't see the point in continuing the fight as it has accomplished nothing thus far.
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