Paysite Discussion Thread
Inge Jones:
I think this says it all - written by Steve Bonham of TSR:
"On Friday 20th July 2007, I was once again invited back to Electronic Arts ..."
That was well after everyone started writing to them insisting they shut down paysites. If EA don't want to do it, is it our place to do their legal work for them?
My gesture towards free content is to make and share as much of it as I can. Why don't we concentrate on helping each other do that, and hope some of the recent ugliness is soon left behind?
kathy:
Quote from: Inge Jones;845248
I think this says it all - written by Steve Bonham of TSR:
"On Friday 20th July 2007, I was once again invited back to Electronic Arts ..."
That was well after everyone started writing to them insisting they shut down paysites. If EA don't want to do it, is it our place to do their legal work for them?
My gesture towards free content is to make and share as much of it as I can. Why don't we concentrate on helping each other do that, and hope some of the recent ugliness is soon left behind?
Thank god my voice of reason. I'll even grope your boobs rofl.
This is preciously my point boys and girls, if EA themselves doesn't give two shits about it and have been clearly blowing smoke up peoples arses, this is rather obvious by Steve's being invited back, why does everyone care so much to bitch about the legality when it is rather clear that EA themselves do NOT care. We can bitch and moan all we want how it isn't fair and how everything in life should be free but this is the real world and sadly this isn't the case.
If they ever come out and say anything it is going to be for paysites, not against them. They are linked to in the fansite listings, they are linked to all over the BBS, the linked to TSR's birthday for christ sakes. You have to be nuts to honestly believe that they had no clue.
miros1:
Quote from: SolidGoldFunk;845181
You have your opinion so let everyone else have theirs... there's no need for calling people's ideas silly and whatever else you can think of.
Thank you, SolidGoldFunk. This gentleman, and I use the term loosely, has his opinion and is not about to change it. Since his posts are basically demands that I change my stance, which will happen when EA gets a cease and desist order, he's on my ignore list.
Also cross reference my first two posts in this thread where I mentioned the futility of teaching pigs to sing and refered to to him as unteachable.
BTW, I just did a search on the Patent Office site... Neither EA nor Maxis has ever been awarded a patent on the DBPF format. Guess what? They don't "own" the package format! Without a patent, they cannot control who can or can't write programs to create and modify package files or what any programs do to those files.
Quote from: kathy;845262
Thank god my voice of reason. I'll even grope your boobs rofl.
Will you be selling videos of that occasion as part of the fund raiser?
atlbynghtst:
I am not sure what is going on behind the scenes with the Paysite issue, but i ahve noticed a lot of them now seem to have the same things...the exact same things with meshes made by someone claiming to be the original creator, and this creator is not the same one all the time...so yes the question might not be what the money from these things is supporting, more the question might be who is taking the meshes as their own.
Pirating movies and music seemed to be a big major thing not to long ago..i wold think this might become a major issue also. These creators work very hard to make things for those of us who are addicted to this game and the enhancements we get from downloading things for it, so I think it shouldnt matter what supports what..but who is stealing from it.
True I have a job and well we all know no job pays us what we really need to get by on what with rent and bills so it is a given that people might feel their things should be paid for, though thats not my opinion on my things, I have a hard enough time finding the time to actually play here lately.
Anyway, thats all I have to say, and thank you for letting me say it
anne
Inge Jones:
Quote from: miros1;845271
BTW, I just did a search on the Patent Office site... Neither EA nor Maxis has ever been awarded a patent on the DBPF format.
My memory is a bit vague on this, but I seem to remember a maxoid mentioning once right near the beginning of Sims 2 that something like it was unusual for a commercial game to send out so much of the software in an open format and benefit the custom creators in such a way. And I felt at the time there was this sort of veiled warning that it could change in the future.
I am very concerned that we shouldn't get in their hair so much they close things up for Sims 3. It's so much fun being able to poke around in the files so freely. I know they might make tools themselves but looking at bodyshop and homecrafter they are not likely to be as flexible as something like SimPE.
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