Promotion related problems causing serious difficulties with LTW
MissDoh:
I have to agree with you ancient, your hood sound beyond repair to me but at least we tried. And a fresh install should be uninstall everything and reinstall everything and then you patch the game and make the objects.package file a read-only one.
If your game is slow and you have many downloads it can explain why it is slow, maybe memories had nothing to do with that fact. Having many cc stuff can result in slowing the game a lot. I also have an old pc but have a good videocard, mods preventing unuseful memories to appear (among the other I have) and I have 1 gig of memory if I remember well.
The only cc stuff I have are mods/hacks, default Maxis replacement, make-up and clothes using Maxis meshes and my game runs fine. I do not use cc hair because most needs meshes which can slow a game a lot on an old pc if you have many, same with cc clothes or objects if they all need meshes.
ancienthighway:
That reminds me. If you do decide to uninstall, make sure you save your Downloads and SavedSims folder to your desktop or someplace else outside of the game's folders. Uninstall will just delete everything whether the installation put it there or not.
killertomatoes:
THANKS EVER SO MUCH GUYS(MISSDOH AND ANCIENTHIGHWAY) FOR THE NEVERENDING ENERGY, PATIENCE AND PURE GOODNESS YOU EXERTED IN HELPING ME.
Dear MissDoh you said...
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Normally characters files should appear under the characters folder in each hood. For example, the characters for neighborhood N001 should be in C;/mydocuments/eagames/thesims2/neighborhood/N001/characters folder. So I am truly puzzled of how come they are now in your download folder. It does not belong there at all.
I must have manually copied character files to Downloads while following someone's advice at the time. I don't remember what the problem was that lead me to do it. I have exact files under C;/mydocuments/eagames/thesims2/neighborhood/N003/characters folder as well. Here you go... yet another line of duplicates!!!
I mean I could always delete 'em from downloads folder. That'll be great !!! I'll have more room for items I wanted but hesitated to download.
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If your game is slow and you have many downloads it can explain why it is slow, maybe memories had nothing to do with that fact. Having many cc stuff can result in slowing the game a lot.
Yes I have zillion cc files. No my game is NOT slow due to my strict monitoring of files in my downloads. When I decide to dl a hefty file I make sure that I delete a less used/sacrificable one first so that I won't clutter the DL folder beyond 450MB. RATHER IT IS ME WHO IS SLOW.
By the way, for whatevers worth let me emphasize the fact that "got a promotion" icon is still in tact among list of memories and some of my sims retained memories of being promoted in their memory range dating back to the time prior to the mess I've made.
Unfortunately I cannot say when exactly this promotion related problems began cos since most of my favourite sims have already reached top of their careers (some even twice in different professions) and their ltws were not career-oriented. They're quite well off naturally from being played for so long thus they've taken time off work. Its only when I played a supporting character that I realised the problem with promotions. So I don't have a clue when it all started.
Incidentally now that you mentionned MissDoh, I doublechecked and yes no one in my neighborhood has an ltw of having 20 best friends. Not even those with popularity aspiration. I actually wouldn't care less cos while playing Sims 2, one of my main characters had popularity aspiration and I was exhausted to keep his relationships at best friend state while ensuring that he would still spare time for insatiable romance needs of his partner to keep her from sleeping with the entire male population in the neighborhood.
You see I should have dealt with these stated problems back then when I first encountered them. At least I would've had a better notion of what I'm talking about.
However, not only I didn't know about this great site but I did not get much conclusive feedback to my questions posted in Simpe's forum as well. (Moreover, I was too busy with my work that I had to give a long break . A year later whenever I had time and interest to play sims again, I picked up from where I left off.) So I played the game in such messed up state on and off for the last 6 months and had almost forgotten about these problems (cos my favorite characters have already achieved their ltws anyway and I only worry about those of secondary importance though I do not play them very often as they're merely supporting actors/actresses in the plot).
I didn't worry about these problems until I decided to give it a shot and post it here. Good job I did. Guess its better late to fix then never.
Now that I'm going to have to uninstall and reinstall the game...(I'm addressing following questions to both of you wonderful people: MissDoh and Ancienthighway...):
1) Ancienthighway...
In one of my earlier posts I inquired:
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First, I have to move my downloads folder somewhere else first and rename it(to be patched over the original downloads folder once installation is complete).
Then uninstall and re-install the game. (I dont even remember which patches I 'am using and where are they saved in the computer!!! Brrr!!). If I can locate exact files of current patches then I can save them under desktop or something , so that I don't have to search for them once again.
So after re-installing the game , I'll replace the downloads file with the current one (after renaming that file "downloads" again) and copy/paste patches I saved under desktop to whichever folder they were originally located. And you think this way I'll be able to fix the problem? Would censor removal and other nude patches still work like they're now? I mean what exactly I will lose within the process? ??
And in reply you so kindly advised...
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make sure you save your Downloads and SavedSims folder to your desktop or someplace else outside of the game's folders
Here it goes...
1) After copying downloads and SavedSims folders to my desktop I have to rename them so that they would'nt be confused with those that come with fresh installation. AND after installation is complete I have to rename them back to original and replace the original respective folders with these Right ?
2) Correct me if I'm wrong, so when I replace them with original ones after I reinstalled the game, I would have both my created sims and those born out of their relationships be still in tact? with present memories? OR not with present memories but with fresh memory? So what happens to those that are born in course. If created sims will have fresh memory then how do they will now about their kids and vice versa??? I could'nt figure out.
3) AND what about the lots. I spent excruciating hrs to decorate them. Can I move them to my desktop and replace the original folder with that after installation. Or no..I have to create them from scratch??? See I can't foresee possible consequences at all.
4) ALSO were would censor removal and nudemod hacks be saved other than downloads? I 'm asking this cos apparently I have plenty of nude mods enabling nudity in many aspects and they're all working brilliantly so far. I wouldn't wanna start shopping for new ones since I' have no recollection of which file (cluless about filename/creator/version) I got from where (site address) anymore.
ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU FOR EXTENDING YOUR HELPING HAND TO THIS POOR SOUL CRAWLING IN THE GALLOWS.:smile::smile::smile:
ancienthighway:
1. No need to rename the Downloads or SavedSims files after copying them to your Desktop. The uninstall process and game itself only recognize folders and content in the folder The Sims 2. After the reinstall you will have neither of those folders in The Sims 2, so just copy them there.
2. No current sims in your game will be saved. As you aren't copying the Neighborhoods, which are beyond repair, you won't have any of the bad sims or lots. You will be starting in fresh neighborhoods with PV, ST, and Verona set up as you originally saw them.
3. If you want to try to save some of the lots, from the neighborhood view export them. This will create a Sims2Pack file that you will need to install after your game has be reinstalled. To be sure you don't pick up any problems, make sure you move any families living in them out. Also remove all mods/hacks from the game before you pack the houses just to be safe. CC used for decorating can be left in game so it'll be packaged with the lot.
4. They should all be in the Downloads folder.
Of the three neighborhoods that come with the game, Pleasantview has the fewest problems with incomplete data in the townie sims. If you are interested in playing in the Pleasantview, Veronaville or Strangetown neighborhoods go to http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com. In the Peasantry section of the forum are some clean versions of all three of these neighborhoods, both with lots and no sims and with lots and fixed sims. The sims in these have the memory problems in the townies and default playables fixed already. Then with the no memory mods and FFS Debugger that MissDoh suggested, you can keep your sims memories under control.
killertomatoes:
Thanks for quick reply and your clear and straightforward explanations.
I have few more questions which I hope would be last on the subject for I feel I have taken so much of your valuable time and energy already.
Since I have no other alternative but to uninstall and reinstall only EP NL (Sims 2 remains in tact), do you think it will be a good idea to load the last Simpe backup I made (dated 03-08-06) first to see whether objects package file was still in tact then or not? Cos I don't remember.
If yes then...
Do I still have to uninstall/reinstall NL? Can't I just replace all files other than downloads and savedsims files with those saved under Simpe backup ? Would it work?
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, even if I reinstall the game and start fresh, I still would like to get rid of a long list of townies plus N001 and N002 before I start playing or even replacing downloads and saved sims folders. It is a cumbersome and excruciating process plus it takes days. However I'm patient when it comes to things that I'm certain I don't want. I want to know if there is a safer method of removing unwanted townies (dead and alive)?
In regard, thanks for your suggestions...
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Of the three neighborhoods that come with the game, Pleasantview has the fewest problems with incomplete data in the townie sims. If you are interested in playing in the Pleasantview, Veronaville or Strangetown neighborhoods go to http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com. In the Peasantry section of the forum are some clean versions of all three of these neighborhoods, both with lots and no sims and with lots and fixed sims
I' ll check 'em from MATY right away.
ALSO, you advised the following to save some of my lots
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If you want to try to save some of the lots, from the neighborhood view export them. This will create a Sims2Pack file that you will need to install after your game has be reinstalled. To be sure you don't pick up any problems, make sure you move any families living in them out. Also remove all mods/hacks from the game before you pack the houses just to be safe
By the same token, can I export some of my sims after say deleting their entire memory up to the starting point and make 'em sims 2package file. I will never be able to create the exact looks of those sims again. And they are the very reason that keeps me playing sims 2 in the first place.
THANX A BILLION
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