Promotion related problems causing serious difficulties with LTW
killertomatoes:
Last Simpe backup is dated 03-08-2006. Half of my sims in the current neighborhood have not been even born then!!
So what was the procedure in akin to uninstall/re-install again ? Since I'm soooo talented in messing up, I thought I should jot down what I know so that you can correct me if I'm on the wrong track again!
First, I have to move my downloads folder somewhere else first and rename it(to be patched over the original downloads folder once installation is complete).
Then uninstall and re-install the game. (I dont even remember which patches I 'am using and where are they saved in the computer!!! Brrr!!). If I can locate exact files of current patches then I can save them under desktop or something , so that I don't have to search for them once again.
So after re-installing the game , I'll replace the downloads file with the current one (after renaming that file "downloads" again) and copy/paste patches I saved under desktop to whichever folder they were originally located. And you think this way I'll be able to fix the problem? Would censor removal and other nude patches still work like they're now? I mean what exactly I will lose within the process? ??
Or as miros1 indicated, should I backup hood as it is w Simpe, delete the old backup and then uninstall and reinstall the game ? Would I be able to fix the problem and have everything in tact as in its current state ??
Am I making any sense at all ???
Or since I've been playing the game on and off for about a year now in its current corrupted state with no other problems other than the aforementionned should I keep on playing the way it is and forget about realising ltws of many sims? I mean would playing the game with such messed up objects file blow up in my face in future ?(would it get any worse than it already is?
Am I still making sense ???
Thank you for all your patience and support.
P.S. MissDoh , thank you for pointing out the lousy format of my posts. You're absolutely right. My writing looks like scribbling of a madman. I'll try to maintain my sanity in writing from now on:sad3::sad3::sad3:
MissDoh:
If you make a back-up of your already corrupted hood with Sim-Pe and use it after you reinstall the game it won't solve your problem. The missing memories you deleted already won't magically re-appear and you will be at the exact same place you are now.
By using an old back-up with which you did not change anything, the memories are as they were (ok some sims won't be in it but it is the price to pay)
So move your downloads folder, uninstall and then reinstall Nightlife. Install the patch that you can get here: The Sims 2 Nightlife CD Patch Start the game and enable cc in your game right away even if you did not have put your downloads folder back yet, it will save you from quitting it later.
Go in this folder c:/programfiles/eagames/thesims2nightlife/tsdata/res/objects folder and make the objects.package file a read-only type of file.
Quit the game, place back your downloads folder and your back-up in place. Start the game and it should be back as it was before you played with Sim-Pe.
Now use the ffs debugger and other tools you have in game to delete unuseful memories. I suggest again you install a few of Squinge mods like "no met subject" it works very good. It is safter to do this with those in-game tools then with sim-pe if you are not familiar with it.
May I asked what was the memories you wanted so much to delete in the first place?
killertomatoes:
I'm grateful for your comprehensive instructions. Thanks soooo much.
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May I asked what was the memories you wanted so much to delete in the first place?
You see that's what I've been trying to explain: I only deleted vermin, some of fire, some of burned food, i.e some met Victor (townie), became best friends with Victor sort of memories.
(I deleted some NPCs by finding out their ID no from their respective character folder and deleting that file from downloads (by the way, is it customary to keep all sims plus npcs files under My Documents/EA Games/Sims 2/Sims 2 Nightlife/Downloads folder?))
Since 2005 is ancient history for those who has major memory capacity issues like me, I can only guess. Possibly I must have deleted met i.e. Victor, became best friends with Victor memories cos I deleted that NPC. I must have reasoned that if I delete the sim I should delete others memories about him as well. NPCs I deleted were mostly dead relatives of Maxi's families like Goths.
I DID NOT DELETE GRIM REAPER OR MRS. CRUMPLEBOTTOM THAT I'M SURE.
Plus I deleted some of the family reunion memories. Oh! and in one case a family's twin babies got stuck in their crib and whomever tries to hold them were getting stuck and eventually dying. I couldn't figure out why at the time so I got their parents in hottub in a seperate room and removed the door of the room, so that they will not be able to rush to hold and feed their babies and let the social worker come and collect them. This was such a terrorising experience for them. So I decided to remove those babies from family tree and delete parents' memories of having them and social worker taking them away. Thats really it.
Since that time I made similar modifications on memories of many other sims and no additional problems occurred.
See thats the thing: I DO NOT THINK I CORRUPTED OBJECTS FILE WHILE DELETING SIM MEMORIES. I THINK I CORRUPTED OBJECTS FILE WHILE I WAS TRYING TO LOCATE MISSING SIMS AND IN COURSE OF MY ATTEMPTS OF FIXING THAT ERROR. You must know what I'm talking about right?
You open SIMPE and load neighborhood that you wish to modify. Once loaded in my case at the time 11 error windows popped up stating that there are 11 missing sims. So I consulted the Simpe's forum. I don't recall clearly so I really can't say but obviously I thought I was doing the right thing to fix those errors. Its all bleak to me now.
However on a separate note, in your earlier post you said:
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Thing is by placing the original one, I am not sure you will be able to patch the game again and have the new objects.package file coming with the patch
Now, I read the list of fixes of Nightlife patch from the link you given and I don't think I have patch cos my sims still experience some of the bugs listed there (i.e. memory of making out with themselves). Then I remember faintly about reading this list at the time I purchased and installed NL and reasoning that since majority of the bugs listed there were UNi related and as I do not have and don't intend to get Uni, I would get the patch if I needed in future.
So in order to make sure, I have to know under which folder will the patch be normally located.
In other words if I don't have the patch installed then I could copy objects file from installation cd right ?
If your answer is Yes ,
Then on a further note, granted that I could copy and replace the corrupted file with the original from installation cd, last month I deleted N001 and N002(pleasentville and strangetown) neighborhoods, would this cause a problem??
Never at ease in peace, I guess that's me!
I'M sooo slow and thick in the head that it is fretfully embarrassing to exploit my mental incapabilities like this
Thank you for bearing with me.
MissDoh:
Of course you can try at first to simply copy the objects.package from the cd and see what will happen. It might help but I doubt it will fix all your problems. The memories are corrupted for good and it would take a lot of patience to fix them all if at all possible. The objects.package might have got corrupted if a vampire bite Mrs. Crumplebottom for example. By making the objects.package file a read-only one it cannot be changed and for the game Mrs Crumplebottom is an object not a character file like the sims you make or townies and some of the NPC. The patch does prevent Mrs. Crumplebottom from getting bitten but I still suggest you make the objects.package file a read-only one after you install the patch out of precaution.
The patch is not located in a folder in perticular, what it does is replace many files (including the objects.package one) for new ones so you cannot locate it. If your game is not patch after all, I strongly suggest you do patch it. You will know if you patch it or not when you try to install it. If it tells you your game is already patch, then you will be using the wrong objects.package file going with the rest of the update and you will need to reinstall.
Normally characters files should appear under the characters folder in each hood. For example, the characters for neighborhood N001 should be in C;/mydocuments/eagames/thesims2/neighborhood/N001/characters folder. So I am truly puzzled of how come they are now in your download folder. :shock: It does not belong there at all.
I doubt the fact you deleted any of the original neighborhood caused that mess but I did read it was safer to at least leave the N001 (Pleasantview) in. What I am thinking is in the process of deleting NPC and their memories, you forgot to delete the memories of all the sims that met those NPC and/or townies wich cause the lines in the bubble problem. Deleting best friends memories can result in your sims having problems reaching some ltw like the 20 best friends for example.
You can use Squinge mod to at least prevent sims from having "met subject" memories. It can be found here: no more met subject memories He also have a hack paint permitting you to delete many memories though you can already do this with the ffs debugger to whicch I gave you a link too earlier. That last tool is a great debugging tool and there are many ingame problems that can be fix using it.
Maybe it is simply time to think of a fresh start and having your sims have new adventure. I know it sounds awful but it can be fun too to reset the game and start over again.
Sorry for the many edits, I kept thinking of new stuff to add. :tongue:
ancienthighway:
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Maybe it is simply time to think of a fresh start and having your sims have new adventure. I know it sounds awful but it can be fun too to reset the game and start over again.
For what it's worth, I have to agree with this statement. While I haven't added anything in either this discussion or the first one you posted, I have been following them. I believe your game, not just the neighborhood, is borked beyond repair. You may be at the point that making one repair adds 3 more errors. You'd spend so much time trying to fix everything that if you ever did get the game back to a playable condition, you'd have lost track of what it is you wanted to do in the game.
Start fresh with a complete uninstall/reinstall. Having learned what you've learned in your current game will make the next iteration that much better.
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