Insimenator.org

Hey everybody!  :D

I have a question: Could you be so kind to inform me, if there will be the possibility to create a new version of the InSiminator Mod like the old one for Sims 2??  :confused:

I love this Mod and without this the game will not be the same like usually.  :'(

Please forgive my mistakes if the sentences aren't correct built  1headwall.....but english isn't my mother language.... ;)

Best regards  1fanku
Lady Eve

Probably not. It's Eric's mod and we're just hosting it, not supporting it.

I too have used this mod for years and will truly miss it in sim3. I've looked at it,s construction in simPE and as would be expected, it draws on a ton of different elements in the game. All through it,s beyond me time wise to construct a similar mod, hopefully someone will after the sims3 release give the community a similar mod.   

From what I have seen and experienced with the Sims 2 creators and modifiers, I expect we can begin to see CC start to show up shortly after the release of TS3. There are many individual mods that do the same thing as different IS functions, it is just that IS and Sim Blender combine a lot of mods into one download. Very convenient. Somebody may well do something like that for TS3 because that is the nature of modders, they can't resist.

I hope someone creates this mod. I'm not going to buy the game until this mod is made.

Like I said, I don't think anyone is going to be doing the insimenator mod for sims 3. It's Eric's mod and since he's not a part of this community any longer, we only host it. We don't support it. If you want to buy the sims 3, buy it. Don't let the existance of a mod decide it for you, because you may be in for a very long wait.

If anything Inteen might be made for it? its being picked up by other modders over there, they seem quite keen to update hence apartment life, so you may be lucky for that one, but depends on how sims 3 is amde I asuppose.

according to various blogs I've seen around EA are trying to make it so that CC is a no-no in sims 3. I've also seen a couple of places stating that they're expecting the community to work wonders and make mods and stuff and because we're so good they are going to, but who knows what's possible till we actually get the game.

As Joy has stated, there will not be an insimenator for the Sims 3, there's nothing to say, though, that there won't be a simblender or something like it, but it won't be done by Eric!

inteen - gawd knows, I've never used it nor have I had any interest in using it as it seems to conflict with so much stuff, but the site you need to keep an eye on for it is simbology, just like for the blender.

I just hope that someone can do stuff for it like remove the censor blur ;)

I'm with you Ali, The censor blur has to be worked on right away. I thought that I could play cc-free until sims3 came out. (bought a new computer 01-15-2009 and reloaded games) but after about 5 minutes...screw it. Downloads folder is only up to 1 G though. ;D.  After the new wears off TS3, I am going to have to have some cc goodness.

I live and breathe CC I would be really upset if it became a (and I quote) "No-no". I feel it just seems too mundayne without it. I know sims is meant to be a real-life simulator, but I still find CC enhancements make it much more fun to play. That is just my opinion though.

i love the insimenator you can have so much fun but i didn't even know custom stuff existed until about 6 months ago when i did a random internet search on the sims 2
i will probably be able to cope without custom stuff for a while until thge novelty wears off then it'll be download download download although i'm getting a bit ahead of myself as i don't even know if my laptop has the right system to house the system requirements of the sims 3 so i might not even get it but i am hoping 1rock

I love insiminator and similar stuff. If sims 3 will be 'kid friendly' obligatory, no fun. SimPE and insiminator or simblender are a MUST. And some sexyness. If they try to erase all the fun stuff ill stick to sims 2. *sighs*

It might not be called the Insimenator, but SOMETHING like it would exist...IF it were possible at all. Available evidence strongly suggests it won't be. Also, you can haz SecuROM-based spyware.

it's been along time for me  playing the sims 2 wit the insimenator, Well I've played the sims 2 wit out the insim machine, cuz I alwayz use cheats and a mood hack. Well when the sims 3 comes, I'm pretty sure someone will make a machine alot like that hack.
look out sims 3, here I come baby!!!

Point blank and period, if there's no CC, I ain't buyin' it. Being able to make my own stuff is the sole reason I play TS2. If I can't in TS3, I'll stick to TS2.

On topic: Like Pescado said, more then likely someone will eventually make some sort of mod similar to the Insimenator down the road. But don't hold your breathe. It'll take cracking the initial code of the game to make, and seeing as EA is potentially going to be stingy with said code, it might not be for at least a year or more before you see such a mod.

Based on the information available, an Insimenator-type mod is looking like it will be extremely unlikely or impossible in TS3, so I wouldn't get too excited.

Pescado, at the risk of sounding foolish, have you got any specifics as to what the Sims 3 will have as limits that have not been made public in any forum so far?
Or any "secret" information you've been made aware of? Inquiring Simmers want to know!
We're so used to your ability to break things and put them together better that for you to tell us this is a hint that the game is going to be virtually impossible to mod for at all, even at your level of expertise.
Or is this just one of those "difficult is easy-impossible takes a little longer" things?

Seems to me the mountain can't be moved in this instance.

All the inside sources indicate that EAxis has seriously cracked down on the actual moddability of the game. While surface-level texture replacement and remeshing will easily be possible, making actual SERIOUS modifications is looking considerably more crippled. The kind of easy stuff that we have gotten used to in TS2 simply will not be possible in TS3. It are a fact. I know because of my learnings.

So you are saying that we can kiss the adult mods goodbye?

Depending on what you define as "Adult mods", quite possibly.

This is not a good thing-the very fact that a major portion of Sims 2 players are adults, and fully capable of doing some very strange things in their games, does not seem to register with EAxis-and they're going to pay a huge price.
I'd be willing to bet that 2/3's of all players are over 21, and mostly are not playing a "vanilla" game-such as myself, ahem.
They've just screwed the pooch for sure. Game over, EAxis. You've lost. We're done playing your game.

ooowee i think EAxis just totally committed finiancal suicide however you spell it.



boy is EAxis gonna pay for this. :-\

Don't believe that for a second.  People will still buy it.  They will bitch about it, but they will buy it.  And then go back to TS2, but EA's got their money already.

i believe it cause EAxis really is that stupid and arrogant plus the vast majority of simmers are adults maybe kids will buy it but not some of us adults and alot of us won't buy it cause of that evil suckurom. :(



in other words keep that evil piece of garbage of a game away from my computer thank you very much. :-\


just speaking my opinion that's all. ;D


i'm a sims 2 fan and player for life and that is how it always will be sims 2 for life i say. ;D

Two parts. 1 The basics, blur remover and default replacement body skins'

                2 More advanced,the hunter type animations.

The animations one can live without but removing the blur and replacing those silly barbie skins is for me essential.

They say money can't buy happiness.  It can, however, buy arrogance and stupidity...
I've never been excited by Sims 3 because of past experience with loving a certain iteration of a game and not liking the next version.  I don't really see any way that I would buy 3 until well after its release and possibly after an expansion or 3.  If they were smart, they would put in parental controls or have an adult themed expansion.  We all know how smart large corporations are, though...

P.S.  I wonder if years down the road I'll still be playing Sims 2 [after Sims 4 has come and gone] like I do with Civilization II

i know i'll still be playing it when sims 4 will come out there is no way i'll buy anymore sims games i know when i first read it i was not gonna buy it. it just did'nt excite me at all. :(



you did make a good point there vampyrmuffinman and nicely said. ;D :D

Does that mean we'll have to live with all EA's bugs they never bother to fix?

Nah, they'll have a patch out in, oh... six months.

And a few months later a patch to fix what the first patch borked.  1DOH And on and on and on.............

I think EAxis are going to have to realise that there are many adults that play the Sims, & if they don't do it straight away they may create an "adult" version of Sims 3, but given the puritanism of Americans, it'll be as adult as a wet blanket !

You would think that the marketing execs would get it that violence and sex sell...  There's not much in the way of violence in the game (though that would be highly cool...), there has to be sex for the game to really sell [to adults].  Now, these aren't the only things, but they are a large part of why games sell.  On that note, I don't think it would be plausible to create an adult version, but they could certainly add some more adult clothing and interactions in an expansion.  I'm still waiting to here for sure if there will be same sex relations possible in Sims 3.  If not, then I will not buy it until that's hacked.  Damn.  Now I have the idea of my Sims going on dungeon craws stuck in my head...

In all reality, EA has to be aware of the ratings that the game must have in order to sell it to the 12's. The teen rating is the one they always aim for, but I've read where some more "clued-in" people think that it will not have any sex besides that of sanctioned EA sex-"woohoo", which is pretty dull, and it won't be moddable for anything beyond that.
It's quite probable that the execs at EA found those other mods that are available for Sims 2 to be offensive and they're locking the modding down to prevent it.
Of course they're cutting their own throats in doing so-because as you mentioned, sex sells.
Jack Thompson did a number on EA, and they don't forget that. The fact that he's no longer a power to contend with doesn't matter. The damage has already been done.

MaryH i could've said it better myself nicely said. ;D :D

Okay, my brother works for Activision and we have talked about the hell that is getting the ratings board to approve your game. After the Coffee Cup mod problem in GTA, it got even tighter and more problematic. He has informed me that almost no game can get through the approval process the first time and it is a process that can take weeks. Also, remember that the game will be sold internationally and what might fly in France will not cut it in Dubai. I do not expect any kind of sex in Sims, I even prefer that it not have that, so that when the four year old walks in I don't have to explain the Kama Sutra to her. LOL  I have mods for that which I can turn on and off so that I don't get in trouble with her mother. :) Sims is meant to be a Teen rated game which means more players and more profits for EA. I am not complaining about that at all. I just want my modding community to be able to give me options for adult play if I feel like it. EA is so NOT my porn provider, they wouldn't do it well anyway! ROFL!

The fact that he was ever a power to contend with would be funny if it weren't depressing. I could go on my American Culture rant, but it's three pages long.


I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it had been banned here and there for allowing homosexuality.

 2gah  OOO   :( I hope your wrong  kaoz666 "sobs"

Just to comment on page 1, It doesnt matter if CC is a no-no, its going to be hacked to allow it anyway.

No inteen or a similar type insimenenator then no Sims 3 for me.

I have my own theories on all this adult content stuff. This is going to open a can of worms but here goes.
Those that can still remember the heady days of the late 60s and early 70s when anything goes in the cinemas was the norm will also recall another phenomena, women's lib, that matured into the feminist movement and really became a force to be reckoned with so much so that governments began to bend to their demands, eg. beauty pageant's, miss world miss universe etc were all deemed to be degrading and exploited women and so on. In the mid to late 70s a lot of these same women began to get elected into various governments, coincidentally at about this time the movies began to regress as far as sex as nudity went. Mind you this is only my theory, what actually started this was my awareness of certain Japanese games in which anything goes and that in Japan women play a largely subservient role, and there are very few women in government and those that are, are only there to show the rest of the world that they are not really sexist.
As I said this is only my theory and is in no way meant to put women down but is food for thought.

hmmm, roerzman, I'm wondering exactly what your theory is?
 
That now the 60s feminists are in government we therefore have a more sexually judgemental society? Whereas, in Japan, where the men are in charge, perversity runs wild?

Well, I can't speak for Japan. But as for what we'd have to call 'the West', I think there's more to it.

Firstly, I'd question the amount of control that governments wield in regard to societal atitudes towards sex and its representation in movies and videogames. Then I'd ask how many of the female politicians we have cracking the whip today actually are genuine feminists, or indeed whether any of them are the same sorts of feminist. There are feminists today who believe that the 'free love' of the 60s etc. was a regressive entrapment of women, and then there are those who make feminist porn. I'd also question whether there is less sex and nudity in popular culture today - quite the opposite I suspect. Certainly as far as taboos go I wonder how many are yet to be broken in one cultural strand or another.

I suppose I'd venture the (hardly groundbreaking) conclusion that cycles in societal attitudes towards anything are inevitable and generational reaction a norm. People harp on about political correctness but I wonder whether any society has freed its citizens from the need to conform and whether current societies put any more pressure on people than previous ones. I do think that we've reached a fairly libertarian stage where what people actually say about things doesn't match what they do behind closed doors - not that this is always a bad thing. And that there were probably enthusiastic and reluctant women participants in the 'free love' movement just as there were doubtless benign and exploitative men.

And regarding CC in the sims 3???!!!!!

Well, frankly, I'll be p**ed if there isn't any. The minute I discovered insimenator for Sims 2 I was getting up to all sorts of mischief. The prospect of doing it again with even smoother polygons?? Please let it happen!

This political correctness and currant social attitudes is a minority desire on how society should conduct itself, gone are the days of mass protest as in the anti Vietnam war movement for social or political change, we now have a more covert way of imposing change and it's done by individuals getting elected to office with a less than transparent agenda.
This desires to impose their values on the rest of society soon comes to light when for example in the event of a bill getting voted on, the trade offs begin. It's the old you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours scenario.
The danger begins when the minority has the ways and means to impose their values on how the rest of society should conduct on the majority. All this is possible by being in a position to influence the elected governments.
History gives a clear lesson there with the rise to power of Hitler, something he would never have achieved if ALL his policies were on the table so to speak. Just how many Germans would have voted for that man if he had told them that once in power "I'm going to kill your children if they're not perfect and also any one with Jewish or Slavic ancestry" ?
Imagine the ramifications of Jack Thompson being elected to office. Well there a lot of Jack Thompsons in governments in the English speaking world both male and female, they got there because they were smart enough to keep their mouths shut and are now able because of the political systems to impose their values.
I don't have a crystal ball so I can only assume that some of the women that were involved in the noble and just women's rights campaigns of previous decades have taken it one step further and are now in a position to impose their outlook on so called female exploitation on the main stream of society, for example this hogwash of not having a chairman anymore just a chair and all the other gender specific titles that have disappeared are just examples of an individuals desire very quietly becoming law.
My theory is that the majority does not and never has ruled, it has always has been the silent minority that call the shots. That is why in the media and games you will always have what they deem appropriate and not what you think is.
Also governments can whip up the population if it so chooses for social change, this was apparent during the civil rights campaigns of the early 60s. Those that still think it was all about some sense of justice or righting a wrong should exercise some lateral thinking. At that time Cuba, China and other Soviet clients were making big diplomatic inroads into Africa and the poor old US. diplomats were promptly shown the door when they tried the same, it's not as if the dismal racist policies of the US. and southern  states were a secret. Because of the political support system that exists in government laws to end the appalling racisism that existed did not have a hope in hell of passing, so in order to make US. policy more palatable a social uprising had to be engineered and supported to make it appear to the world and southern states and their elected representatives that it was society and not the government that wanted change and as it grew just about anyone who was anybody jumped on that bandwagon.Ironic how just a few decades earlier Elanor Roosevelt attempted to influence her husband to outlaw lynchings. (no cold war then)
And yes governments if they want the support of a minority can engineer social thinking, now days it's done via the mass media, not masses on the streets.
 

If I'm reading this right, white heterosexual men have never repressed the rights of any minority based on race creed, color, religion, sex, etc.  I only imagined the discrimination I received because I was in a mixed marriage, and my children have never experienced it either because they weren't pure.

Thank you for setting the record straight.

OK, this stops right now

quite how this turned from "will there be an insimenator mod for sims 3" to political bullshit, I don't know but no more. You want to discuss politics that's fine but go and do it in the General Discussion area and keep it friendly and flame free

how come there won't be a insimenator for the sims 3?

I think it is because the man who created and maintained Insimenator for Sims 2 is no longer around. Hence, the Sims 2 Insimenator mod was unsupported now.

It's not hard to play Sims 2 without the Insimenator. TJ (TwoJeffs) has a version that works much better and is more reliable called Sim Blender, which is an ongoing project for him as an answer to a number of requests made at his site, Simbology (http://www.simbology.com).

As far as I know, the InSIM mod for Sims 3 will appear when Hell freezes over, the Law of Gravity is repealed and Pescado says he loves each and every one of us for our inspiring individuality.

Not to break any hearts.

I don't think we'll see a lot of the same mods for 3.

I wouldn't hold my breath when it comes inteen, I mean they're still working on a newer Inteen for 2.  And TJ seems to be totally occupied working on ACR 2.0 for 2.

Warlokk is retired I believe, so I don't think we'll see the really detailed body shapes for 3.

Chris Hatch and Joker have been making some great stuff for 2, not sure if they're jumping to 3 anytime soon.

Hunter I believe is pretty much retired from modding, but maybe he'll come back for 3, who knows.

There's a lot of clothing designers for 2, but when it came to custom animations and the really complex mods, very few really did anything solid.  So if those few don't move to three, ugh.

At the moment an Insim-style mod for TS3 is not looking likely. We're certainly looking into the practice, but seems EAxis has encrypted the files against it.

I did read your comments about the file types and methods they used to pack the game with. So, will there be a time down the road that we can have a program like SimPE to crack Sims 3 with?

As far as I understood the more informed members, it will be closed source. Meaning that modding would be indeed legally impossible.

(Okay, I'm going to probably get hung for this but it needs to be said)

Technically, we don't really need custom clothing (we can just re-colour them to our own individual tastes). Technically, we don't really need custom clothing or hair (again, we can just re-colour them. We probably need new hairstyles, but not hair-colours). All I can see that we really need are mods, and even then we probably won't be able to get them.

I for one don't mind playing a "vanilla" game, because unlike TS2, TS3 lets you be an individual with all of the stuff you can re-colour. (hell, even the f--king mailbox! Now it can be something besides plain white! YES~)

Actually, for Sims 3 all you need is a decent playable game that doesn't come with a metric f*** ton of bugs/glitches and our dearly hated SecuROM. All you need for Sims 3 is something that is better than what the company has provided. Good luck, I'm staying behind with my Sims 2, which has been made playable by people like Pescado and Squinge. Have fun with your $80.00 - $90.00 set of drink coasters!

my laptop broke so i cant get it until i have a new laptop in a few months time but if (and i cant believe im saying this) its a disappointment then i will stand proud with my sims 2 and all its custom content but as it has been said the llikely hood is that there will be tonnes of cc for ts3 and meshes galore almost as soon as its realease its inevitable that people will make it and post it and that people will download it
so have fun all you who have it already and good luck to all you trying to get it 3yay

I remember people saying the same thing with Sims 2. While it might not be Insimenator, there will be a mod quite like it . . . if not better.

Patience.  The mods are coming. Yes, all of them.

Wolfe

Maybe. IF the company says we can because if not, they will have to go underground and be shared in secret. Don't tell me that they wouldn't do that, either because this is EA Games, the idiots that brought us SecuROM and more bugs in the game than a butterfly collector could shake a stick at.

There's a few good mods that have been made already.  Nothing like the InSiminator, but the game hasn't been out for long.  I'm not sure if the mods created will have to be kept secret.  There's a lot of sites that have links to the mods, and EA could probably find them all within 5-10 minutes.  Even if EA isn't supporting mods being created it doesn't look like they're doing anything to stop it.

You aren't paying attention to the meaning of my words: IF EA Games definitely states that making mods is against the EULA and is in fact, illegal, then such things will have to go underground should they decide that they wish to prosecute the people making them.

Y'know, thats one thing I cant understand at all.

The sex animations I can KINDA understand despite much grumbling and annoyance and wanting to chuck bricks at EA. But the Insiminator is HARDLY a bad thing.

If anything it gives direct control to the player, and makes the game more fun because, at least for me, it takes away petty annoyances. Makes managing Sims in large numbers much easier. Makes getting around bugs and issues that were never fixed a sinch.

Hell, I dont have to even take my Sims to those god awful boring stores to get them clothing. I can just purchase them clothing at their homes, suit em up. And get back to playing my game my way.

So, yeah, I dont get why they are so against all mods. I mean, if they dont want people making the stuff, they should just make the game right in the first place instead of leaving it full of bugs and crap to begin with. And of course, listen to their customers. Which would lead to making MORE MONEY.

Seriously, whatever happened to the customer is always right?. I mean a happy customer is a loyal customer, and will always come back to buy more.

Pssh..Now that I think about it, they should take a lesson from Sims 2 Open For Business.

Maybe they're biding their time. It wouldn't be the first company and not the first time this happens - but then they come down with a vengeance to set an example. Right now they're busy patting themselves on the shoulders, but I'm pretty sure their legal departments are already weighing their options.

sorry...but they have no legal recourse.

the only legal recourse would be if someone made mods for a profit. 

Thing is, the man that made the original mod turned out to be a skuzz bag along with his wife. It's offered here but not supported. We have the name because when we revolted against Walt, the people of this community stood behind us and supported us the whole way, they didn't want to see this site and the people in it being used to make money. We, as a whole, are the community of that former website and as such, have the right to use the name because without us, those people were up crap creek without a paddle, canoe or even the damn creek.

More than anyone, the people that donated to keep that site running back then have bought the damn name, because they gave over and above what was needed to keep them running. Plenty of them are still here, still members of this community. Thing is, there won't be an "InSIM" mod made for the new game because no one on this staff wishes to use that name for it, more than likely. For many of us, that name is tainted because of the scam that got pulled.

There could be a similar package of mods that come out for the new game, but it more than likely won't bear the name. That was used for the Sims 2 game, not Sims 3. These days, the name InSimenator refers to the community that inhabits this site. So, that being said, thread closed, thank you for participating.

Edited so many times because that damn typo demon is chasing me again, make it stop!!  :D