Paysite Discussion Thread
BeosBoxBoy:
To be candid, I could not care less what "EA says", I can hire lawyers and they will "say" whatever I want them to say too. The constant reliance on what "EA says" is not a valid argument, any more than hearing only one side of any argument.
If you choose to be biased, then there is no discussion, only the brute force of your will upon another. Might doesn't make right. Simply because EA wishes it to be so, doesn't make it fact.
Inge, I full well understand what you mean when you say:
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the community is in a far sorrier state now with site-hackings, guestbook trolling, mistrust and bitching than it ever was before this free content activism started
it is, this whole matter has erupted like a cancer in the heart of this community. I have watched this same sad argument for more years than I ever thought it would endure, and every turn of the screw has been to the detriment of this community. I am every bit as sick of this division and contention.
I would prefer it have no home on any site I am affiliated with.
Captain_Shepard:
EA doesn't care much on paysites. If they did then the situation would be more controlled.
But since the internet is huge and there are thousands of paysites its hard to take action agaisn't all.
Inge Jones:
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EA doesn't care much on paysites. If they did then the situation would be more controlled.
But since the internet is huge and there are thousands of paysites its hard to take action agaisn't all.
So far they haven't even bothered to put one notice on their site confirming their disapproval. And they have them in their fansite list too.
EA are probably just regarding the whole thing as an extension of the game. A game about a game, as I am fond of saying. That's what I think some of the supporters of the filesharing sites feel too - they're having so much fun dressing up as pirates they'd be devastated if all the paysites became free sites and they lost their reason to do it.
Inge Jones:
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If thats how you feel Inge..
Your site and attitude was a nice change from others, you created postive change and supported free sites which needed to be done. I strongly hope that you take a break from things and come back to FFFS. :)
Thanks for saying that, but I am afraid there is no Federation any more.
PegasusDiana:
I think these points are mute now. I wrote a letter the other day about EA, questioning their taking of free CC from the community, community ideas and basically doing the same thing. Selling CC for their own profits. Then I was told it was a hypothetical situation so I called to clarify what I had written.
From my conversation, it looks like SPORE is being delayed because it was supposed to be like SIMS and you could make CC, but because of what's happened with Paysites that won't be happening. Or if so it will come with much stricter guidelines. Nor does it look like SIMS 3 will be coming with the possibility of adding CC with the way it is now. It too will either come with much stricter guidelines or one possibility is it will come with licensing agreements to reputable companies looking to get ahead that can be of benefit to both parties. Not forums or websites. IE the company is dividing into sections to see this happens for quality control.
I never knew some of these websites that host donations, subscriptions were being accused by companies and designers of stealing their work. (This one is for freesite and paysites) Some designers have apparently been complaining their clothing, their logos that are trademarked work are being taken and used as CC without permission. Examples: The GAP, Amercrombie and Fitch, McDonalds, etc...which most probably wouldn't have minded, and probably would have linked to the work, but it was done without permission.
Accused of keeping stuff posted on their sites and refusing to remove it when the creator and website split apart. Accused of making a profit off free content creators by stealing their work to sell. Having a lot of disputes with credit card companies.
Something I laughed about, then had to apologize because several of us also found this but haven't said anything. Some are taking object files from websites that distribute their work for free to the 3d community, and wish it to remain free to the whole 3d community. Well several have been making it work for the sims, claiming the work and selling it. Sorry I can't post a phone call, but any of you are welcome to call and speak with EA legal or corporate to voice your own opinion or just talk with them, very friendly people.
Just something that was said to me: There are over 20 million world wide that play the sims, probably less than 5 million go looking for CC. Most are content to play with what they have. And since most of those 5 million "supposedly" already purchase CC then they won't mind purchasing it from EA or one of their affiliates right?
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